Protesting the Inauguration of Donald Trump

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Just made me crack up while waiting for coffee. Needed that.
 
So people really think protests accomplish nothing? It's a pretty easy formula...

Make a big public demonstration about a point of view, get covered by the media (all media), which spreads the message of that protest to lots of people = more people talking about issue than before = increased likelihood of something changing.

Even at a basic level, "there is a point". Not to mention history has proven it effective.

Also, seriously, The Donald is blatantly egregious.

I'm finding that a lot of these "protesting does nothing" posters are either strong conservatives that will always defend their party, trolls, or non-US individuals sharing their view while having no context of the changes made through protests in the US.

I guess so, friend. So what was the percentage I was getting wrong, though? That one I'm still confused about.

I'm not your friend, pal.
 
This.

He has been democratically elected, Americans have to respect that and try to win back in four years if they're not happy with him.


I wonder what the reaction would have been, had Ms. Clinton won the election and republicans decided to protest.

don't have to respect shit about this at all
 
I've been thinking, can we get the hashtag #ResignNow trending?

I know Trump has no shame, but if we can make all of his followers ashamed at the fact that most of the nation thinks he should resign, perhaps we can get somewhere.

This could also apply to members of his cabinet that don't have egos as big as his.
 
I've been thinking, can we get the hashtag #ResignNow trending?

I know Trump has no shame, but if we can make all of his followers ashamed at the fact that most of the nation thinks he should resign, perhaps we can get somewhere.

This could also apply to members of his cabinet that don't have egos as big as his.

Any form of protest is better than just RTing tweets and thinking you're making a difference.

An interesting 1 2 combo of posts here
 
I'm finding that a lot of these "protesting does nothing" posters are either strong conservatives that will always defend their party, trolls, or non-US individuals sharing their view while having no context of the changes made through protests in the US.



I'm not your friend, pal.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, many protests are organized poorly and don't accomplish much. Occupy Wall Street for example. Also, the arguement that volunteering is a better use of time and energy could be argued (though IMO nobody here has made a solid case).

But that is a different topic. And to what I think most people realize, the existence of these counter points don't invalidate the act of protesting.
 
She asked the same thing.
Then, I said "Whats the point of it, besides the obvious?"
And she said something like "It will show Representatives that the people want Trump gone", which I disagreed with and I said "They already know that. He'll impeach himself pretty much, we can sit easy." and it went from there.

I'll probably end up going with her haha

Time to look for a new girlfriend.
 
Just to play Devil's Advocate, many protests are organized poorly and don't accomplish much. Occupy Wall Street for example. Also, the arguement that volunteering is a better use of time and energy could be argued (though IMO nobody here has made a solid case).

But that is a different topic. And to what I think most people realize, the existence of these counter points don't invalidate the act of protesting.

I think we have enough Devil's advocates in here. Everybody defending Trump is a devil's advocate seeing as how I have yet to see anybody admit they support Trump or his policies, it's always " I don't even like Trump, but" followed by protesting is useless, respect the office, but had Hillary won, go volunteer, yadda ydda yadda...

You're better off volunteering is one of the worst examples of this. Stop posting on gaf then, you're wasting your time when you could be saving the world. All of it, what it comes down to is trying to shutdown the conversation while trying to come off as if you're better than it all. And it's usually from people that's don't live in the US which I still can't quite figure out why other than this is entertainment to them, or they secretly want the US to fall damn hard.
 
That is pretty much my thought on this. Wearing black clothing, deciding to take a nap during his inauguration and not watching...Is that really a protest?

Make his television ratings go straight into the gutter.

Future textbooks will say it was the least watched inauguration of all time. Even better, Trump gets inaugurated and the audience is completely empty. No one there to watch but him and a few diehard supporters.
 
Just to play Devil's Advocate, many protests are organized poorly and don't accomplish much. Occupy Wall Street for example. Also, the arguement that volunteering is a better use of time and energy could be argued (though IMO nobody here has made a solid case).

But that is a different topic. And to what I think most people realize, the existence of these counter points don't invalidate the act of protesting.

And I would argue that Occupy Wall St gave exposure to the wealth inequality in the nation and allowed someone like Bernie Sanders to become so popular. He did not start at 0. Many people already heard the arguments of wealth inequality and Bernie picked up the conversation where Occupy Wall St ended.

