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[Hurricane_Chris]

*OBJECTION*

Go read the SCEI's page. They quote PS3 specs in multiple places and all of them contradict this rumor. Then go check out the specs of every Blu-Ray capable device in existance. Then listen to and watch Howard Stringer's presentation at CEATEC....

Why would anyone post something like this and why would any one be inclined to think it's anything other than 100% BS...

 

[Legal Step]

do they think they are microsoft or something...damn this rush to kill this generation so soon...

Well xbox360 will be fun for the next 3 years or new console whichever comes first.

 

[krypt0nian]

This rumor smells, feels and yes, tastes like bullshit.

No way SONY is dumb or conceited enough to think this would fly, at home or anywhere else.

File this under FUD.

 

[sly]

This rumor smells, feels and yes, tastes like bullshit.

No way SONY is dumb or conceited enough to think this would fly, at home or anywhere else.

File this under FUD.

Hey what does FUD mean? I'm sure the FU stands for Fucked UP :lol

 

[Shompola]

FUD = File Under Dis

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Hey what does FUD mean? I'm sure the FU stands for Fucked UP :lol

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

 

[sly]

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Thanks! I always thought it was Fucked up data or something :lol

 

[Speevy]

And what evil source is responsible for this?

 

[DarienA]

Hey what does FUD mean? I'm sure the FU stands for Fucked UP :lol

Are you serious? Well in case you are it's fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

EDIT:

Beaten... well this better be FUD or sony could find themselves FOOBAR'd.

 

[krypt0nian]

well this better be FUD or sony could find themselves FOOBAR'd.

:lol indeed

 

[Speevy]

Are you serious? Well in case you are it's fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

EDIT:

Beaten... well this better be FUD or sony could find themselves FOOBAR'd.

I'm a Senior in college and am about 2 months from having a Minor in Marketing. None of my books carry that concept in that context. What's ridiculous about the fact that he's never seen it?

 

[Shompola]

did you read about diminishing returns in marketing?

 

[pestul]

Sony would delay before ever releasing a neutered system like that. I don't see how from a technical standpoint they would be having these problems. I call bunk too.

 

[Speevy]

did you read about diminishing returns in marketing?

That concept is ever-present in all my classes. I've just never seen FUD in one of my marketing books. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I think this rumor is complete bull shit. EA internal documents :lol what a load of crap

 

[Raistlin]

Wouldn't Sony have to remove BluRay movie playback then ...

... otherwise they would be breaking their own spec?


(BluRay spec calls for backwards compatibility with DVD-ROMs).

 

[DarienA]

That concept is ever-present in all my classes. I've just never seen FUD in one of my marketing books. That's all I'm saying.

...Speevy I'm not sure where you're going with this one... it's pretty common used in day to day talk about what company's who are marketing competitive products attempt to do to each other.... BTW I never said it was ridiculous, however since the poster did not have a smiley face I couldn't tell he was being sarcastic... so my are you serious wasn't the (are you serious? you are the stupidest!!!) it was the real... are you being serious or are you joking.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

This rumor doesn't really make sense. BC with DVD is a spec of Blu-ray itself.

 

[Speevy]

...Speevy I'm not sure where you're going with this one... it's pretty common used in day to day talk about what company's who are marketing competitive products attempt to do to each other.... BTW I never said it was ridiculous, however since the poster did not have a smiley face I couldn't tell he was being sarcastic... so my are you serious wasn't the (are you serious? you are the stupidest!!!) it was the real... are you being serious or are you joking.

Okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And I wasn't denying how common it was. I was just giving my perspective, having never marketed a product or seen it in a textbook myself.

 

[Jerkface]

This rumor doesn't really make sense. BC with DVD is a spec of Blu-ray itself.

For standalone players it is, the PS3 doesn't have to comply to those specs.

 

[sly]

For standalone players it is, the PS3 doesn't have to comply to those specs.

O RLY?

 

[MrSingh]

Which was your favorite gameplay moment in the MGS4 reveal? Mine was shut the fuck up.

Just for the record I hate all stealth games.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Are you serious? Well in case you are it's fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

EDIT:

Beaten... well this better be FUD or sony could find themselves FOOBAR'd.

It can't possibly be true.

Ken aint that dumb. I don't think he's dumb at all, but no engineer worth their salt would pull something like this.

