ChosenPredator
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they should hire Steve Grand (creator of creature) I wonder how him and Molyneux would work together
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Project GODUS (Populous reinvention) Kickstarter by 22cans [Ended, £526K Funded]
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which1spink
Banned
Backed. I love this guy, no matter how much he fucks up.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Free game vs. paid game?
Thanks. I'll keep updating the OP with info right now and as it surfaces during the project.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
So they are only up to experiment 2 and already asking for half a mil?
Seems a bit weird.
Maleficence
Member
Molyneux is the worst gaming figurehead ever.
It cost a lot to make that brilliant, thoughtful, inspiring masterpiece.
Herbspiceguy
Member
After Double Fine's adventure game got Kickstartered, whenever Molyneux hit the news with his pretentious drivel, I'm thinking to myself wouldn't it be awesome if he kickstartered a Bullfrog revival...
didn't know it was free.
So people start to pledge !
Looks like it speeding up. Current pledge/minute indicate that this will be funded in 24 hours.
Steve Grand has his own work now:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1508284443/grandroids-real-artificial-life-on-your-pc
http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Grandroids
(Just in case you didn't know, sorry if you did).
Where does it say Godus will be free? I skimmed the kickstarter and didn't see any mention of it.
I want to believe.
Kickstarter fatigue has set in on me, but dammit, I think I will give it one last go... (till 2013)
Populous on SNES (yeah, maybe not a great version in retrospect but my 13yo self didn't know any different when it came out) changed me. I need a modern Populous that uses all the best PC tech on my computer asap.
Kickstarter fatigue has set in on me, but dammit, I think I will give it one last go... (till 2013)
Populous on SNES (yeah, maybe not a great version in retrospect but my 13yo self didn't know any different when it came out) changed me. I need a modern Populous that uses all the best PC tech on my computer asap.
grimshawish
Banned
Came in to say don't give this maniac any of your money unless he goes to therapy first.
Leaving thinking this sounds alright...
Leaving thinking this sounds alright...
ColonelSkills
Member
This would be like giving George Lucas money to create another Star Wars prequel.
They don't require the money and the end product will likely be complete shit.
They don't require the money and the end product will likely be complete shit.
mhh don´t know if it will use the best tech :/
"GODUS will be developed for the PC and Mobile devices, we hope to be able to add more platforms as our Kickstarter campaign progresses."
Mobile Devices mhh....
Broder Salsa
Banned
Peter you are rich enough to fund that yourself. 
Do want though... Well maybe, the mobile device mention makes me nervous it will be more dumbed down shit, the obsession with making fable as easy and dumb as possible was sad enough to see.
Do want though... Well maybe, the mobile device mention makes me nervous it will be more dumbed down shit, the obsession with making fable as easy and dumb as possible was sad enough to see.
Yeah look at his track record for the past decade, Molyneux is focusing squarely on simple, casual games
What is worse about Peter Molyneux ?
Crazy dudes that go in every thread connected with him because he shared vision with people when he was developing games and in the end he had to make cuts to his vision to deliver very good games.
smh
Ok, well how do you intend to make good on the promised features in this game given Peters' penchant for over promising and under delivering? It's fine when we get to read reviews when the game comes out and see if the game has lived up to the promises before we buy. This time though you're asking for money based on those promises up front and I think it would be fair if you at least addressed these concerns.
"Grand vision", what grand vision? The man who created Populous (he coded it himself you know) can't deliver on a retake of its own game?
There is nothing crazy or overambitious in the KS aside of the slide, and the "change of the nature of gaming" stuff is not for Godus, it´s like the "final objective of 22 cans".
The problem is that his marketing for the games he makes never lives up to what is released.
If you buy a Molyneux game after it comes out and there are reviews and community feedback and you know what you're getting into, fine. Giving him money up front based on nothing more than his say-so is insanity given the way he's behaved.
Yup, pretty much my thoughts on it too
Well, in this case I'd say that the promised Populous reimagining could easily turn out to be grossly oversimplified and full of microtransactions. The mobile focus makes that one pretty easy.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
You make it sound inevitable, this game doesn't have to go that way at all.