You remember Occupy Wall St. If there are indeed many protests, that may or may not be poorly organized, then Occupy Wall St did it job to have you remember its name and what it stood for.

I could also argue that a better use of time and energy is to campaign and become a politician.. but then it wouldn't really add anything to this discussion [which you noted]
 
Make his television ratings go straight into the gutter.

Future textbooks will say it was the least watched inauguration of all time.
It would be terrific if all the news at night was about how he had abysmal attendance numbers and abysmal TV ratings, right after a president that he hated had broken records everywhere.
 
So people really think protests accomplish nothing? It's a pretty easy formula...

Make a big public demonstration about a point of view, get covered by the media (all media), which spreads the message of that protest to lots of people = more people talking about issue than before = increased likelihood of something changing.

Even at a basic level, "there is a point". Not to mention history has proven it effective.

Also, seriously, The Donald is blatantly egregious.

History has proven riots are effective. Protests rarely accomplish anything under authoritarian governments other then get the protesters arrested.
 
I guess so, friend. So what was the percentage I was getting wrong, though? That one I'm still confused about.
So if 40-some% of eligible voters did not vote, and Hillary received three million more votes than Trump did...that equates to 50% of Americans voting for Trump? 🤔
 
I think the pushback on people being "Devil's advocates" will be in full force throughout these next few years.

So if 40-some% of eligible voters did not vote, and Hillary received three million more votes than Trump did...that equates to 50% of Americans voting for Trump? ��

I guess someone had to help the helpless
 
I always say I won't watch something related to trump but I always do. Mainly because I look forward to what stupid shit he will say or do. The last press conference he had was gold. Lol.
 
Dude on my Facebook warns those attending inauguration to be careful, as "leftists are historically prone to violence".
 
I always say I won't watch something related to trump but I always do. Mainly because I look forward to what stupid shit he will say or do. The last press conference he had was gold. Lol.

The last speech I watched of Trumps was that Dinner where you roast others. Other than two good jokes, it was completely cringe worthy. He turned fun into cringe lightning quick. He's like a car wreck you can't turn your head away from. What embarrassing thing will he say next?

You know for me, the worst thing will be watching his kids there. These people have had everything handed to them, they have lived as capitalist royalty, and now they get to be in the Whitehouse. Their smug looks will make me feel ill. The coronation is complete. It really makes me sad what this country has become and what it values.
 
I don't know how long the protests will be going on for, but I'll be at work most of the day.
I really wish I could join the protests.

In the meantime, here is a great comic for the gaffers who tell us we should respect Donald Trump:
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I am not against protesting, but using a broad brush to paint people who voted (or didn't) for Trump only increase the differences.
 
I don't know how long the protests will be going on for, but I'll be at work most of the day.
I really wish I could join the protests.

In the meantime, here is a great comic for the gaffers who tell us we should respect Donald Trump:
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There's a subtle difference between respecting him and accepting he's going to be your president.
 
I think we all know that Donald Trump is going to be every American's president. The people saying things like "he's not my president" it's a personal way of thinking for them. They can have it. It's not literal. I know it rubs some of you the wrong way though I'm sure you won't admit why, but they can have that.

Protesting is not about stopping Trump from being president. He will be. It's not about disrespecting the office. It's about disrespecting the man, and yes, they can have that too.
 
I think we all know that Donald Trump is going to be every American's president. The people saying things like "he's not my president" it's a personal way of thinking for them. They can have it. It's not literal. I know it rubs some of you the wrong way though I'm sure you won't admit why, but they can have that.

Protesting is not about stopping Trump from being president. He will be. It's not about disrespecting the office. It's about disrespecting the man, and yes, they can have that too.

Quoting because this is the truth. Absolutely.
 
You know some people did this when President Obama was elected too?
The guy won the election, you may not like him but I would have expected you to honour the office of the President as a patriot (even if just for the inauguration).

Wouldn't want to hurt your delicate sensibilities.

You don't have to accept his positions quietly. He's president, yes, but you don't have to like what he stands for and what his plans are. There's nothing wrong with Protesting.
 
...and an even subtler difference between accepting he's going to be president and voicing your dissatisfaction with his policies and cabinet picks.

