Presidential Candidate Ron Paul's Official Thread

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Introduction:
So with all the threads concerning Ron Paul, I thought it was time to centralize everything to one thread. Essentially this thread can be used to discuss or debate Ron Paul's ideas or share new information or videos related to Mr. Paul.

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Bio:
Congressman Ron Paul is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation’s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the “one exception to the Gang of 535” on Capitol Hill.

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Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Ron Paul Links:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
http://www.youtube.com/RonPaul2008dotcom
http://www.ihateronpaul.com/ (best site ever... keep watching the videos... it gets better and better :) )

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(note: this thread is completely open to those who don't agree or like Ron Paul. The purpose is to discuss current world issues facing this country.)
 
WHAAAAT! NOOOOOOO!!!

I was going to make fun of Tucker's polkadot bowtie, and BAM, there he is, wearing a proper tie! It's still polkadotted, but it's a tie! Tucker has grown up!
 
Kudos to Carlson and Ron Paul for that nice review, I was quite impressed. It should would be nice for him to win the nomination...
 
Wow. He completely went into lunacy oblivion when Zach asked him if he was going to microchip his children. He completely turned the question around and asked the caller what he should do?

What

The

****?
 
Watched the Daily Show interview, and Ron Paul's whole answer just seems to be "Do nothing and don't interfere at all". That uh...to me, isn't a way of dealing with the problem, that's just a way of ignoring/hiding from it.

Isolationism doesn't work, and I don't think there's been a president in the US for more than 50+ years that's genuinely followed that policy, let alone successfully.
 
reilo said:
WHAAAAT! NOOOOOOO!!!

I was going to make fun of Tucker's polkadot bowtie, and BAM, there he is, wearing a proper tie! It's still polkadotted, but it's a tie! Tucker has grown up!
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He hasn't worn a bow tie since crossfire got canceled and he moved to msnbc.
 
I liked him before it was cool. ;)

Seriously though, the only area where I begrudgingly disagree with Paul is on his staunchly anti-death penalty thing. He's a follower of the "consistant life ethic."

I <3 Paul on basically every issue. Iraq is ironically something I'm not voting on this election.
 
Hamfam said:
Watched the Daily Show interview, and Ron Paul's whole answer just seems to be "Do nothing and don't interfere at all". That uh...to me, isn't a way of dealing with the problem, that's just a way of ignoring/hiding from it.

Isolationism doesn't work, and I don't think there's been a president in the US for more than 50+ years that's genuinely followed that policy, let alone successfully.
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His position has nothing to do with isolationism.
 
Hamfam said:
Watched the Daily Show interview, and Ron Paul's whole answer just seems to be "Do nothing and don't interfere at all". That uh...to me, isn't a way of dealing with the problem, that's just a way of ignoring/hiding from it.

Isolationism doesn't work, and I don't think there's been a president in the US for more than 50+ years that's genuinely followed that policy, let alone successfully.
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Outside of his views on getting out of Iraq I disagree with him on nearly his entire platform and that includes his foreign policy.

I'll duck out though since I know that view isn't popular in this thread.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Outside of his views on getting out of Iraq I disagree with him on nearly his entire platform and that includes his foreign policy.

I'll duck out though since I know that view isn't popular in this thread.
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That's wonderful to know. You better start an Official Giuliani thread now.
 
jey_16 said:
this guy sounds terrific....why dont you guys vote for him instead Hillary
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I had no idea one could possibly vote for Hillary Clinton in a Republican primary election. Nice to know!
 
JayDubya said:
I liked him before it was cool. ;)

Seriously though, the only area where I begrudgingly disagree with Paul is on his staunchly anti-death penalty thing. He's a follower of the "consistant life ethic."

I <3 Paul on basically every issue. Iraq is ironically something I'm not voting on this election.
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The good news on the death penalty thing is that it's the State's call anyways. Yeah he seems to really have it together, too bad we're heading for a Giuliani crapfest most likely.
 
Stoney Mason said:
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Due to your views on Iraq I am really curious how you are taking to his extremist neocan stances in the mold of Dick Cheney (saying Bush would be being too kind to Rudy)? You never give a clear answer and 3 debates in a row he has been like this. It isn't primary politics either, he has always been the overly tough guy (taking the police's side in EVERY case in NYC, even when they were wrong)

He is far and away seen as the most pro-Iraq War of the 10 running currently yet you seem to kind of like him even though you are against the war.
 
