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[Mr.Mike]

The most mind blowing moment for me was when Lester asked about race relations and Donald started talking about Law and Order and stop and frisk, which has been proven to disproportionally target innocent minorities.

This was sandwiched in between him being dismissive of contract law and constitutional law and the judiciary.

 

[tarheel91]

I understand that, but wouldn't it be her that should call him out on his lying, not the moderator?

The moderator would ask him a question, and Trump would say "that's not true" or "that's a lie." The moderator was only fact checking when Trump falsely challenged the validity of a question (e.g. not supporting the war in Iraq).

 

[Effigenius]

There should've been a drinking game for when Trump admitted he evades paying taxes because I didn't expect him to do that.

I think he was as surprised as anyone. Sometimes he has as little idea of what is going to come out of his mouth as the rest of us do.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I love how they somehow try to phrase it like they aren't ballot stuffing. And what's more many of them will even believe that they're not trying to rig the polls, which is exactly what they're doing.

Hillary lies infinity less than Trump does.

 

[Jeffrey]

kinda wish the moderator had more power.

Like mic mute buttons.

 

[EatinOlives]

Oh man, and I even forgot:

We still have Kaine v. Pence to look forward to.

 

[Already Torn]

Was there a fucking moderator this debate? I just watched it and my god this wasn't moderated at all. Trump started out well and got beat hard as time went on.

A moderator would have stopped his meltdowns. Probably for the best. Like a real moderator probably wouldn't let him answer a question with "Yeah I said Rosie O'Donnel sucks, you know I'm right!"

 

[Krejlooc]

kinda wish the moderator had more power.

Like mic mute buttons.

No, they need to let him talk. He does way more damage to himself when he talks.

 

[B-Dubs]

"Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court for racial profiling."

"No it wasn't"

"Yes, it was, the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional."

"Well, no it's not, because if we appeal it, we'll win. The point is, stop and frisk works, it's good because it works, and it works so well."

"statistics show that stop and frisk actually did not lower crime"

"No, I know, it worked really well, and that's why we need stop and frisk."

The funny part is even the NYPD, who used Stop and Frisk, had to admit it didn't do shit.

The moderator would ask him a question, and Trump would say "that's not true" or "that's a lie." The moderator was only fact checking when Trump falsely challenged the validity of a question (e.g. not supporting the war in Iraq).

Trump was lying about that stuff though. Like lying through his teeth.

 

[TaterTots]

"Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court for racial profiling."

"No it wasn't"

"Yes, it was, the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional."

"Well, no it's not, because if we appeal it, we'll win. The point is, stop and frisk works, it's good because it works, and it works so well."

"statistics show that stop and frisk actually did not lower crime"

"No, I know, it worked really well, and that's why we need stop and frisk."

He eventually dropped an percentage, the question is if its true. I can't remember what number he threw out tho.

 

[jack_package_200]

Oh man, and I even forgot:

We still have Kaine v. Pence to look forward to.

Kaine will destroy Pence.

I hope he brings up Pence's affinity for Gay Conversion

 

[kevin1025]

Oh man, and I even forgot:

We still have Kaine v. Pence to look forward to.

This one could be just as fun, trying to watch Pence backpedal things Trump said while also trying to appear more than white bread.

 

[EatinOlives]

I don't know why people keep complaining about Lester's moderating was bad.

It's a GOOD thing he let Trump completely shit himself on national TV. He looked irritable, temperamental, incapable of letting Clinton speak, and the longer he spoke the crazier and more incoherent his thoughts became. Lester cutting him off would've deprived us of much of his insanity, which would've made him look better.

 

[Krejlooc]

He eventually dropped an percentage, the question is if its true. I can't remember what number he threw out tho.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...trump-on-crime-statistics-and-stop-and-frisk/

 

[Hellsing321]

yeah because thousand of ppl know how to rig a poll.

I mean yeah they probably do. But it doesn't even take a thousand to do it. Just a handful of scriptkiddies can rig most opt-in inline polls.

 

[theWB27]

The most mind blowing moment for me was when Lester asked about race relations and Donald started talking about Law and Order and stop and frisk, which has been proven to disproportionally target innocent minorities.

We just had a presidential candidate admit on stage he couldn't give two shits about the poor and minorities.

Trump's ideaologies:
1. I think giving the rich more money will allow them to finally put money back into the economy. The billions they have now just isn't enough.

2. I'll allow a cop to stop anyone they want (we know who that'll be) and frisk them. Because law and order against these baboons is the only way.


In a nutshell. He just presented a plan that will essentially make all these things infinitely worse.

One could not care about his fellow man and vote for trump at the same time.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

"Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court for racial profiling."

