I speculate that they enjoyed the ping of the bat hitting his skull.
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Preacher w/ you deserve to be raped sign hit over head by bat wielding woman
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I speculate that they enjoyed the ping of the bat hitting his skull.
Glad he got bopped on the noggin, but also glad she got done for assault. You just can't have people taking the law into their own hands and committing violence against someone who is just voicing his opinion.
It's like that video of the neo-Nazi getting punched. You might disagree with what he has to say or the views he holds, but don't resort to your baser instincts.
It's like that video of the neo-Nazi getting punched. You might disagree with what he has to say or the views he holds, but don't resort to your baser instincts.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I would say that, on GAF at least (which I think is probably representative of where American liberalism will be in a few years, but more extreme than the general population at the present moment on this issue), most people cheering that likely also believe there should be laws against hate speech that would prevent him from demonstrating publicly in the first place, as they believe in this thread with respect to this disgusting animal of a "preacher".
Personally, I want hate speech laws like other nations that have them.
At the very least, I'm for banning this kind of speech to be rallied or preached within, at least, 200 feet of the school unless they have permission from the school or the city. Children shouldn't have to go through this.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Agreed. Sometimes you run out of options and a statement needs to be made.
There is always the option to ignore or walk away.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Not when the antagonists are literally trying to find ways to erase you from existence.
old manatee
Banned
Yeah, these minors should just pay attention to their math class and 'ignore' the guy who is outside the window shouting hate speech through a megaphone. These minors should have 'walked away' despite the fact that he is standing in-between them and their school.
I was talking about the general "violence never solves anything" people. Like I said, for progress to be made, once all peaceful options run out, you have to fight back or lose.
Had Stonewall never happened, we wouldn't have LGBT rights as widespread as they are, we might not have had them at all. And with the AIDS epidemic happening shortly after the formation of these rights organizations, if they didn't exist you can likely expect that the wider public would see the so called "gay cancer" as a threat to them and start rounding gay people like cattle to the slaughter (Hell, they won't fell so bad about it either, for years they thought we were pedophiles), or at the very least, a bigger AIDS crisis since Reagan over there was extremely silent about it until, like, at the end of his term. It was thanks to groups like ACT UP that AIDS was in the public mind. The same ACT UP wouldn't exist without Stonewall, it was formed in one of the LGBT organizations after all.
The violence at Stonewall pushed LGBT rights into the public mind, it helped us with the AIDS epidemic in the 80s. It was necessary and needed. Because this is the reality if you walk away and ignore:
MeatGrinder
Member
Violence is not ok! This guy was an idiot and should be in jail, but violence does not solve this shit.
Crossing Eden
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Certainly solved the problem of him being at that school.
That option helped put six million of my people in the fucking ground. It's easy to cower in a corner and claim these monsters have the freedom of speech. That way while they go after others, you can hide somewhere feeling safe and content about your imaginary moral high ground.
if you incite violence on others I am very okay for people to get violent on you preemptively.
"You deserve to be raped" Falls in this category and deserves the violence in return that they were looking to purport.
There is absolutely no reason for the public to tolerate hatred, inciting and wishing violence on others for things that literally does nothing to them other than that person simply existing.
Sure I can ignore a leaky faucet, but its still going to leak, then mold, then the mold may turn toxic and now im playing way more to fix the issue rather than addressing the issue in the first place. But sure ignore it until they come to your front steps telling you should be raped etc. got it.
I know you've been corrected already - but just to emphasize, this does not always work, nor is it even a good option.
Thank you.
You'd think we'd be able to stay above a bar that low, but nope.
If that's what you got from my post you read it wrong. I was talking about the reality of of our culture, the general fear of rape that hang over women, victims or no, and how all that combined with a lack of action from authorities would make the girls actions understandable, while ignoring him makes the general culture worse.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I will do whatever it is necessary for them to stop it.
I can deal with people making fun of me. Most probably I wouldn't even be angry if there's someone saying that I deserve to be raped.
But if that person is saying such vile things to my valued persons, yes I am going to do something. Confront, argue, attack, whatever is necessary to make them stop. Don't really give a fuck if people say I am "resorting to my baser instinct" when they see me do that, there are just some things that are crossing the line that I just won't ignore.
Tell that to a bunch of teens who are at their most emotionally fragile. "You deserve to be raped" isn't something you just brush off.
Yeah, this is another thing.
People are trying to paint this as a guy whose just talking shit. Like it's honestly something that has no affect unless you let it.
Has anyone ever had some kind of major trauma of any kind and then had another person deliberately dig into it? Ever had a relative die and someone laugh at your mourning them?
Any of those kids could have experience with sexual assault. Having someone say they deserved it isn't just work, it's intentional aggravation of emotional trauma.
It hurts. It literally, physically hurts when people do something like that.
TheTylerDurden
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This is a tough one.
Sure, you can start with the whole 'violence is wrong' thing. It's a safe (legal) stand to make.
But we're humans, and there are limits and breaking points. When someone is abusing their right to free speech and causing potential harm to others through hateful and threatening speech, they are going over the line.
That doesn't give someone the right to assault them, but as humans our emotions can take over and out of desperation we do what our most basic instincts tell us to make the source of pain go away.
She of course ran the risk of actually killing this person, which would have been tragic for multiple reasons. But you cannot deny that it got us talking about it. It got attention.
And that is the kind of thing that needs to happen to affect change in people's behavior.
Sure, you can start with the whole 'violence is wrong' thing. It's a safe (legal) stand to make.
But we're humans, and there are limits and breaking points. When someone is abusing their right to free speech and causing potential harm to others through hateful and threatening speech, they are going over the line.
That doesn't give someone the right to assault them, but as humans our emotions can take over and out of desperation we do what our most basic instincts tell us to make the source of pain go away.
She of course ran the risk of actually killing this person, which would have been tragic for multiple reasons. But you cannot deny that it got us talking about it. It got attention.
And that is the kind of thing that needs to happen to affect change in people's behavior.
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