 

[urk]

This rumor doesn't really make sense. BC with DVD is a spec of Blu-ray itself.

No it's not. From Blu-ray.com:

Although it's up to each manufacturer to decide if they want to make their products backwards compatible with DVD, the format is far too popular to not be supported.

 

[DarienA]

For standalone players it is, the PS3 doesn't have to comply to those specs.

If it's going to carry the BR logo on it, I believe it does.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

I thought the Blue Ray spec dictated that it could read DVDs and CDs by default anyhow.

If not, that sucks.

 

[conker]

I think the more likely scenario is Sony shipping out a turd drive like thay always have.

Then people have problems with their PS3s not reading discs or just generally fucking up.

In a year or so all the early adopters buy new PS3s.

(Of course, they'll also buy new PS3 over in Japan if you simply update your BR drivers from version 1.03 to 1.03a)

Customer shells out more cash.
Sony's sales go up.
Customer loses.
Sony wins.

YAY!

Sony ALWAYS has fucked up hardware at launch.

PS PS2 PSP have all had big problems.

 

[Zaptruder]

I wouldn't doubt if one or two FUD spreaders in here were actually viral marketers.

For some reason trolls have more credibility than people that boast enthusiastically? I guess its mainly because they're not championing some broken product.

 

[DarienA]

I think the more likely scenario is Sony shipping out a turd drive like thay always have.

Then people have problems with their PS3s not reading discs or just generally fucking up.

In a year or so all the early adopters buy new PS3s.

(Of course, they'll also buy new PS3 over in Japan if you simply update your BR drivers from version 1.03 to 1.03a)

Customer shells out more cash.
Sony's sales go up.
Customer loses.
Sony wins.

YAY!

Sony ALWAYS has fucked up hardware at launch.

PS PS2 PSP have all had big problems.

Jesus Christ I cannot BELIEVE someone dug this shit up.... shined it off... and pitched it as new/fact....

 

[urk]

If it's going to carry the BR logo on it, I believe it does.

Yes. If it is a Blu-Ray player, then obviously it would have to meet Blu-Ray standards. In this case, there are no standards for any Blu-Ray player (standalone or otherwise) which force manufactures to provide compatability with DVD standards.

Not that it bolsters this bullshit rumor anyway, but there you go.

 

[Deg]

This is too crazy to be true. Funny if true. :lol

 

[pestul]

Well, I suppose it's one hell of a way to push Blu-Ray.. well except for the lack of dual-layer part. :lol

Has to be BS.

 

[Teddman]

And what evil source is responsible for this?

The original source of this rumor is not London-Boy's Beyond 3D forum post, but a post by Hey69 at OA. Same guy who revealed the Giga Pack yesterday before it was officially announced.

That guy on Beyond3d asked me permission and I gave it!
good news has to be spread out.

because that guy has an absolute big credit and postcount over there.
they would ban me for trolling if I where to post that.

 

[Chittagong]

The original source of this rumor is not London-Boy's Beyond 3D forum post, but a post by Hey69 at OA. Same guy who revealed the Giga Pack yesterday before it was officially announced.

I guess that about wraps up this thread. There is a big difference of leaking shit NDAd to press and leaking shit going on deep in R&D labs in Japan.

 

[Forsete]

The original source of this rumor is not London-Boy's Beyond 3D forum post, but a post by Hey69 at OA. Same guy who revealed the Giga Pack yesterday before it was officially announced.

:lol Really? Then we can put this to rest.

 

[Lord Error]

I guess that about wraps up this thread. There is a big difference of leaking shit NDAd to press and leaking shit going on deep in R&D labs in Japan.

If it's 'leaking' to begin with. I mean, if he has some kind of agenda ("Good news"?) this would be the perfect time for him to drop a FUD bomb like this, if he just made the whole thing up (not saying he did, but IF) - just as soon as he gained some credibility by revealing the PSP Giga pack.

 

[Borys]

I guess that about wraps up this thread. There is a big difference of leaking shit NDAd to press and leaking shit going on deep in R&D labs in Japan.

Not to mention that the whole B3D is sucking ATI's cock since nVidia launched the 5900 series.

Yes I went there and I remember the good old B3D before the fanboism.

 

[Razoric]

B3D: Sony my release PS3 without a processor to launch early 2005. Hamster to replace CELL.

