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Because nobody owns a Move. Where are these 15 million controllers?
I own one and it works quite well compared to that broken Dance Central peripheral.
Because nobody owns a Move. Where are these 15 million controllers?
I need more light gun games before I can qualify the Move as a success.
I think they are counting the same games over & over again for the US, Japan ,UK & so on.
Ah I guess that makes sense.I think they are counting the same games over & over again for the US, Japan ,UK & so on.
Well my experience is first hand, and I know that 360 outshipped PS3 probably 3-4:1. Our regional sent photos several times a week of stores' console set up & display, and 360 dwarfed PS3. I think it is pretty widely known that MS overships quite a bit.That's funny, I know a guy high up at Gamestop that said the opposite, I guess anecdotal data means nothing ^^
Well my experience is first hand, and I know that 360 outshipped PS3 probably 3-4:1. Our regional sent photos several times a week of stores' console set up & display, and 360 dwarfed PS3. I think it is pretty widely known that MS overships quite a bit.
Almost everyone that has Move has 2 controllers, so its probably more like a 1:10 ratio.
I know how retail works dude. This isn't some fanboy bullshit, MS simply overships at the holidays. Fact of the matter is that nearly all of what they ship gets sold eventually, so I don't know why you're making such a big deal about it. I'm not suggesting they do it to say they shipped more, I don't know if that's true and I don't care. But I know for a fact that they ship a shit ton of systems for the holidays.I think you don't know what you're talking about. Retailers order in what they want, MS can't force them to take consoles. It's not like some plan for MS to overship and beat PS3. And just because your experience is first hand doesn't make it anymore true, or trustworthy than my friend ...
Also I don't know of any other occasion where there have been overshipping issues with 360? Not in recent years anyway, bit said to label MS like that.
I know how retail works dude. This isn't some fanboy bullshit, MS simply overships at the holidays. Fact of the matter is that nearly all of what they ship gets sold eventually, so I don't know why you're making such a big deal about it. I'm not suggesting they do it to say they shipped more, I don't know if that's true and I don't care. But I know for a fact that they ship a shit ton of systems for the holidays.
That's just an assumption you are making. You really have no idea what percentage of PS Move owners have more than one of them.
Overkill? It's fantastic.Speaking of that, how is HOD on move? I got move and I got DS Extraction and am buying Portal in motion and have killzone 3 to play, need a couple more games though..
What are you talking about?
SC2, LBKR,Datura, The Unfinished Swan,Hot Shots Golf 5 and Wonderbook are the most recent ones.
Yes, they all do, it's the holidays. Clue is in the title, doesn't mean they're overshipping.
I see 100 million as a realistic possibility. Depending on the release of the PS4, PS3 numbers could be already at 80+ million when that happens. Didn't Sony get permission to sell PS3's in China only recently?
Almost everyone that has Move has 2 controllers, so its probably more like a 1:10 ratio.
They do overship. Go in any retail store before and after the holidays and you will see it first hand. I'm not sure why your second hand info trumps my first hand experience, but whatever man, believe what you want.Yes, they all do, it's the holidays. Clue is in the title, doesn't mean they're overshipping.
They still have
The Last of Us
The Last Guardian (hopefully)
God of War: Ascension
Studio Ghibli's Nino Kuni
Quantic Dream's Beyond 2 Souls
for next year. Striking off FF Vs XIII because it's vaporware.
I think you don't know what you're talking about. Retailers order in what they want, MS can't force them to take consoles. It's not like some plan for MS to overship and beat PS3. And just because your experience is first hand doesn't make it anymore true, or trustworthy than my friend ...
Also I don't know of any other occasion where there have been overshipping issues with 360? Not in recent years anyway, bit said to label MS like that.
Yeah I was talking about mostly first party software but yeah it still has more to come in 2013.Exactly and don't forget Portal 2 just got Move support. Also, Bioshock Infinite is going to have Move support.
Regarding the PS3, sales numbers are great and all but I bought the PS3 for exclusives and god damn it still has some great exclusives coming up.
And peripherals & points cards. Trust me, Gamestop makes a SHITLOAD on this stuff. I was seriously in awe at how many 360 controllers, points cards & headsets I sold last year. I expected a lot, but I was blown away at controller sales alone. Yes, they probably leverage 360 overshipments with the peripherals, but I'm sure Gamestop isn't mad about it because they are making a load of money on the thing.They can if they wanna get that brand new Windows 8.