"No it wasn't"

"Yes, it was, the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional."

"Well, no it's not, because if we appeal it, we'll win. The point is, stop and frisk works, it's good because it works, and it works so well."

"statistics show that stop and frisk actually did not lower crime"

"No, I know, it worked really well, and that's why we need stop and frisk."

Trump's main cited sources are "Because I said so."

 

[More_Badass]

The most mind blowing moment for me was when Lester asked about race relations and Donald started talking about Law and Order and stop and frisk, which has been proven to disproportionally target innocent minorities.

Seriously. Like if anyone with any logic and somehow on the fence was watching this, that was the moment IMO. Hillary gives a concise response, and then Trump doesn't even answer the question in any way

 

[timetokill]

Have the mics turn off at the allotted time.

Let the moderators shut off the mics if they're not answering the CURRENT question.

Bring order to this mayhem pls

 

[B-Dubs]

Have the mics turn off at the allotted time.

Let the moderators shut off the mics if they're not answering the CURRENT question.

Bring order to this mayhem pls

Nope, that'd only help Trump. The best thing to do is let him hang himself.

 

[Piecake]

Have the mics turn off at the allotted time.

Let the moderators shut off the mics if they're not answering the CURRENT question.

Bring order to this mayhem pls

We need to bring law and order to the debates

 

[Krejlooc]

The most mind blowing moment for me was when Lester asked about race relations and Donald started talking about Law and Order and stop and frisk, which has been proven to disproportionally target innocent minorities.

In 2002, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 97,296 times.
80,176 were totally innocent (82 percent).
In 2003, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 160,851 times.
140,442 were totally innocent (87 percent).
77,704 were black (54 percent).
44,581 were Latino (31 percent).
17,623 were white (12 percent).
83,499 were aged 14-24 (55 percent).

In 2004, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 313,523 times.
278,933 were totally innocent (89 percent).
155,033 were black (55 percent).
89,937 were Latino (32 percent).
28,913 were white (10 percent).
152,196 were aged 14-24 (52 percent).

In 2005, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 398,191 times.
352,348 were totally innocent (89 percent).
196,570 were black (54 percent).
115,088 were Latino (32 percent).
40,713 were white (11 percent).
189,854 were aged 14-24 (51 percent).

In 2006, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 506,491 times.
457,163 were totally innocent (90 percent).
267,468 were black (53 percent).
147,862 were Latino (29 percent).
53,500 were white (11 percent).
247,691 were aged 14-24 (50 percent).

In 2007, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 472,096 times.
410,936 were totally innocent (87 percent).
243,766 were black (54 percent).
141,868 were Latino (31 percent).
52,887 were white (12 percent).
223,783 were aged 14-24 (48 percent).

In 2008, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 540,302 times.
474,387 were totally innocent (88 percent).
275,588 were black (53 percent).
168,475 were Latino (32 percent).
57,650 were white (11 percent).
263,408 were aged 14-24 (49 percent).

In 2009, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 581,168 times.
510,742 were totally innocent (88 percent).
310,611 were black (55 percent).
180,055 were Latino (32 percent).
53,601 were white (10 percent).
289,602 were aged 14-24 (50 percent).

In 2010, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 601,285 times.
518,849 were totally innocent (86 percent).
315,083 were black (54 percent).
189,326 were Latino (33 percent).
54,810 were white (9 percent).
295,902 were aged 14-24 (49 percent).

In 2011, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 685,724 times.
605,328 were totally innocent (88 percent).
350,743 were black (53 percent).
223,740 were Latino (34 percent).
61,805 were white (9 percent).
341,581 were aged 14-24 (51 percent).

In 2012, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 532,911 times
473,644 were totally innocent (89 percent).
284,229 were black (55 percent).
165,140 were Latino (32 percent).
50,366 were white (10 percent).

In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,558 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).
104,958 were black (56 percent).
55,191 were Latino (29 percent).
20,877 were white (11 percent).

In 2014, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 45,787 times.
37,744 were totally innocent (82 percent).
24,319 were black (53 percent).
12,489 were Latino (27 percent).
5,467 were white (12 percent).

In 2015, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 22,939 times.
18,353 were totally innocent (80 percent).
12,223 were black (54 percent).
6,598 were Latino (29 percent).
2,567 were white (11 percent).

A) Literally Illegal

B) Trump's solution to police-minority relations

 

[Apollo]

It's an open online poll, they are not hard to rig.

sorry but your math doesn't add up. I see over 300,000+ voters on some of these sites.

 

[Grief.exe]

We just had a presidential candidate admit on stage he couldn't give two shits about the poor and minorities.

