Considering how much he pushes divide over unity he knows and he doesn't like it.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
President Trump advocates for Government shutdown in September
- Thread starter Tripon
- Start date
Considering how much he pushes divide over unity he knows and he doesn't like it.
I'd hope so
What? That means there will be an election because of a political impasse that might require a stronger majority to pass the vote.
It can result in a shift of policy as the administration could change hands, that is a major part of our democratic process, I don't know how you misunderstood it so badly lol
White guy backed by Republicans. The weirdness is called privilege meets lust for power.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
To Obtain a Republican supermajority, the Republicans only to flip 12 senate seats, 20 house seats, and one state legislature.
Trump is raging impotently because he's unable to get his budget through Congress. But he'll fold like a cheap suit and sign it anyway. Then he'll rage some more and vow to get his budget priorities done at some unspecified later date. But because he's a shitty negotiator with no experience at governing, it never happens.
This should be repeated. The guy wants to be a tyrant.
Trump gets frustrated he doesn't get his way and attacks instutions with the hope they will bend or break to his will. He is absolutely hellbent on attacking anything perceived as a block to his agenda; judges, parliamentary rules, media etc. Basically any check or balance. He shows no interest in actually negotiating except by threat, no interest in amending positions to get legislative victories.
There's a real risk he invokes a blatantly illegal power grab and / or constitutional crisis.
Keep resisting as much as possible folks, any way you can.
Man this asshole does not give a single fuck about checks and balances. He also doesn't give a shit that the majority of Americans are liberals or at least moderate and therefore we should have a seat at the table when it comes to determining how things should be. So fucked up. Next time liberals are in power we need to remember this shit. No more bending over backwards to appease people who won't even work with you in good faith.
Accelerationism doesn't generally work too well, unfortunately.
If they pull off this Herculean feat, especially in this climate, this country is truly beyond redemption.
RPGCrazied
Member
Maybe another reason he is lashing out I heard on CNN that he doesn't have the votes for healthcare again.
That has got to sting. Good.
That has got to sting. Good.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
The quotes around shutdown make the word "shutdown" mean anything they want it to.
I don't get how people can actually believe this. We had a massive crash in 08 that should have taught us all how bad republicans and their ilk were. It worked for all of one election cycle and then the Republicans won more power than they'd had for decades.
When shit gets really bad the electorate doesn't get logical. They flail like narcissistic infants with a temper tantrum.
That's a slightly harder task than you make it sound.
Who knows what shenanigans they and their Russian buddies will try though
Lord Frieza
Member
I don't think there's any doubt he will try something like this, but I'm much less worried about it than I once was. He doesn't have the capital or alliances for a real coup attempt.
Not to say we shouldn't be vigilante about such an attempt in the future, of course, but I'm less scared than I once was, at least at this point in time.
It'd be more fun if everyone just agreed and went along with him. Then his hopes for chaos would be so completely dashed and confusing to his brain that he would gain total zero gravity and just float off to his home planet.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It also feels like he will screw it up too if he does it.
There is no part of that sentence that he understands lol.
He doesn't understand that he's a president and not an emperor.
He doesn't understand that he needs to serve anyone besides himself.
He doesn't even understand that he needs Republicans on his side, much less anyone else in the US.
Yeah, I'm not too concerned about Trump being able to really pull off anything substantial during his presidency. The main damage he's doing is sowing distrust and resentment against our democracy's institutions within a not insignificant portion of the electorate.
And of course, he's still Commander in Chief of the US military.
He certainly doesn't come across as the type to put all the pieces together. You can imagine him trying by accident and incompetence and invoking a complete constitutional crisis. Especially with republicans being completely spinless.
Anyway, that's why it's so important to keep up the engagement and the activities and to connect to others who have some fight in them, just in case. And to have practiced suppressing the fear and invoking courage if it ever becomes necessary
Lord Frieza
Member
Even if he does manage to pull something off, you have to think: he doesn't have control over his party in the least, they can't even get a bill passed the House. It's harder to gauge where he stands with the military, but the fact that he often has conflicting views with McMasters and Mattis tells me it's not as solid as it seems despite his apparent willingness to give them unlimited funding. And while he obviously has a vocal base around him, the majority of the nation is not with him, and it's very obvious.
Of course, the wind could change, so we have to stay vigilante, it's still early.
Monocle
Member
I hate how people keep misinterpreting his words by focusing on the direct implications of the actual things he says! So unfair. Seems like the kind of thing Obama would do.
All we need to do to ensure a peaceful transition of power is to usher him out with a televised award ceremony where he's presented with a golden trophy in the shape of his penis (actual size x10) with a plaque that says "World's Greatest President" in Comic Sans.
FTFY
It's going to be great when that quote is used against him in ads in 2020.
I think Dems still hold too many seats in the House or Senate for it to be considered a supermajority.
KraftyKrankins
Member
My brain is shutting down while reading this.
Lord Frieza
Member
The stupidest thing about is that it's not even really about the Democrats right now. The GOP can't pass shit because of shit within their own party. Even if they do manage to get more seats, it's not going to stop that core issue. I mean, lol, could you imagine if they did manage to get a supermajority, and they still couldn't get enough votes to pass that healthcare bill. I hope we don't come to that, obviously, would rather not flirt with that chance, but the idea is just utterly hilarious. Until you get sad thinking that these people are actually in charge of the government.
You can always tell when Donald learns something new. He quickly plugs it in a tweet or an interview, thinking it makes him look knowledgeable, no matter if it's a widely known fact or not.
It's like the word "archaic" that he obviously learned a few days ago and now he can't stop using it.
thecouncil
Banned
I mean, just last week he handed out electoral maps to journalists again (for some reason) and said, "...that's the final map of the numbers. It's pretty good, right? The red is obviously us."
"The great uniter", this guy. Us vs them.
Simply, that is incorrect. When Harper prorogued parliament it just ended the session, it's a stalling tactic.
When there's a government shutdown in the US, public employees are locked out and stop getting paid.
For Canada, public employees are unaffected.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown_in_the_United_States
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Such artistry of the deal.
This man has been a failure from the start. If he hadn't been born into enormous wealth, he'd be donning a mustard-stained wifebeater shirt, throwing empty beer cans at loud kids, while yelling racial slurs from his shitty trailer. He's a massive fuckup. His entire administration has been a joke. I hope his name carries its shit stain for all of American history.
Mighty Chin
Banned
He's a deal maker as long as he hold the overwhelming advantage.