The same threads are allowed for Gamepass.EviLore how come we can have these threads for PS Now but they're banned for Gamepass?
PS Now Games for July - Judgment, RDR2, God of War & Nioh 2
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MOTM
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Okay thanks. Just double checking, I guess there was a lot of confusion back at the time and I missed it.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Witcher is on it? When did that happen? Maybe I will renew. They need another 25% off sale!
SuperSaiyanWithDreads
Banned
You wish
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I agree, especially because of how cost-effective it is. You get one year of PS Now for just $60. $45 if you get it via an official sale on PSN or around $35 if you get the code from other sources. That's fantastic value.
My only complaint is that there is a lot of overlap b/w PS Now games and PS+ games. So for someone who has both subscriptions don't get any benefit, but instead lose out on a few games every year. If they fix this issue, I will find even more value. ~$80 / year (or $6.5 p/m) for both subscriptions, and you get 7-10 games every months.
Ozrimandias
Member
It's a shame that PS Now is only available in a couple of countries.
drhankmccoyphd
Member
Do they ever run deals on the year sub for psnow? I've been eying it for a long time
Aenima
Member
All PS4 games can be downloaded. You only need to stream PS3 games.
Agent X
Member
They do give deals a few times a year. I think they had one a few weeks ago. They also usually do one in late November or early December.
Yselacrey00
Banned
What do you mean? Gamepass doesnt?
FranXico
Member
You need Ultimate, which is Gamepass bundled with Live Gold.
f2p games are now always playable online, of course.
vivftp
Member
They had 25% off last month on PSN.
Right now if you're in North America you can get it for a discount on CD Keys.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Oh ok. And Playstation doesnt asks you for PS plus?
I've never tought about that. I wouldnt think someone would pay for PS Now and not for PS plus. I can see people paying only for gamepass though so that's a huge red flag.
FranXico
Member
Games that you are streaming or have downloaded through PSNow won't require Plus.
If you want to play other (non f2p) games outside Now online, those will require Plus.
Like I said, a lot of people are paying for Gamepass Ultimate, so they actually are paying for Gamepass and Gold. If you want to use Gamepass on PC only, don't take Ultimate.
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T-Cake
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That's a bonus that I had forgotten about, so well done Sony on that.
JoeBudden
Member
People really overstate the "launching day 1 on Game Pass" narrative. This literally doesn't matter until next year, at the very minimum, outside Forza Horizon 5. Halo is already going F2P. The big third party players like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Far Cry, etc are not launching on Game Pass either.
So, you're saying I should be excited to pay double the yearly fee, for a library that's half the size of the PS Now library, so I can get Outriders quality level games when they launch? Who cares about about the latest on PS Now like God of War, RDR2, Nioh 2, or old PS Now stuff like the The entire Uncharted franchise, when future smash hits like The Ascent and Psychonauts 2 are launching day 1 on Game Pass?
Lmao you guys are ridiculous. Let PS Now subscribers be happy without these unsolicited service comparisons. Both of these services are nothing like you guys claim in your daily online debates.
So, you're saying I should be excited to pay double the yearly fee, for a library that's half the size of the PS Now library, so I can get Outriders quality level games when they launch? Who cares about about the latest on PS Now like God of War, RDR2, Nioh 2, or old PS Now stuff like the The entire Uncharted franchise, when future smash hits like The Ascent and Psychonauts 2 are launching day 1 on Game Pass?
Lmao you guys are ridiculous. Let PS Now subscribers be happy without these unsolicited service comparisons. Both of these services are nothing like you guys claim in your daily online debates.
Schmick
Member
I love PS Now and cannot work out the issues people have with it but... these are the games coming to GP day one (that we know off) slated for this year.
Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Alliance – June 22
The Ascent – July 29
Hades – August 13
Twelve Minutes – August 19
Psychonauts 2 – August 25
Aragami 2 – September 17
Sable – September 23
Back 4 Blood – October 8
Age of Empires IV – October 28
Forza Horizon 5 – November 9
Shredders – December 2021
The Gunk – Fall 2021
Anacrusis – Fall 2021
Halo Infinite – Holiday 2021
Scorn – 2021
Hello Neighbor 2 – 2021
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
There is always one during the June Days of Play sale. I renewed my sub then. Black Friday / Cyber Monday is also a pretty safe bet. There could also be a deal or two in the meantime.
JoeBudden
Member
... And, outside Forza Horizon 5, none of those are really worth doubled the subscription price and half the library. I would include Halo if it wasn't F2P.
I should be clear though. I'm not interested in either service or console warring in general, I just think all the debate around these services disingenuous.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
For the paupers gamers.
Chukhopops
Member
It's been a long time since PSNow had "double the library" and Halo SP isn't free to play. No need to make things up, plus everyone is saying that it's a good month for PSNow.
JoeBudden
Member
No one's making shit up. Count the games yourself if you don't believe me. I'm not interested in console war bullshit.
