C'mon the stuff at the end of Layton 6 was way worse. Some of the most amateur heavy-handed and pointlessly contrived character drama ever.
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Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (NA) |OT| A puzzling delay
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C'mon the stuff at the end of Layton 6 was way worse. Some of the most amateur heavy-handed and pointlessly contrived character drama ever.
Iunno, it was dumb but it fits the premise of the universe in that both universes are dumb and inherently silly.
MGS2 and Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy still take the cake for me.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So Chapter 4 was interesting
Positive now that
Positive now that
they're not dying in that firepit
Hmm...
both endings are plagued with completely different issues. Azran Legacy tries to force in way too many last minute plot twists that should have been slowly introduced sooner, but Layton VS Wright's ending just flat out doesn't work. While Layton VS Wright is over all the better game, I think it has the worse ending.
Only the first one I think---Curious Village.
Coffee Dog
Banned
The twist actually makes sense, and it was also the only game in the series where the "puzzle" part doesn't feel shove in.
Because you know, they're all robots who loves puzzle apparently.
Well...Layton 1 mystery comes down to
why does everyone here acting weird? and why do they likes puzzle so much?
being a robot, we can assume that all of them are programmed that way.
I thought that makes sense to me. I mean seriously, try compare that to Layton 2.
Now that was ridiculous.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Fucking
Called it
Called it
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
I greatly disagree. Maya is a charasmatic character with a bit of light humor but still has a serious side. I'm glad it's not an exaggerated high pitched voice but one more suited for a woman in her mid twenties who is moving from one stage of her life into the next. It's the best full voice character in a AA game yet. Although nothing beats the classic Wright/Edgeworth Objection!
The Awesomest
Member
Picarats don't unlock anything. I relaxed once I learned that.
BassForever
Member
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Also I did laugh in the second witch trial when
Luke and Espella rotated the Layton statue for the dramatic gesture
Easily one of the funniest parts.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Regarding the
wall portals. I'm having lots of fun imagining Shades running around with sledgehammers and drywall at all times,
When I said it feels like typical Layton though, I meant because
fake city. But I've only played the first three, so not sure if they stopped doing that in the new trilogy.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Ooo? They don't get used for anything at all?
Good to know, so I can just go through the puzzles with reckless abandon then, hahaha.
Just finished my 1st trial with Phoenix x Maya. HUGE SMILE ALL OVER MY FACE during the entire segment, especially with Maya around--really missed that girl <3
Kind of bummed out to be transported back to Layton + Luke, but good to know about those piccarats.
Just finished it. Um....wow. i'll come back with more detailed thoughts, but....wow.
One thing I will say though is...
One thing I will say though is...
Facing Layton in the courtroom was actually really, really cool. Like to the point to where I wish he'd become a prosecutor and show up in the actual AA games lol. Seeing him flex his brain similar to someone like Edgeworth was awesome. He just looked right over there.
Play the dlc episodes too. Just a silly and fun story.
A bit late to this, didn't even know it was out in Europe. Had to get it because I'm a big Phoenix Wright fan. The puzzles are okay, but it's not something I would buy this game for. Cleared the first trial, and while the voice work is uneven and Phoenix looks like a dork, it was a lot of fun just playing something new with Phoenix and Maya. It was a bit easy, but I'm not docking any points because it was the first trial.
How many trials does the game have?
How many trials does the game have?
cooljeanius
Member
So I just beat the game and got into the post-game content... you know how
? Well, apparently
... Does this mean
?
a save file that has beaten the game lets you start from one of two points: either the underground altar, or the final trial
if you continue and then save over that slot again and then quit, it no longer presents you with the two options again if you try to load it again
you have to just beat it again to get those two options again, or is there a simpler way
Absolutely! I've played through the first two, apparently there are 12, right?
Really looking forward to it, I want the gang to talk to Barnham in a non-tense environment.
Edit: just added spoiler tags in case.
deltatheta
Member
cooljeanius
Member
Crap, I missed that part... oh well...
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
So I finally beat it today.
I enjoyed the game a lot though. I'd definitely be up for another cross-over.
Totally called Darklaw being Belduke's daughter, but the ending was pretty cute. The credits made me smile.
It was disappointing with the whole twist being that the town is a research project, but I'm glad at least that there was a lot of backstory behind the witch trials and Bezella. It shocked me though that the Legendary fire was actually real, considering the fake out that they did earlier with burning the witches.
I'm also pretty bummed that they never explained the Godoor spell? Or, for that matter, why the shades were all pale, and why they could see all the machinery? Was it just because they changed the terms of their hypnosis?