Trump's ideologies:
1. I think giving the rich more money will allow them to finally put money back into the economy. The billions they have now just isn't enough.

2. I'll allow a cop to stop anyone they want (we know who that'll be) and frisk them. Because law and order against these baboons is the only way.


In a nutshell. He just presented a plan that will essentially make all these things infinitely worse.

One could not care about his fellow man and vote for trump at the same time.

At least for the racially charged answers, many of his predominately white supporters won't even be aware of the implicit policies he is proposing that will harm minority groups, or they will be apart of the group that is fully in favor of actively targeting minorities.

Seriously. Like if anyone with any logic and somehow on the fence was watching this, that was the moment IMO. Hillary gives a concise response, and then Trump doesn't even answer the question in any way

Especially for minority voters. That was the moment they were looking for.

That answer wasn't just dog whistles, that was barely unadulterated racism.

 

[Biske]

Where do I sign up to be a jackbooted anti-vape thug? I'll provide my own sack of doorknobs and everything.

For real, everybody vaping in your god damn face all over, just cause its not a cig.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

Have the mics turn off at the allotted time.

Let the moderators shut off the mics if they're not answering the CURRENT question.

Bring order to this mayhem pls

We need a moderator with balls next time. Someone not afraid to shut off Trump's mic and with a voice that can rise above his elephant seal honks. Every time he kept on going over the time limit(even the "Can I just say something quick" inserts that went on forever), I was screamin' "Cut the damn mic, Lester!" That's why I posted that "Wrap it up!" gif.

 

[the_batman]

sorry but your math doesn't add up. I see over 300,000+ voters on some of these sites.

Are you aware of auto scripts

 

[B-Dubs]

sorry but your math doesn't add up. I see over 300,000+ voters on some of these sites.

It's very easy to get past the very limited protections the websites put on these polls. Anyone with limited knowledge about computers can easily vote a couple hundred times without an issue in a short window.

We need a moderator with balls next time. Someone not afraid to shut off Trump's mic and with a voice that can rise above his elephant seal honks. Every time he kept on going over the time limit(even the "Can I just say something quick" inserts that went on forever), I was screamin' "Cut the damn mic, Lester!" That's why I posted that "Wrap it up!" gif.

Lester Holt did what good reporters do in an interview: he let Trump hang himself and tried to force him to answer the questions. Holt did fine, he let Trump wind the rope around his neck and jump off the side of the building.

 

[Aaronology]

kinda wish the moderator had more power.

Like mic mute buttons.

I don't. MSNBC was just praising Lester Holt for allowing the two to talk at length and specifically for giving Trump rope to hang himself. I wanted Trump show everyone how temperamental he is and both Holt and Clinton seemed perfectly happy to sit back and let that buffoon show it to 100 million Americans.

Hillary can handle an unrestrained Trump, clearly; I'm not worried about her. But voters needed to see in earnest Trump's volatility, his lack of intelligence and depth of knowledge and his lack of decency. They needed to see his disregard for truth and even something as simple as debate rules. This all needed to be witnessed, and tonight that's exactly what Holt's moderating style and Clinton's patience and self-control facilitated.

We'd be so lucky to get a repeat performance out of Trump, Clinton and whoever moderates the next debate if the result will be anything similar to what happened earlier.

 

[Burt]

I was watching something on YouTube, but then I saw Triumph humping some bald dudes forehead in the back of the MSNBC coverage

And I'm not gonna miss out on that

 

[Jeffrey]

On a side note, how does one participate in any polls?

I assume they call households? I've not had a house phone line in like a decade, no one ever called my cell.

 

[Krejlooc]

"the argument is that stop and frisk implements racial profiling"

"No, the argument is that these are very bad people who need to have their guns taken away from them."

 

[B-Dubs]

I don't. MSNBC was just praising Lester Holt for allowing the two to talk at length and specifically for giving Trump rope to hang himself. I wanted Trump show everyone how temperamental he is and both Holt and Clinton seemed perfectly happy to sit back and let that buffoon show it to 100 million Americans.

Hillary can handle an unrestrained Trump, clearly; I'm not worried about her. But voters needed to see in earnest Trump's volatility, his lack of intelligence and depth of knowledge and his lack of decency. They needed to see his disregard for truth and even something as simple as debate rules. This all needed to be witnessed, and tonight that's exactly what Holt's moderating style and Clinton's patience and self-control facilitated.

We'd be so lucky to get a repeat performance out of Trump, Clinton and whoever moderates the next debate if the result will be anything similar to what happened earlier.

I think Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz are next, and they're of the same school as Holt. So all we need to do is hope for a repeat performance from Trump.

