Unknown One
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Majority of Republican voters being idiots is not news. It's a long accepted fact.
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PPP poll: 55% of Republican voters still don't believe Don Jr. met with Russians
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foxuzamaki
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Yea, this is what in starting to think now aswell
forgeforsaken
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They are ignoring it to talk about Unmasking again.
TetraGenesis
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Not surprising any more. These people are not even listening to content of the question. It's mostly noise to them. The process looks like this:
Step 1: Listen to question with half an ear. Example: Blah blah blah Trump blah blah Russians blah blah.
Step 2: Expend minimal amount of mental resources to determine whether "Yes" or "No" is the pro-Trump answer.
Step 3: Give pro-Trump answer.
Facts don't matter. They're not even considered. Their answer to everything is "whatever is pro-Trump". Even the rest of the GOP, or Fox News can become "bad" instantly if they're not in line with Trump. And they have, on occasion.
And this is why Trump is completely safe from impeachment until/unless the makeup of Congress changes significantly.
They're not idiots, and it's dangerous to think so. They're no smarter or dumber than anyone else, as a whole. There are some statistics that bear this out, if you care to search for them. What they are is willfully ignorant. A person can be a genius and still almost magically believe stupid things in the face of overwhelming evidence that they aren't true.
Step 1: Listen to question with half an ear. Example: Blah blah blah Trump blah blah Russians blah blah.
Step 2: Expend minimal amount of mental resources to determine whether "Yes" or "No" is the pro-Trump answer.
Step 3: Give pro-Trump answer.
Facts don't matter. They're not even considered. Their answer to everything is "whatever is pro-Trump". Even the rest of the GOP, or Fox News can become "bad" instantly if they're not in line with Trump. And they have, on occasion.
And this is why Trump is completely safe from impeachment until/unless the makeup of Congress changes significantly.
They're not idiots, and it's dangerous to think so. They're no smarter or dumber than anyone else, as a whole. There are some statistics that bear this out, if you care to search for them. What they are is willfully ignorant. A person can be a genius and still almost magically believe stupid things in the face of overwhelming evidence that they aren't true.
Master Yoshi
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Literal children covering their ears to ignore facts that don't align with their viewpoints.
GrizzleBoy
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Yep, sounds like old senile people who watch nothing but fox news all day to me.
This is why democracy sucks as much as it is necessary.
This is why democracy sucks as much as it is necessary.
Stilton Disco
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People have had decades now of being lied to and told to ignore experts and facts.
It's the horrifying realisation of Orwellian double think no one believed could happen, but turned out to be even more insipid and pervasive than fiction feared.
It's the horrifying realisation of Orwellian double think no one believed could happen, but turned out to be even more insipid and pervasive than fiction feared.
The Christian Right doesn't need your crocodile tears. They own every branch of the federal government.
ArkhamFantasy
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Fox News acknowledges the meeting took place, they even had Jr on Hannity admitting to it and talking about it.
If republicans see bad news they just pretend its not real.
Sensational reporting is sensational. Don't react to the results until you've read the details. Thanks, Hubbl3!
Dude Abides
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What? Why do you think that means the reporting is sensational?
Please don't be one of those people who don't understand how statistical sampling works.
Vicetrailia
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Yeah, internet polling isn't representative of the population, especially if voluntary.
That said Republicans aren't the brightest these days.
That said Republicans aren't the brightest these days.
StopMakingSense
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That's an acceptable sample size.
80% of the 836 people (about 669 people) were on what PPP called a "list-based sample" responded to the poll via a landline phone. What group of people still own a landline phone and respond to it? More likely than not it's senior citizens.
20% of the 836 people (about 167 people) responded over the Internet through an "opt-in Internet panel."
Let's just say that the polling was targeting a very specific group of people.
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So they are calling Donald Trump Jr. a liar...
Not that I think he will, but who and who's army would stop him? The constitution is only words. Just like fiat money, it only has power and value as long as people believe it does. You don't think countries with despotic leaders have de jure separation of powers and free press?
AstroNut325
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So statistically speaking, at least a few of the people that post here believe that Don Jr. didn't meet the Russians. Anyone care to chime in?
The United States is beyond saving. You got a president that's clearly fucking the country in the ass and a good chunk of the country's population still want him in office.
DrROBschiz
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considering his support base is shrinking what do these percentages even mean by volume?
are we talking 55% of everyone who voted for him?
Im sick of the blinders either way. People that are still back this fucking criminal are fuck wads
are we talking 55% of everyone who voted for him?
Im sick of the blinders either way. People that are still back this fucking criminal are fuck wads
Byakuya769
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55% of republicans pose an absolute threat to American Democracy.
A good chunk of this country is racist and would vote for anyone they perceive as damaging to minorities. Can only hope that the demographics change enough in the years to come that these worthless fucks lose the power to hold sway over the rest of the country. But that's so very long to wait.
Are these the same polls that said hilary would win.
DrROBschiz
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The extremists will never change but maybe the confused young voters and those that are now disenchanted with Trump both in the middle and on the right will maybe come forward and do the right thing in 2018
Though im not expecting much right now. Lack of faith in our populance is at an all time high for me
SolarPowered
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Congratulations
You've got several tens of millions of people who've decided to just shut their higher brain functions off entirely. Feels like US democracy is currently on IV drip at the very least.
You've got several tens of millions of people who've decided to just shut their higher brain functions off entirely. Feels like US democracy is currently on IV drip at the very least.
KillerMan91
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Yeah. For example high level Nazis had rather high IQ and yet were totally insane.
I don't understand why anyone is shocked or confused by this. The people who say they don't believe he had the meeting aren't getting their news from news outlets. They are getting their news from facebook groups and AM radio. They won't believe anything that doesn't fit the position of "The Russia thing is a witch hunt".
If you want these people to wake the fuck up you have to take away their ability to hear what they want to hear. And good luck with that. The first amendment is a powerful tool.
If you want these people to wake the fuck up you have to take away their ability to hear what they want to hear. And good luck with that. The first amendment is a powerful tool.
PlayALLtheGames
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That's not just a polarization in politics, it's a polarization in the fundamental understanding and view of the world and reality.
DrROBschiz
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Like I dont get it
Even when his Son just lays out the truth in the open personally.... they are still hypnotized
They want the world that Trump promised so badly... that they have slipped into that fantasy and are ignoring reality
Are these trump supporters really that desperate that they worked themselves into psychosis?
Like what the fuck... I hope they numbers are dwindling but based on the people that are distancing themselves from Trump they still hold all the horrible views they have always held
Even when his Son just lays out the truth in the open personally.... they are still hypnotized
They want the world that Trump promised so badly... that they have slipped into that fantasy and are ignoring reality
Are these trump supporters really that desperate that they worked themselves into psychosis?
Like what the fuck... I hope they numbers are dwindling but based on the people that are distancing themselves from Trump they still hold all the horrible views they have always held
You think this is the first time PPP ever ran a poll? You think they just ignored the most obvious pitfalls to sampling?
When they call people on a land line, they aren't just randomly dialing people from the set of all landline owners. You can easily prune the set of all landline owners down to be more representative of national demographics, and then randomly select from that set.
PHOENIXZERO
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Considering how many still believe Obama was born in Kenya and/or a Muslim that number doesn't surprise me.
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