All of the cities currently featuring protesting voted for Clinton, who also won the popular vote nationwide.
Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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All of the cities currently featuring protesting voted for Clinton, who also won the popular vote nationwide.
Hierophant
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"Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?
They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among usthey are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.
And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.
- Hunter S. Thompson
They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among usthey are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis.
And I am too old to worry about whether they like it or not. Fuck them.
- Hunter S. Thompson
Clinton ground game in action. All those printed signs and flags!!! Wow they act quickly. How they get everything printed and flag made so fast?
OMG please be true.....
OMG please be true.....
Dubbedinenglish
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More importantly they got the popular vote but are now shut out of the legislative process.
gamechanger87
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Thank you. All states have very different circumstances. If it was popular vote, there is minimal reason to do anything other than the coasts and Texas. People in CA have different concerns than OH.
They should march to the Trump counties.
a large portion of it is the fear. We all cant forget that most people protesting now are probably reasonable people that must have expected October surprises from everywhere would surely sink Trump, as people have been nuked for far less, and the polls all indicated a solid win. So yeah bunch of busy people probably got complacent and figured no way in hell this guy was gonna win, simply because they couldnt comprehend it, just like me, which is why everyone is shocked and getting madder by the day now.
Apologies to you.
Agreed, now I need a list of addresses.
Jesus tap dancing christ you are all coming out of the woodwork today.
brochiller
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I'm just as disappointed with the outcome as anybody. But usually protests have a particular outcome in mind. I'm not sure what the end game is by protesting the election results. Unless they're just protesting his positions and bigotry, which may be the case.
DontBeThatGuy
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50 million voters co-signed this shit. Disgust.
A Link to the Past
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『Inaba Resident』;223885038 said:
To be fair, no one expected that there would be a billionaire businessman president to protest.
Yes and I am sure the Democrats will try to do the same thing now. But at this point the Democrats has lost so much mind share in the midwest they don't have a lot of options and it's the parties fault. They should have seen what trump was doing and tried to reassure them that Hillary will try to bring more jobs back to them instead of signing more trade agreements. The Dems have a problem with voter motivation as well President Obama was pretty much solely responsible for his own popularity.
Banana Aeon
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I've always been against democracy, but I'm not an anarchist.
Vestal
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Well what you are seeing now I hope is the spark that lights a fire for Liberals and Democrats.
Fam. Fam. Hillary won the popular vote. The majority of the country wanted her. And he still won. There's definitely something anti-democratic going on, but it isn't the protests.
Yeah, not really rocket science. If you have the drive to go out and protest, you have the drive to go and vote.
smokeandmirrors
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remember you can only protest when it's convenient for other people.
Seattle.
This, all day every day.
Trump and his ilk are going to try and pull a whole lot of terrible shit and people need to get out and show they won't accept it laying down. Even if it just means gathering in massive crowds and voicing our displeasure constantly. There might not be a whole lot that can be done right now against him directly but we need to keep people's eyes and minds on what his administration tries to do and build a momentum for 2018 and 2020 at the very least.
As well as just make Trump's life hell. If he want's to open up libel laws and he wants to sue anyone who slights him then we need to do everything under the sun to shit all over that orange turd and rile his crappy toupee.
NyMartin90
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The revenge tactics and emotional passion disregarding logic in this thread is beyond me.
When law enforcement attempts to restore normalcy, demonstrating people will escalate this by possibly fighting back leading to more violence.
Is this what people want after an election? Anarchy? Violence?
Literally people walking through running highways disrupting traffic, and now some of us are saying protesters should go into areas of the opposite political camp to instigate violence.
I hoped that Obama's words this morning might calm people and bring us together.
st1nk nuts
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Did I seriously just hear a guy on CNN just say the protesters weren't out yesterday to vote because the media said Hillary was going to win? LOL.
smokeandmirrors
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uh prior anti-trump protests?
fight racism signs aren't exactly new.
i mean take two seconds to actually think instead of spouting off garbage.
people dont want to come together. They want to fight....
MightyHedgehog
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Why is it that exercising the first amendment rights, particularly in terms of public assembly, so often viewed as negative? Living under conservative rule is precisely what will grow and awaken the opposition, especially when the leader is a demagogue. Sadly, I think a fair amount of those angry enough to protest the election results probably didn't feel it was necessary to vote. Hopefully, we can wake up in time for elections two and four years from now.
I hope so but it will require the Dems to actually start reaching out to different voters. I wish our country was diverse enough to give minorities more representation but at a certain point they do need to appeal to uneducated whites. Alternatively they need a candidate that is not a wet noodle when it comes to mid western popularity. They needed an outsider candidate to go against the outsider candidate.
chromatic9
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This two term thing is not good if you don't have the candidates. People had to pick their poison. Obama would beat these two no problem. Obama is the right person I feel. Forget all this EC after the fact. The right person for these times is already there.