...and even more subtle than that is the difference between 1) rightfully voicing your dissatisfaction and concerns, and 2) demonstrating for Trump to be impeached so that someone else can take his place as president, which is hilarious.
 
I hope these protests prove to be a galvanizing moment for millenials. We have the power to take over this country if only we showed up to vote. Let's rally behind progressive voices for the next 4 years and crush the far right lunatics in the GOP in 2018 and 2020.

The Democratic party is ours if we want it, let's seize it and make it our own just as the Tea Party movement did with the GOP.
 
You know some people did this when President Obama was elected too?

The guy won the election, you may not like him but I would have expected you to honour the office of the President as a patriot (even if just for the inauguration).

Honestly, regardless of candidate or party I expect every president for the foreseeable future to have their inauguration protested on some scale. I wouldn't begrudge any American that right. The next Democratic president will be protested. The next Republican after Trump will be protested. That's just where we are as a country.

Having said that, so much of the protest against Obama's inauguration and the Tea Party movement that resulted from it was a reactionary movement against the first black president. I think there's a bit of solid foundation for people mobilizing against Trump given everything we know about the man from his campaign to his period simply as president-elect to give the protests validity.
 
I don't believe any person chastising protest at this event is a reasonable person who doesn't support Trump. You are without a doubt in support of this man or the party in some form and I can't take you seriously.

If anyone believes that Trump was elected 100% fairly (ignoring gerrymandering and how that gives him a Republican legislative branch, barriers that have been put up against voting rights, and an illogical EC system) and is without a doubt fit (as in, meets the minimum expectations to run the country, ignoring his child-like temperament, ignorance of accepted facts, and being not trusted to Tweet without supervision at one point)

...then I could see how you would look down on Inauguration supporters.
 
You know some people did this when President Obama was elected too?
Almost all of the protests against Barack Obama were because fuckwits were convinced that he, as a black person, was secretly a Muslim Kenyan who was going to turn the US into a socialist Hellhole where Sharia law was enacted.

People will be protesting Trump because he is a bigot who called for the assassination of his opponent, has literal white supremacists in his staff, has openly admitted to sexual assault, and, to be frank, has absolutely no idea how to act presidential at all.

After all, Obama didn't throw hissy-fits on Twitter because people said mean things about him.
 
And you think this is the American way of doing things?
And then USA goes around the world preaching democracy but its citizens can't even act graciously at the inauguration?

The big protest is actually scheduled for the day after inauguration on Saturday.
 
You win back by protesting. Protesting is the clatayst for organizing political opposition and better political positioning in future elections. You use the energy from protests and transfer it to more long term goals but you still need protests to let people know they aren't alone in their anger and as a means for fellow activists to meet for the first time or first time activists to come out of the closet and be more engaged in the future.

Yep.

How do you think the TEA party eventually flipped both Houses, ousted Eric Cantor (and pushed out Boehner) and eventually "won" the presidency?

By turning anger and protests into votes. Votes that started at the low level.
 
I'm finding that a lot of these "protesting does nothing" posters are either strong conservatives that will always defend their party, trolls, or non-US individuals sharing their view while having no context of the changes made through protests in the US.



I'm not your friend, pal.

Oh stop it with the whole "if you aren't with me, you're clearly a troll/conservative" rhetoric. You can't discuss anything on Gaf anymore without being labeled as such. These witch hunts have got to stop. The obvious trolls sure but, not everyone who doesn't share your view is a troll.

One of the lowest points and the turning point on Iraq was a flash protest against Bush by an Iraq veteran mom. They do matter and can turn opinions.

You actually have a good point. I did forget about that. My only concern is none of these protesters are going to vote. . I'm very afraid of what a two term Trump could do. Specially if they win the House in 2019. A one term Trump doesn't make me lose sleep but,a two term Trump and you can say goodbye to the Democratic party.

Yep.

How do you think the TEA party eventually flipped both Houses, ousted Eric Cantor (and pushed out Boehner) and eventually "won" the presidency?

By turning anger and protests into votes. Votes that started at the low level.

Alrite, you've convinced me. Just please turn your anger towards local elections too. We can't give Trump or the Republican party even an inch. We have to fight.
 
Heh, just got an internal memo from my company that there is a planned blockade across the entire US/Mexican Border tomorrow to avoid any conflicts with protestors.
 
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