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Pragmata Demo Switch 2 vs Base PS5 Graphics Comparison + FPS Test
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Just finished trying the demo, first on Series X and then Switch 2 (docked).
Switch 2 is seriously impressive. Apart from Diana's hair and visibly lower resolution, the frame rate is solid and you ain't missing anything during the action. No vaseline effect on a 4K TV, and one can happily live without the better lighting and reflections.
Not saying that you shouldn't go for the better version if you can, but hey, these internet comparisons are really a nothing burger once you've played the actual games. Now if every dev put in the same effort as Capcom...
Switch 2 is seriously impressive. Apart from Diana's hair and visibly lower resolution, the frame rate is solid and you ain't missing anything during the action. No vaseline effect on a 4K TV, and one can happily live without the better lighting and reflections.
Not saying that you shouldn't go for the better version if you can, but hey, these internet comparisons are really a nothing burger once you've played the actual games. Now if every dev put in the same effort as Capcom...
Danjin44
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I dont know what people are complaining about, the game looks good even on Switch 2.
The fact is Switch 2 is not as strong as PS5 or PC so yeah there are going to be visuals sacrifices but what Capcom managed to pull off is god damn impressive.
The fact is Switch 2 is not as strong as PS5 or PC so yeah there are going to be visuals sacrifices but what Capcom managed to pull off is god damn impressive.
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kazuyamishima
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Damn, this bodes well for the PS6 Portable.
Exciting results
Exciting results
saintjules
Gold Member
Yeah mods made a comment about it some time back, but people keep posting this channel's content on here.
These threads always derail with fanboys saying how shit games look on SW2 when they even better than we expect, lol.
I tried the demo on my PS5 Pro and SW2 and will be getting the SW2 version because of portability. I won't be detailing the girls hair for 20hrs
andreacusi
Neo Member
At what resolution is the game running on Switch 2 - Handled ?
Boy bawang
Member
Game looks and run great on Switch 2, impressive stuff. But I play split joy cons and these morons mapped the gyro aiming to the left joycon, which makes it unplayable for me.
David_Android
Neo Member
not at all i would simply watch a video of my platform with the game i want to see how it performs, not stupid comparisons from complete diefferent devices. there is absolutely nothing to gain from that.
If it looks better on Ps5 which obviously it does, why should i compare that to a switch 2 that i dont even own? A handheld device that is heavily power limited by design. i personally just dont get it. but im just asking nothing more no bad blood or anything.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
The answer is easy……"my plastic box is better than your plastic box" that's all it comes down to.
What you mean for great? I'm genuinely asking. From what I heard seems quite unstable and it's just a demo. Knowing capcom I'm bit pessimistic to average 60 fps on switch 2. I have in mind the last RE releasing.
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David_Android
Neo Member
see above
who cares? do you own both?
thats rather sad.
i dont see such comparisons in german forums.Are you new in gaming forums?
*fake edit: Yes it's…
Mozza
Member
I agree that should be the reason.
David_Android
Neo Member
if you are a child i understand but from what i gathered neogaf is more older gamers. but even if you gain nothing from it because your box is running it better. nothing. alos if it runs worse, nothing. just play the damn game if the game is good you wont care how it looks or even performs. nobody gave a fuck when we played crysis 1 with 25 fps with double gpu setups and over 1000 Watts, we were happy we could play at all at these insane graphics back then. people should think more rationally.
Danjin44
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I agree with you 100% but thats not gonna stop people on internet acting like a child…especially in GAF which more obsesses about graphics compare to other places.
We have entire thread dedicated for graphics whores in GAF.
LordOcidax
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So… You are entering a comparison thread to critique comparisons… If you want to have a long live in this forum, that's not the way… If you don't like this kind of topic, just skip this kind of thread, simple.
TheGodfather07
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People realise the switch 2 is meant to be the worst version? It's not about graphics, resolution or framerate. Those are for high end systems. With switch 2 it's all about getting any version at all. Even if it's 720p. The switch audience don't care about best graphics and performance.
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David_Android
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oh no i have an own opinion.
LordOcidax
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Entering a thread which the topic is a comparison to critique the topic is trolling…
Danjin44
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But it's a pointless comparison. The fact is Switch 2 is weaker system among other gaming systems like PS5 or PC so there are going to be visual sacrifices.
But if someone buying games like Pragmata for Switch 2 then that someone should have realistic exceptions what hybrid system can offer.
If you are someone who's very picky about visuals and want best graphics possible then why would you ever pick Switch 2 version?
LordOcidax
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NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
This is a factually incorrect belief, and I hope it dies already.
It's like saying that the kids who play Minecraft, Roblox and Fortnite don't care about graphics and performance.
It's like saying that the millions of people who made GB Pokémon the juggernaut that it is didn't care about graphics and performance.
It's like saying that the millions of adults who spent thousands of hours on Rocket League and Binding of Isaac don't care about The Order 1886 or TLOU2.