Vestal
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Look what turning the other cheek did for us for 8 fucking years. NOTHING. WE GOT NOTHING OUT OF 8 YEARS of Obama as President. Everything he stood for will be lost come January. Why? Because we simply tried to be civil about it, tried to work with the Rs, didn't throw out the filibuster... Tried to compromise.. We got PLAYED.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Much much more is at stake than in 2008. In 2008 people were pissy their taxes may go up or that we *gasp* become more environmentally friendly or wrongfully thought Obama was going to sneak into their houses and take their guns away. Sound familiar?
This man wants to take away health care from millions of people and replace it with something...better?, remove DACA from millions and thus their ability to hold a job, deport millions of people, dissolve EPA, tear up trade deals, reverse Roe v Wade, defund planned parenthood, and even was running at one point on changing the first amendment to make it easier to "protect" yourself from libel. And that isn't even the start of it all. So you will have to excuse people for being upset.
The nightmare of it is that Republicans have full control so it really doesn't matter who is president so long as he is Republican. Impeach Trump for Trump U, great. Now enjoy Pence. That's why these protests are so key. People's voices need to be heard. Just because republicans control all levers of government doesn't mean they should impose their will on the majority of the population without their say. Complacency got us to this point and it would be foolish to continue to be complacent.
Inciting violence is absolutely wrong but don't give us the "bring us together bullshit" it ain't going to work nor should it anymore.
B
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Wait till Trump destroys obamacare because it is watered down piece of crap that I am sure even Obama isn't proud of at this point Yet, people will protest that action because they do not know any better.
When he starts killing families of terrorists, the blood is on your hands.
When he starts stifling the first Amendment, you do not get to cry about it.
When he creates a registry of Muslims, you will just watch.
When he starts jailing political opponents, hey at least you might get to walk.
Do you want sexual assault victims terrified of the normalization of rape culture, immigrants in fear of deportation, and all minorites to just lay down and accept this? Who are you to tell those people what they should do?
Why are you equating protesting with violence?
Fueled System
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It's a system the Democrats agreed to...
It wasn't a majority. Even if we were a direct democracy we would have had a runoff and Trump probably would have still won. Hillary lost some votes to 3rd parties but given the choice most Libertarian voters probably would have gone with Trump. Which would have given him the win.
Votes in the Electoral college are determined by adding the state's number of Representatives (determined proportionally by population but with a minimum of one) to its number of Senators (always two per state). This means that low-population states have a significant advantage in number of electors relative to population over large-population states.
Now, I don't mind the US Senate being structured the way it is. It has worked out for this country pretty well so far on the whole. However, the way the electoral college is currently structured seems redundant with the Senate already protecting the interests of the smaller states. After all, the Senate is pretty important.
The original idea behind the electoral college is that the voters would pick people whom they trusted. In turn, the electors would decide the President based on their own judgement. That system is dead. Right now, we have a chimera of a system that isn't serving the purpise designed by the authors of the constitution, but neither is it a complete switch to direct democracy. It is halfway between those things. The system was changed in the past to make it more directly democratic, but the will has never been there to change it completely.
Dubbedinenglish
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When you threaten and take people's rights they will stand up. If we aren't treated equally then we cannot be united.
HomerSimpson-Man
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This kind of anger needs to be sustained and show up in the damn mid-terms in 2018. The lack of empathy of Dems not voting this cycle cost this country; Romney had more votes than either Clinton or Trump, just think about that. Republicans unified in the birth of the Tea Party and obstructionist in Congress, Democrat's time to really wake the hell up and unify more than ever, people's rights are going to be trampled worse than before.
foxuzamaki
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Never
smokeandmirrors
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they secretly hate democracy and other people exercising their rights. That's only for them and only when THEY approve.
I've already posted this somewhere else but talk of unity rings hollow when the winner's campaign platform practically ran on divisiveness and xenophobia. This crosses over with the other thread but how can minorities just be expected to fall in line now? Or women who are expected to lose fundamental rights?
OrbitalBeard
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Obamacare is horribly flawed program....but it did help a lot of people who were unable to receive care beforehand.
So, I will fully understand those protests and I hope you can empathize with them as well.
It's not rigged.
Elections like last night show the obvious flaw in the Electoral College system for sure....but it's not rigged.
I feel it needs some reform though.
Robot Pants
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Dudes taken this thing past the 4th wall
biggersmaller
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Let me help you.
It really fucking sucks, really fucking sucks when a majority of the country votes for a DFL candidate and not a single branch of government represents them.
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