Yes, stuff like this happens. And it hasn't even been the first time for the 360 specifically.
And no, the plan isn't to "beat" the PS3. It's to please shareholders and say they met their targets.
They still have
The Last of Us
The Last Guardian (hopefully)
God of War: Ascension
Studio Ghibli's Nino Kuni
Quantic Dream's Beyond 2 Souls
for next year. Striking off FF Vs XIII because it's vaporware.
They still have
The Last of Us
The Last Guardian (hopefully)
God of War: Ascension
Studio Ghibli's Nino Kuni
Quantic Dream's Beyond 2 Souls
for next year. Striking off FF Vs XIII because it's vaporware.
And to think we just had like... 2-3 "SONY IS DOOMED, WILL THERE BE A PS4" threads too. Great news that they're over 70 now. I have a Move but I don't really use it much, happy to see that is gaining some traction as well.
I think the PS3 has enough gas to keep going for a year or even two (depending on how well Sony decides to support the system). When everything is said and done for this gen they might snatch that second place which imo it's deserved. Love the PS3 library.
Regarding Move, probably half of those numbers or more are sitting in warehouses. I have yet to meet a PS3 owner that bought a Move controller or Navi.
Sales don't indicate financial health of a company, especially sales in one division of a large company.And to think we just had like... 2-3 "SONY IS DOOMED, WILL THERE BE A PS4" threads too. Great news that they're over 70 now. I have a Move but I don't really use it much, happy to see that is gaining some traction as well.
Yeah that another poor argument I see pop up time to time.why would stores keep ordering more if this were the case?
They still have
The Last of Us
The Last Guardian (hopefully)
God of War: Ascension
Studio Ghibli's Nino Kuni
Quantic Dream's Beyond 2 Souls
for next year. Striking off FF Vs XIII because it's vaporware.
Not an exclusive, anymore.Don't forget Agent.I still believe.
Speaking of that, how is HOD on move? I got move and I got DS Extraction and am buying Portal in motion and have killzone 3 to play, need a couple more games though.
Yes, each specific SKU is probably counted as a game, so Killzone 3, for example, is probably counted 3 times (US, EU, Japan SKUs).
Speaking of that, how is HOD on move? I got move and I got DS Extraction and am buying Portal in motion and have killzone 3 to play, need a couple more games though.
To get those Vita's. Sony obviously doesn't want to sell them to the stores if they don't keep stockpiling Moves.why would stores keep ordering more if this were the case?
This is probably the greatest lineup any console in history has recieved in its 7th year in the market.
I think the PS3 has enough gas to keep going for a year or even two (depending on how well Sony decides to support the system). When everything is said and done for this gen they might snatch that second place which imo it's deserved. Love the PS3 library.
Regarding Move, probably half of those numbers or more are sitting in warehouses. I have yet to meet a PS3 owner that bought a Move controller or Navi.
Can't say I give much of a shit about God of War, but yeah - that is a killer line-up for an aging console. And that's without mentioning Sly 4 in Feb or Puppeteer in the Autumn season. Fingers crossed that Until Dawn is worth a damn and Yakuza 5 gets localised (I think it will) also.
I think where the PS3 is concerned, it has some real longevity. It was easy to scoff at Sony's "ten year life cycle" declarations years ago, but it looks like it's going to play out that way now.
The House of Dead games should only be played on PS3. The Wii does not have the accuracy.![]()
So with this new number, what is the current breakdown by region?
As far as Move controllers (Move/Navi) and sales.
Sony said they were going to profit on every Move controller sold from launch....so it shouldn't matter in their eyes much if one gamer owns 4 move controllers...compared to having 4 different gamers who own 1 move controller.
sure those 4 gamers might give Sony the opportunity to get 4 different software sales...but that one gamer who owns 4 Move controllers must love that Motion option (with fam and friends) and might invest in much more Move software.
either way 15 million is 15 million.....without much marketing.
This is probably the greatest lineup any console in history has recieved in its 7th year in the market.
Don't worry, the 360 is comfortably ahead of the PS3 in the US and UK. Possibly even doubling it.
2009 PS3 lineup has it beat.