In reality, graphics comparisons have been a thing since the consoles of the late 70s, among kids and grown-ups alike. People have been caring about graphics and performance since home video games became a thing.
There are relatively few people who have a Nintendo Switch and/or Switch 2 as their only gaming system. Most Switch owners also have another gaming system, or at least they're exposed to better-performing systems everywhere they turn. How can one possibly think that all of these people don't care about best graphics and performance?
Some people seem to think that a savvy gamer, who's been gaming for 30+ years and has a PS5 and/or a PC with at least medium specs, should never pick the Switch 2 version if he has a better alternative, under no circumstance. Well, some of them will do exactly that.
Now, can you say that such a person doesn't care about best graphics and performance? Can you say that a person who had a Dreamcast in 1999, but loved Pokemon Yellow, didn't care about best graphics and performance?
Some people in here are borderline explicitly saying that anyone choosing the Switch 2 version of a game is clueless, or an idiot.
You're wrong. Get over yourselves.
Danjin44
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peish
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recap on the specs of SW2 vs SS...
where do you all think the differences are coming from?
where do you all think the differences are coming from?
| Spec | Nintendo Switch 2 (Rumored Final) | Xbox Series S (Official) |
|---|---|---|
| GPU Architecture | NVIDIA Ampere (T239 "Drake") | AMD RDNA2 |
| Shader / CUDA Cores | 1536 CUDA cores (12 SMs) | 1280 shaders (20 CUs) |
| GPU Clock | 1.2 GHz (handheld) / 1.5 GHz (docked) | 1.565 GHz |
| TFLOPs (FP32) | 3.7–4.6 TFLOPs | 4.0 TFLOPs |
| ROP Count | 12 ROPs | 32 ROPs |
| Pixel Fill‑Rate | 14.4–18.0 GPixel/s | 50.1 GPixel/s |
| TMUs | 48 | 80 |
| Texture Fill‑Rate | 57.6–72.0 GTexel/s | 125 GTexel/s |
| Ray Tracing | Dedicated RT cores (Ampere) | RDNA2 RT (shader‑assisted) |
| RT Performance Difference | Ampere ~25–40% faster | RDNA2 slower per watt |
| AI / Upscaling | DLSS 2.x (Tensor cores) | No AI hardware |
| Rasterization Efficiency | Ampere ~10% faster per TFLOP | RDNA2 baseline |
| CPU | 8× ARM Cortex‑A78C | 8× AMD Zen 2 |
| CPU Clock | ~2.2 GHz | 3.4–3.6 GHz |
| CPU Scalar FLOPs | ~35 GFLOPs | ~180 GFLOPs |
| CPU Vector FLOPs | ~70 GFLOPs | ~720 GFLOPs |
| Memory | 12 GB LPDDR5 | 10 GB GDDR6 |
| Memory Bandwidth | 88–102 GB/s | 224 GB/s |
| Storage | 256 GB | 512 GB SSD |
| Upscaling Advantage | DLSS adds +30–70% effective performance | None |
| Category | Switch 2 (10 W) | Series S Scaled to 10 W | Winner |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rasterization | 100% | ~11% | Switch 2 (~9×) |
| Ray Tracing | 100% | ~30% | Switch 2 (~3×) |
| AI / Upscaling | Full DLSS | None | Switch 2 (infinite) |
| Pixel Fill‑Rate | 14.4 GPixel/s | 5.6 GPixel/s | Switch 2 (~2.6×) |
| Texture Fill‑Rate | 57.6 GTexel/s | 13.9 GTexel/s | Switch 2 (~4×) |
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Bojji
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In this thread you can have your own opinion about how each version looks and performs. But getting into the thread, criticizing its existence and people that care about this stuff is pretty pointless isn't it?
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omegasc
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I'm interested in these to see how far and quick technology advances, and the differences in the tech used in each system. It's also interesting to see how devs overcome limitations.
If you think it's a pointless comparison then this kind of thread is not for you, feel free to skip them all
DenchDeckard
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I'm guessing the ps5 pro isn't using pssr? It looks grungie compared to pc.
Don't get me wrong I think it looks good it's just a considerable difference between pro and a good pc
Don't get me wrong I think it looks good it's just a considerable difference between pro and a good pc
RafterXL
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If the Switch 2 can do what it's doing with that hardware, can you imagine what we lost out on with the PS5/XSX because they went with AMD?
omegasc
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I believe it is using PSSR. It looks like a typical REngine game to me. Maybe Capcom is getting good on PC since they have been giving more love to it for some time... only to butcher performance gains with DRM ffs
Mr Moose
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I don't own either of them, I just have eyes. You seem to care, you're in a thread about the games comparisons between the consoles complaining about comparing them.
It's good to see what the game looks like on your hardware and how it compares to others.
Switch 2 version is looking better than the Series S version in a lot of areas. I think I noticed some shadows in part of it looking better on the S, but overall Switch 2 looks better. The image is more stable, less jaggies and better looking textures.