"Estimated delivery: Sept 2013"
Well, no way in hell we're getting a game of the production value of Civ V or Sim City 5, which is what I feel we truly deserve as a Populous/B&W successor... but I'm willing to take a gamble and hope it's about half as good as those. I'd still be satisfied.
Well, no way in hell we're getting a game of the production value of Civ V or Sim City 5, which is what I feel we truly deserve as a Populous/B&W successor... but I'm willing to take a gamble and hope it's about half as good as those. I'd still be satisfied.
I have been buying Peter Molyneux games since Populous. I have every single game with his name on it and I can say without doubt that few developers have been so consistent in the quality and interest of his games.
Tell me, what games of him have you bought? I have curiosity to know why do you feel so ripped off.
Because every mobile game is oversimplified and full of microtransactions.
It probably helps that they will do with less graphical jazz, less units, less maths and no history to follow through. In fact I bet it's going to be more akin to a small iPad game than anything Civ 5 has going on it
Won't be my first Kickstarter to back but I really hope he gets to deliver. Just for the sake of anyone at 22 Cans I hope this doesn't turn to be one more badge of BS against him, as pretty much everything from since B&W has been.
Backed this without even reading the description, I grew up playing Populous, Themepark, Syndicate and Dungeon Keeper - before the EA buyout Bullfrog was my favourite developer and they never once disappointed me. It always saddens me somewhat when the younger generation of gamers slag him off for his recent mis-steps, probably not realizing this is the guy who created an entire genre of games.
Johnlenham
Member
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
^ This.
Bullfrog games still stand as some of the best ever, in my opinion. Legions of gamers from that generation will follow your lead and back this based on that alone.
A few questions;
How much input will backers have on design and development changes etc?
The target goal of £450,000 ($710,000ish) is very high and not many KS projects make that kind of money. Do you have plans to add more reward tiers? (£120, £150, £200 etc etc)
Targeting mobile devices understandably is making many cautious given the nature of the genre being better suited to PC. How do you plan to make it so that the PC version won't be outright hampered by the limited capabilities of a phone?
Bullfrog was also my favourite developer (you forgot to mention Magic Carpet), but his "recent mis-steps" must account for almost half of his career at this point. Beginning with Black & White, his output has been consistently mediocre at best. I don't blame people for not believing he still has it in him.
SamVT i have a question. Is it really will be on mobile devices ?
My point is that if you want to be succesfull on kickstarter you should try to focus on PC mainly.
Adding mobile platform is like saying this game will be gutted to put this on phones.
It is mayor complain in my opinion. Sure porting it to mobile phones after kickstarter is good idea but saying it will be from get go on mobile is like saying we will do worse job.
And you felt so bad that you keep coming to his threads to rise awareness that he lied to you.
No one who played his games care about such things as you said. He delivered good games in the end with few of them being classics. Also he always tried and delivered innovative gameplay things in his games.
CecilRousso
Member
Fable 1 was a great game with great ideas. So was Black&White. I think his main problem was that he tried to listen to much about the feedback for the sequels, and the compromises he tried to do hurt those games.
That's absolutely true. I guess I meant that I haven't seen what 22cans in particular is capable of, even if Molyneux is behind this, and even if they have the history they do. If they had stuff out other than Curiosity (which seems pretty dull to me) I'd be less inclined to shrug it off so easily I guess. I too loved some of the Bullfrog stuff, even some of their Lionhead output, but that feels like it was centuries ago.
Populous was one om my favourite games when i was "young" would really like to see a reinvention for it. And while Molyneux gets a lot of flak here, he's is still a good developer with good ideas. Needs better execution.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I would kickstart Molydeux, not Molyneux.
SteveWinwood
Member
I can't trust him.
Kickstarters are based on trust.
I will not participate in this kickstarter.
Kickstarters are based on trust.
I will not participate in this kickstarter.
That's just an opinion.
Black & White was fantastic, if bugged. The Movies was great, Fable is loved by many people.
That's another opinion.