And, Halo hasn't had a worthwhile campaign for a few games now. Multiplayer has always been the main draw for the franchise. This is all coming from a Halo stan.
megreotsugua
Banned
Since you mentioned casual gamers, I think Sony should target the 1 billion casuals through a combination of games, movies, and shows.
It should not be a gamepass (20M) competitor but a netflix (300M), hbo max (45M), disney+ (100M) competitor. Casual market drawfs the gaming enthusiast market.
Disney got 80M subs in just a year. That's how big that market is. Sony has thousands of movie IPs old and new. They have successful shows they sell to TV and streaming services. They don't even have to put movies there day 1 so it won't cannibalize their theater sales. A few exclusive shows would do.
I hope you're right. They should do marketing blitz with it too like Netflix is doing.
If they market the service towards the casuals, they don't have to worry about releasing games day 1.
But if they are still interested in a more gamer-centric service, they should build that on top of the already successful PS+.
So two services for two different markets: a more robust PS+ for the gamers, a entertainment all-in-one PSNow or whatever name it ends up having for the casuals.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Seems like its getting some solid games. Pretty much all last gen but still solid. If most can be downloaded I may have to try the service out someday.
Chukhopops
Member
PSNow: 855 as of today, over half of which (438) is streaming only.
GamePass: 456 as of two months ago
I'll let you do the math. The Halo thing is just your opinion as a """""Halo stan""""".
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
All PS4 and PS2 games on there can be downloaded. PS3 games are stream only.
megreotsugua
Banned
I hope you still buy games. PS+ and PSNow are just side dishes considering their price.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Absolutely. I do support developers that make enjoyable gaming experiences. I've already played and finished Hades on my gaming PC, but I will buy it on day one on PlayStation. Bought Returnal and Ratchet & Clank at $70 because I wanted to support these developers for their great work.
JoeBudden
Member
Duchess
Member
I guess you meant PS Now, not PS Plus?
And, yes, PS Now games can have expiry dates. Some games are only on the service for a limited time, while others are "on-going access", which generally means they have no expiration date.
Oh misread as ps plus
Then it makes sense i guess (disregarding the naming confusion with plus AND now)
FunkMiller
Banned
That would be if they combined PS Plus and PS Now into a single service at a competitive price.
That's pretty much the only way I see them competing with and beating GamePass.
FranXico
Member
They usually say for how long games are available upfront when they announce them.
FranXico
Member
For what is worth, you don't need Plus to play PSNow games online. Good enough of a combo?
FunkMiller
Banned
Nope. Now needs a major overhaul. It's just not worth it on its own.
FranXico
Member
Got it, needs relentless grass roots viral marketing.
But have you heard of PS Now?
Kerotan
Member
Australia is fucking massive. It's probably hard to get it set up right. Only 20M people spread out over a continent.
Yselacrey00
Banned
I can't believe Microsoft is charging for multiplayer with gamepass. What the fuck? With Xbox live Gold you would sort of understand that you aren't only paying for MP, you're paying for games with gold, infrastructure, etc. You would think paying for gamepass would include the same basic functionality except for games with gold.
That's such a dick move from Microsoft. I was actually going to buy an Xbox for gamepass lol
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I know it's tempting console war fodder to compare PSNow and GP, but they don't really have the same goal in mind despite sharing similarities. Anyway, CDKeys has a year of PSNow for $43. iirc it was $45 during Black Friday from Sony directly. Once the new games go live on PSNow PC I'll probably do the CDkeys deal. It worked pretty good for me even before they updated it.
MScarpa
Member
It's called Game Pass. Competition is good for us all.
Agent X
Member
I've seen other people suggest this as well.
For starters, what would you consider a "competitive price" for the combo? As I and others have pointed out already, one year of PS Plus ($59.99) and one year of PS Now (also $59.99) costs approximately the same as one year of regular Xbox Game Pass (not Ultimate). If you think about it, the PS Plus and PS Now combo is pretty much the equivalent of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, at the price of "non-Ultimate" Xbox Game Pass.
I also don't know why so many people are so keen for Sony to merge PS Plus and PS Now. There isn't much to be gained by combining the two. A forced combination would almost certainly anger people who only want one service and not both. For those customers, this would act as a price increase (double the cost) for features that they might not want.
An analogous scenario on the Microsoft side of things would be if they ceased to offer standalone Xbox Live Gold and standalone Xbox Game Pass, and just told existing customers to either pay the full $180/year for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, or take a hike and let their accounts expire. All or nothing. Do you think that would be a wise decision?
Now, if Sony were to offer some sort of "bundle discount", where subscribers could pay a reduced price for both services (say, $100/year for PS Plus and PS Now together, as opposed to the current $120/year separately), then I would be on board with that. But, I see no need and no benefit to merging them.
FunkMiller
Banned
Have to get decent internet first. It's fucking woeful. One of the worst in the world. The only good connection I've ever had was in Sydney with Optus, and that was far from perfect. Australia is the third world internet-wise.
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