Performance is a different story, but graphically I'd give the win to the Switch 2 over S.
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ElFenomeno
Gold Member
IQ takes a very noticeable hit on Performance mode. I expect this to be the norm going forward.
Hate to admit it, but with GTA, FF7 Part 3 on the horizon and the PS6 pushed back, the Pro starts to make sense for me.
Will wait to see the PSSR update, then I might bite the bullet this year.
Hate to admit it, but with GTA, FF7 Part 3 on the horizon and the PS6 pushed back, the Pro starts to make sense for me.
Will wait to see the PSSR update, then I might bite the bullet this year.
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LordOcidax
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I have a base PS5, Series S (Sold my X), an 4080 and a Switch 2, and i love this kind of threads
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sephirot_buns
Neo Member
These 2026 games are telling me one thing, PS5 is slowly starting to show its age due to lack of a proper upscaler and proper framegen tech to boost the baseline. This would not be even close with FSR4 implemented, the biggest test besides GTA6 will be Crimson Desert which imo will have the Rebirth blur and some lackluster frame performance.
Thats for the ''keep the next gen away till 2040'' crowd, Im thinking 2028 is the latest Sony can wait before unleashing the kraken
Thats for the ''keep the next gen away till 2040'' crowd, Im thinking 2028 is the latest Sony can wait before unleashing the kraken
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It's called a bad port. SF6 has the same resolution and worse textures then base ps4 on series s so capcom doesn't not care about series s. This has the same issues as SF6 just runs much better then switch 2 version. switch 2 actually looking better has only happened with capcom games, so this is not the norm.
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David_Android
Neo Member
I just asked questions nothing more, dont worry i wont anymore.
MisterXDTV
Member
It's clear third-party devs are stopping caring about a dead platform.....
Switch 2 is more important to target than Xbox Series in 2026, no doubt about it
That doesn't mean Switch 2 has better specs than Series S
Switch 2 stays between PS4 and PS4 Pro and Series S is better than both
Switch 2 is more important to target than Xbox Series in 2026, no doubt about it
That doesn't mean Switch 2 has better specs than Series S
Switch 2 stays between PS4 and PS4 Pro and Series S is better than both
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Diego Brasil
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Despite this visual glitch in the PS5 Pro's ray tracing,
the Pro version is far superior.
The resolution and image quality are much higher... PS5 and Series X have a lot of jagged edges.
In addition, the PS5 Pro's performance is far superior to the Xbox and PS5.
PS5 Pro 60fps
Series X dropping to 40fps at various times.
the Pro version is far superior.
The resolution and image quality are much higher... PS5 and Series X have a lot of jagged edges.
In addition, the PS5 Pro's performance is far superior to the Xbox and PS5.
PS5 Pro 60fps
Series X dropping to 40fps at various times.
Topher
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not at all i would simply watch a video of my platform with the game i want to see how it performs, not stupid comparisons from complete diefferent devices. there is absolutely nothing to gain from that.
If it looks better on Ps5 which obviously it does, why should i compare that to a switch 2 that i dont even own? A handheld device that is heavily power limited by design. i personally just dont get it. but im just asking nothing more no bad blood or anything.
That's fair. Just means these threads are not for you.
That's the point. DF repeated pro console were useless but I don't envy anyone stuck on base console because games on performance mode have horrid IQ a lot of times entrapped with the shitty software upscaler. For me ps5 pro remain a benediction.
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Its mainly only capcom. FF7 remake is much better then the switch 2 version and so is AC shadows. capcom made SF6 look better on base ps4 then series s how the heck does that happen? still despite slightly looking worse the game run much better on series s so its still the much better version to play.
Despite this visual glitch in the PS5 Pro's ray tracing,
the Pro version is far superior.
The resolution and image quality are much higher... PS5 and Series X have a lot of jagged edges.
In before Oliver said to prefer the base hardware IQ because it's better in still
I warning you peopleCapcom is notorious to ditching the xbox version in multiplat porting.
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Bojji
Member
Despite this visual glitch in the PS5 Pro's ray tracing,
the Pro version is far superior.
The resolution and image quality are much higher... PS5 and Series X have a lot of jagged edges.
In addition, the PS5 Pro's performance is far superior to the Xbox and PS5.
PS5 Pro 60fps
Series X dropping to 40fps at various times.
They probably use same old CB rendering on PS5/XSX - it looks pretty horrible. Whatever they use on Pro (probably PSSR but who knows) it looks much better.
Mr Moose
Member
I noticed in one of the screenshots Switch 2 was cleaner than PS5.
This one.
MisterXDTV
Member
PS5 Pro will have PSSR 2.0 when this releases in April, so it can only get better
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Zoom in you will see the switch 2 and series s version have a artifacting and looks grainy compared to ps5.
Bojji
Member
If Capcom bothers to implement it, in the end it's in the hands of developers. Sony never forces anything like that.