It was disappointing with the whole twist being that the town is a research project, but I'm glad at least that there was a lot of backstory behind the witch trials and Bezella. It shocked me though that the Legendary fire was actually real, considering the fake out that they did earlier with burning the witches.
I'm also pretty bummed that they never explained the Godoor spell? Or, for that matter, why the shades were all pale, and why they could see all the machinery? Was it just because they changed the terms of their hypnosis?
I enjoyed the game a lot though. I'd definitely be up for another cross-over.
Dice//
Banned
The third game also goes pretty crazy.
The emotional zinger nicely distracts from the fact the game is trying to sell that some rich scientist made a "futuristic London" under the real London. Nobody caught on.... That's... a really crazy plan
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but would I be fine playing this despite only playing up to Justice for All and only playing the first Layton game?
No spoils or anything?
No spoils or anything?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Yep you're fine. It just makes references to both series, there's no need to have played them all.
You'll miss a few Trials and Tribulations references but nothing that spoils the game.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Loving the game, but holy shit, could Espella be more of a cliche japanese game female plot device character? Complete with her vague sadness from living life isolated from other people without friends that results in her daintily st-stammering all of the t-time and using...ellipses because she doesn't...know what to say. And of course she doesn't smile very often, but when Luke and Maya are up to antics and she blushes and goes "hee hee" its just so goddamn "endearing"
Spieler Eins
Member
Yeah, it's totally a shame that is the worst layton game and the worst ace attorney game.
I never saw puzzles so dull and uninspired in the series.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The puzzles aren't great, but I think they also suffer a bit alongside the more involved Ace Attorney bits
Speaking of which, someone a few posts up called this the worst Ace Attorney game? I'm having a lot more fun with these trials than I did with most of Apollo Justice
Speaking of which, someone a few posts up called this the worst Ace Attorney game? I'm having a lot more fun with these trials than I did with most of Apollo Justice
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I agree 100%. AJ was a disappointment, to put it lightly.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
The trials in AJ were fine, but I just felt the the story itself and the characters were weak* compared to the glory that is Trials and Tribulations.
It's why I like this one more; the story is actually engrossing and well-done. I mean, sure. The final twist could have been better, but the rest of it is superb.
*Except for Ema, because she's awesome. Pls bring her back.
Crash Station
Member
Now I remember why I dropped the first Layton game after like 2 hours. Never been a fan of these puzzles.
Ah well, got to the first
, so should be fun now.
Ah well, got to the first
witch trial
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Holy fuck.
The opening
Very grimdark O_______________________________________O
It's shocking that they actually let us
but... man...... Surprisingly dark.
The opening
of the 2nd trial AND the closing.
Very grimdark O_______________________________________O
It's shocking that they actually let us
see the witches getting dropped to boiling fire. I mean, at the closing, she did kill people
Dice//
Banned
That game floored by with how impressive it looked. I like 3D just fine; but the hand drawn approach has some real charm behind it.
I liked it too and enjoyed Apollo's character, Trucy, and Phoenix as this washed-up father figure. Plus the "perceive" thing was a great gimmick (certainly better than Athena's emotional "psychology").
influentzar
Member
finished~
I enjoy it more than I thought, better than Dual Destiny. What I would not give to have Emeer as a cameo witness in the future.
I enjoy it more than I thought, better than Dual Destiny. What I would not give to have Emeer as a cameo witness in the future.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Raise your hand if this is your GotY contender
Please tell me there's more of this.
JumpJeff84
Member
Bought this last night.
Haven't played an AA since Apollo Justice and haven't played a Layton game since the first one.
Hope I enjoy it...
Haven't played an AA since Apollo Justice and haven't played a Layton game since the first one.
Hope I enjoy it...
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh wow, they really went full Layton at the end didn't they? But you know, I wouldn't have it any other way
And while the puzzles were kind of weak, I have to say that the Layton style winding, labyrinthine bizarre plot worked really well as a framework for the Ace Attorney gameplay. That's honestly the best combination to come out of this, juxtaposing that gameplay style with the escalating reveals of the increasingly insane plot contrivances.
And while the puzzles were kind of weak, I have to say that the Layton style winding, labyrinthine bizarre plot worked really well as a framework for the Ace Attorney gameplay. That's honestly the best combination to come out of this, juxtaposing that gameplay style with the escalating reveals of the increasingly insane plot contrivances.
My favorite moment is the last court trial when
Maya is wearing the helmet and lab coat to hide herself. Then when it gets to the point of the story where she puts on the invisibility robe, she had this ridiculous pose in game hahaha. She was all "ta-daaaaa" like a dumbass lol.