Forumers: OMG it's from B3D it must be true.

:lol

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I guess that about wraps up this thread. There is a big difference of leaking shit NDAd to press and leaking shit going on deep in R&D labs in Japan.

well said!

 

[Raistlin]

For standalone players it is, the PS3 doesn't have to comply to those specs.

Can you point to some documentation on this?

 

[jamesinclair]

I can see them doing this in Japan....

Remember how much early PSX (not PSone) buyers were screwed?

In the US however, this wouldnt fly.

 

[hedi]

This will not happen im sure of it

 

[Panajev2001a]

No it's not. From Blu-ray.com:

That is not their official web site.

This is their official web site: http://www.blu-raydisc.com/

 

[Panajev2001a]

I can see them doing this in Japan....

Remember how much early PSX (not PSone) buyers were screwed?

They were not screwed like this. It would have had to be Sony coming to their houses fucking them in the ass and branding them on the butt-cheecks like cows to be on a similar level.

You do not seem to realize the worldwide PR backlash this would generate and not only that, but the fact that this would DESTROY them in Japan.

Again, go ask in Japan how much they love Mitsubishi cars... people there seem to have a very good memory of companies which have screwed them over too much.

Whatever is the situation in their labs now, I do not believe they will launch such a disaster (which I would not buy: no DVD movie playback, no CD audio playback and at the same time no PSOne and no PSTwo backward-compatibility and NO compatibility with dual layer BD-ROM discs ???? That would be such a PR disaster that wopuld destroy their SCE/PlayStation brand name in Japan IMHO).

 

[Vince]

Damn Pana, cut down on the visuals next time bud.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Damn Pana, cut down on the visuals next time bud.

Sorry Vince, but it is difficult to express the darkness of the full picture and I thought a visual analogy would help .

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I'm ignorant, what did Mitsubishi do in Japan to the consumer?

 

[EternalDarko]

:lol
This is complete and utter bullshit. Not even worth debating.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I'm ignorant, what did Mitsubishi do in Japan to the consumer?

Amongst the various things IIRC there was this big one:

Former Mitsubishi head pleads innocent
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Katsuhiko Kawasoe
Katsuhiko Kawasoe
Kawasoe denies guilt as MMC’s previous failings are aired in court

In the long running saga of negligence, the former head of Tokyo-based Mitsubishi Motors (MMC), 68-year old Katsuhiko Kawasoe, pleaded innocent to all charges in court today. The case was brought after a fatal accident in October 2002, when a 39-year old Japanese man driving a Mitsubishi Fuso was killed, after crashing into a concrete embankment when his brakes failed.

Prosecutors say the accident was caused by a design defect, Associated Press (AP) has reported. As the charges were heard today in Yokohama District Court, Kawasoe expressed regret that the fatal accident occurred, although his defence is that he claims he knew the depth of the problems surrounding the defects in MMC trucks.

At the time of the incident, Kawasoe was the company’s president. He acknowledged the Tokyo-based manufacturer had hidden defects from authorities, thought to span years. Earlier in 2004, the company and its commercial vehicle subsidiary, Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus Corp., admitted it had failed to come clean in 2000 and continued to hide the design problems.

The announcement stunned the Japanese public and sending Mitsubishi car sales into freefall. The fault in question was a clutch-housing design flaw, which at least four senior executives knew of and hid from authorities. Two of the four pleaded guilty at today’s trial, the only members of the company to admit any kind of guilt in court.

Wilfried Porth, the company’s current President and CEO, issued a statement expressing his sincerest apologies to the general public for the disturbances and worries caused by the clutch-housing accident happened in 2002. "We take the indictment of former MFTBC executives in this matter very seriously. At the same time, we would like to express our deepest apology and condolence to the family of the deceased," he said. "We believe the fact presented in the indictment will be clarified through the trial, and we will wait for the result of the court proceedings," Porth added.

Mitsubishi Motors

No people would DIE from such a shitty PLAYSTATION 3 set-up as the one rumored in these pages, but for such a brand-name oriented, mass market CE company (like SCE)... well, it would be such a loss that they might alter the design of the console so that they randomly explode.

 

[Foil]

do they think they are microsoft or something...damn this rush to kill this generation so soon...

So soon??? This generation started in 1999 for crying out loud. It's about time this gen ended.