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US President Donald Trump has said he believes torture works, saying "we have to fight fire with fire".
Mr Trump told ABC News he would consult Defense Secretary James Mattis and CIA director Mike Pompeo about what could be done legally to combat radicalism.
The president said while radical groups beheaded people in the Middle East "we're not playing on an even field".
However, ex-CIA director Leon Panetta said it would be a "serious mistake to take a backward step" on torture.
Mr Trump has also issued an executive order for an "impassable physical barrier" to be built along the US border with Mexico.

‪ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38753000?ocid=socialflow_twitter‬

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Why can't he ever make up alternative facts that aren't terrible? Like, how are his opinions so uniformly wrong?

 

[bounchfx]

Why can't he ever make up alternative facts that aren't terrible? Like, how are his opinions so uniformly wrong?

listen if you're trying to dismantle america from within and destroy trust in not only the system but your fellow man, then the quickest way is to probably go all out like he has been

 

[zethren]

He's an idiot.

It works if you don't care if the tortured provides accurate information or not. It works if you're a sick fuck who gets his rocks off TORTURING people.

 

[HvySky]

listen if you're trying to dismantle america from within and destroy trust in not only the system but your fellow man, then the quickest way is to probably go all out like he has been

If he is trying to break the United States, he's doing so with merciless precision. Shame we couldn't have a sane person in the White House follow through on their promises the way this guy has over the last week.

 

[bounchfx]

If he is trying to break the United States, he's doing so with merciless precision.

i mean, looking at everything he's done, even if he's NOT a russian plant/puppet, he's certainly doing all the same fucking things one would do

 

[StrategyFan]

he has consulted with people that he appointed to determine whether torture "works"

we all know that donald only appoints and surrounds himself with the most qualified people

 

[yanipheonu]

Trump does have a concerning lack of morality.

He seems to think that something is right as long as its legal.

 

[HvySky]

Trump does have a concerning lack of morality.

He seems to think that something is right as long as its legal.

Considering all of the illegal shit he's done, even that is a bridge too far.

 

[Mr.Mike]

Trump does have a concerning lack of morality.

He seems to think that something is right as long as its legal.

I wish he had that much of a moral code.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Why can't he ever make up alternative facts that aren't terrible? Like, how are his opinions so uniformly wrong?

The thing about alternative facts is that the truth is what you say it is. And if people correct you, you publicly shame them and pull their funding.

To a large part of the population, this is now true.

 

[SenorArdilla]

It's not about information. It's because they "deserve" it.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

the article says hell defer to mattis and pompeo on it and mattis is against waterboarding

 

[KRod-57]

"Treat the prisoners of war well, and care for them. This is called 'winning a battle and becoming stronger'" - Sun Tzu (The Art Of War)

 

[PopeReal]

1. It is morally wrong.
2. It doesn't work.

 

[Darth Pinche]

He has no morals at all. Anything that gets in the way of what he wants is wrong.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

But guys Mattis convinced him otherwise!!


/bothsides

 

[Samurai G0SU]

When we getting tweets about aliens though. Fuck.

 

[Somnid]

Trump does have a concerning lack of morality.

He seems to think that something is right as long as its legal.

And if it's not legal he's gonna make sure it becomes legal.

 

[mercenar1e]

advocating for war crimes on TV? the guy is a mad man.

 

[Get'sMad]

1. It is morally wrong.
2. It doesn't work.

yeah but someone told him it was tremendous and the best form of torture.

can't argue with that.

 

[astroturfing]

how can a guy who wants to TORTURE be chosen to lead a Western so called civilized country? boggles the fucking mind. even many Islamic terrorists are against torture (from what i've read) so you have to sink pretty low to entertain such ideas..

 

[Ithil]

His own Secretary of Defense, Mattis, is against torture and has said it is completely ineffective in getting information, and that treating prisoners well instead leads to reliable intel (to say nothing of it being humane).

 

[adj_noun]

1. It is morally wrong.
2. It doesn't work.

It works on TV and in movies though.

 

[EVOL 100%]

And the hits just keep coming! And it's only been 5 days. Holy fucking shit

 

[Intheflorsh]

Not just waterboarding, he thinks torture in general works.

 

[Mr.Mike]

advocating for war crimes on TV? the guy is a mad man.

Americans voted for him knowing he advocates for war crimes. It was known before the election, and it was known even before he won the Republican primary.

 

[Claude Augario]

Maybe he thinks they mean watersporting.

 

[Oersted]

Trump does have a concerning lack of morality.

He seems to think that something is right as long as its legal.

And given that Donald is convinced anything he does is legal because he is President...

 

[tbm24]

I like how it's a problem to him that we aren't on the same playing field as fucking terrorists.

 

[Get'sMad]

like you're talking about people who are literally willing to blow themselves up and do all kinds of heinous shit but by just doing a little bit of torture they'll give up all of the goods....believe me!

 

[Toxi]

the article says hell defer to mattis and pompeo on it and mattis is against waterboarding

It's very reassuring that our President is such an idiot that we're glad someone else is making decisions instead of him.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

"They're barbarians, so we should be too!"

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

He's an idiot.

It works if you don't care if the tortured provides accurate information or not. It works if you're a sick fuck who gets his rocks off TORTURING people.

Torture for Trump won't be about information gathering, it will be about punishment and revenge.

 

[Mr.Mike]

I like how it's a problem to him that we aren't on the same playing field as fucking terrorists.

I don't think AQ or ISIS have gone as far as wanting to steal resources from other people.

 

[MaximumSpider]

Maybe he thinks they mean watersporting.

Ayyy

 

[slit]

McCain and a few others in the GOP won't back this. Here is where some of the Republican infighting starts.

 

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