Hopefully hell can freeze over just once, and he can get the nomination :)
 
Cheebs said:
Due to your views on Iraq I am really curious how you are taking to his extremist neocan stances in the mold of Dick Cheney (saying Bush would be being too kind to Rudy)? You never give a clear answer and 3 debates in a row he has been like this. It isn't primary politics either, he has always been the overly tough guy (taking the police's side in EVERY case in NYC, even when they were wrong)

He is far and away seen as the most pro-Iraq War of the 10 running currently yet you seem to kind of like him even though you are against the war.
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I was dissapointed with his nation building comments in that last debate. (Even though I thought he won the debate as a lot of other analysts did)

I believe and still believe he is driven by polls far more than the other Republicans and that gives him the chance to reverse course when he's actually in the office versus the other candidates. What these guys say now is a little different from what it will be when they actually take office and don't have all that power they thought they would.

I'm also still sympathetic to Rudy because he is moderate on some of the other issues that the Republicans aren't.

That being said, if he keeps up the nationbuilding talk and his resolute Iraq War talk he will lose my sympathy along with a ton of moderate votes for the general election. There is a difference between the war on terror and the war on Iraq to the American people and Rudy is on the wrong side of that issue currently.




EDIT: Also keep in mind this is always in reference to the question which Republican would I prefer as president (that has a shot). I'm liberal so I would never vote for any of these guys.

This means: (Romney, Thompson, Mccain, Rudy).
 
The day I support a Republican over any of the Democrats in 2008 is the day Hell freezes over.

Look at Hitler go... Who knew he was such a great figure skater. :D
 
Link1110 said:
The day I support a Republican over any of the Democrats in 2008 is the day Hell freezes over.

Look at Hitler go... Who knew he was such a great figure skater. :D
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Hey, I'm a Registered Republican and if it's Giuliani, I'll probably vote Libertarian.:lol

Party-line voting FTL
 
Tamanon said:
The good news on the death penalty thing is that it's the State's call anyways. Yeah he seems to really have it together, too bad we're heading for a Giuliani crapfest most likely.
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Yeah, it's like, some people absolutely deserve it, but the state is fallible. But they clearly did it, and they deserve it. But the state is fallible. But they almost certainly did something so heinous that they deserve to be put down. But they might not have because the state is fallible.

And so forth and so on. I'm torn. >_<

Oh well, not voting on death penalty stance, not voting on Iraq War stance. Paul is still the best fit. :lol And of course, death penalty doesn't matter a whole lot for president anyway. I wish it was like that with abortion, which would make my presidential options more open, but it isn't.

And this time around, I don't need a whole lot of options. I've got Paul, who is perfect.
 
I think Ron Paul is a good guy and seems to focus on issues that actually, you know, matter. And look at that-- he's anti-Iraq! But overall he's a conservative through and through, and frankly I don't agree with most of conservative ideals. So, I wouldn't vote for him, but he really does seem to have his head on straighter than just about any other GOP candidate.
 
If someone wrote a book about a Libertarian winning the presidency and then actually governing according to the Libertarian party platform successfully, it would be in the science fiction section of the bookstore.
 
Guileless said:
If someone wrote a book about a Libertarian winning the presidency and then actually governing according to the Libertarian party platform successfully, it would be in the science fiction section of the bookstore.
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Philip K. Dick once wrote of a marvelous candy that, when ingested, would essentially trap you in the world of a malevolent god. Ron Paul's candy is named Iraq. :)
 
Guileless said:
If someone wrote a book about a Libertarian winning the presidency and then actually governing according to the Libertarian party platform successfully, it would be in the science fiction section of the bookstore.
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Horror is more likely, to be perfectly frank.
 
Triumph Dolomite 1300cc said:
Horror is more likely, to be perfectly frank.
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What's fun about this quote is that I can now - with total seriousness and no hint of irony or sarcasm - ask you why you hate freedom.

So.... howzabout it?
 
From what I can tell, Paul is one of those people you can respect even if you don't agree with him, which is nice because I don't on certain things. ;)
 
JayDubya said:
What's fun about this quote is that I can now - with total seriousness and no hint of irony or sarcasm - ask you why you hate freedom.

So.... howzabout it?
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I think you know what my beefs are with the Libertarian school of thought, but I'll put it in a nutshell for you- large companies can not be trusted to do the ethical thing, ever. They must be regulated out the wazoo for the good of the consumer.

A lot of what Paul is espousing, or traditional Lib philosophy I'm FINE with. Get out of Iraq? Works for me. Rescind the Patriot Act? Yes please. Legalize dope? I'm down.

But unleash corporations on the world with no oversight? That's about the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard.
 
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