 

[Raxus]

It's very easy to get past the very limited protections the websites put on these polls. Anyone with limited knowledge about computers can easily vote a couple hundred times without an issue in a short window.



Lester Holt did what good reporters do in an interview: he let Trump hang himself and tried to force him to answer the questions.

I'd also note that all polls from professional pollsters are coming out with Hilary winning. I am not going to get in knots about this until a few days have passed.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

"Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court for racial profiling."

"No it wasn't"

"Yes, it was, the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional."

"Well, no it's not, because if we appeal it, we'll win. The point is, stop and frisk works, it's good because it works, and it works so well."

"statistics show that stop and frisk actually did not lower crime"

"No, I know, it worked really well, and that's why we need stop and frisk."

"the argument is that stop and frisk implements racial profiling"

"No, the argument is that these are very bad people who need to have their guns taken away from them."

"Bigly"

 

[Aselith]

"the argument is that stop and frisk implements racial profiling"

"No, the argument is that these are very bad people who need to have their guns taken away from them."

Those minorities are always up to something. Ive talked to many many people about this. It's true. Sad

 

[Aaronology]

It's very easy to get past the very limited protections the websites put on these polls. Anyone with limited knowledge about computers can easily vote a couple hundred times without an issue in a short window.



Lester Holt did what good reporters do in an interview: he let Trump hang himself and tried to force him to answer the questions. Holt did fine, he let Trump wind the rope around his neck and jump off the side of the building.

Exactly.

I've seen nothing but praise for Holt except for a single Trump surrogate and even then he was rebuffed by the rest of his panel.

 

[Krejlooc]

"It's really sad that Donald Trump paints such a dire vision of the black community."

*donald trump groans*

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

We just had a presidential candidate admit on stage he couldn't give two shits about the poor and minorities.

Trump's ideaologies:
1. I think giving the rich more money will allow them to finally put money back into the economy. The billions they have now just isn't enough.

2. I'll allow a cop to stop anyone they want (we know who that'll be) and frisk them. Because law and order against these baboons is the only way.


In a nutshell. He just presented a plan that will essentially make all these things infinitely worse.

One could not care about his fellow man and vote for trump at the same time.

It's amazing how Trump tried to play the Tricklenomics card and then proceeds to demonstrate exactly why Tricklemomics doesn't work.

 

[Imperfected]

Where do I sign up to be a jackbooted anti-vape thug? I'll provide my own sack of doorknobs and everything.

Hey, let's not be hasty, vaping is super useful to society.

People need a way to immediately identify who to politely ignore in adult conversations, you know. They won't be wearing Trump That Bitch t-shirts forever.

 

[Ponn]

Have the mics turn off at the allotted time.

Let the moderators shut off the mics if they're not answering the CURRENT question.

Bring order to this mayhem pls

Law and Order!

 

[NoRéN]

"It's really sad that Donald Trump paints such a dire vision of the black community."

*donald trump groans*

This moment, man. This moment.

 

[Raxus]

It's amazing how Trump tried to play the Tricklenomics card and then proceed to demonstrate exactly why Tricklemomics doesn't work.

He has a nasty habit of doing that.

I support our allies, It is too expensive to support our allies.

All uttered in the same (*snort*) breath.

 

[B-Dubs]

Exactly.

I've seen nothing but praise for Holt except for a single Trump surrogate and even then he was rebuffed by the rest of his panel.

The really good interviewers are the ones that know what questions to ask so they get the answers they want (to get at the truth), and are more than happy to let the subject implode if they want to. 60 Minutes has always been a good example of this style of interviewing, among other newsmagazine shows.

 

[Supast4r]

A moderator would have stopped his meltdowns. Probably for the best. Like a real moderator probably wouldn't let him answer a question with "Yeah I said Rosie O'Donnel sucks, you know I'm right!"

Even though this debate was very one sided, I would have liked at least a little more policy discussed but who am I kidding.

 

[kevin1025]

The guy's face on the left says it all. He's seen some shit.

Both faces, really.

 

[Grief.exe]

The guy's face on the left says it all. He's seen some shit.

Both faces, really.

Melania has the thousand yard stare

 

[Aaronology]

MSNBC have absolutely savaged Trump tonight, but I suppose that's to be expected.

 

[Stevetopsy]

"Bigly"

Isn't he saying "Big league"?

 

[neoemonk]

yeah because thousand of ppl know how to rig a poll.

Just to show how easy it is, I voted in the Time poll, then opened an incognito window in Chrome and voted in it again, five times in a row. It's not difficult to automate that and you don't need thousands of people that know how. One person could script it and distribute that script for others to run and there you go, instant rigging. I was seeing about 100 votes every second hours after the debate.