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PS4 Launch Thread [Thread being archived 1/1/14]

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chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
unknownstranger said:
Was curious how Escape Plan would work on PS4. Works decently although making circles on it is a little annoying. Also wish the camera was mapped to the right stick instead of both pointing and moving the camera on the left stick.
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It lost a LOT in the move from Vita, IMO. Though maybe someone who hasn't played the Vita version would like this one, I dunno.
 
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SwiftDeath

Member
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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I wouldn't worry about the analog rubber issue but if your main reason to get a PS4 is killzone I'd hold off. It's not worth buying a new console over but it's MP is pretty good, better multiplats (if you don't game on PC) is more worthwhile
 
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Uno Venova

Banned
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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I hope another game interests you besides killzone, it's pretty ordinary.
 
James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

Member
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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Have you ever liked a Killzone game or its MP? Do you like old school FPS games rather than rollercoaster rides?

Does anything else interest you on the system now at launch or in the near future?

If yes, probably a good idea to grab one. I think the rubber issues on the sticks are a bit overstated. It happened to mine a bit slightly, but it hasn't increased since the first week, and I don't notice it at all unless I look at it closely. I certainly can't feel it.

A lot of people don't have the problem at all, so I appear to be an isolated case.
 
Dr. Kitty Muffins

Dr. Kitty Muffins

Member
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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Go for it. Your friend obviously loves you.
 
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Prince Vultan

Banned
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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Somehow, I think PS4 is not for you, Satchel.

You should forget about it.
 
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Vodh

Junior Member
UK Netflix doesn't work for me for some reason. Whenever I start the app it displays a message that reads "There appears to be a technical problem. Please restart Netflix." and the only thing I can do on that screen is restart Netflix (or just close application through PS button) and it comes back on after every restart.

Tried manually restarting after closing the application, tried restarting PS4 and redownloading the app, nothing works so far. Any UK gaffers able to confirm whether the app works for them?
 
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Satchel

Banned
upJTboogie said:
I hope another game interests you besides killzone, it's pretty ordinary.
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FUCK! Don't say that.

My OCD won't let me sell Killzone as it's on the box. I just rang him back and confirmed the I WILL pick it up, so there's a few things here. I can:

- Keep the PS4 and never open Killzone since the game seems to suck (I'm only paying $650AU for the bundle :) )

- Sell on eBay. I can comfortably get $900AU for it

- Keep the lot and PLAY Killzone and hope I don't hate it's guts

My mate told me that if I cop the shhitty ribber problem he'll swap controllers, so that helps mitigate THAT problem.

FUCK. I'll just buy it and mull over it for a few nights.
 
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Satchel

Banned
James Sawyer Ford said:
Have you ever liked a Killzone game or its MP? Do you like old school FPS games rather than rollercoaster rides?

Does anything else interest you on the system now at launch or in the near future?

If yes, probably a good idea to grab one. I think the rubber issues on the sticks are a bit overstated. It happened to mine a bit slightly, but it hasn't increased since the first week, and I don't notice it at all unless I look at it closely. I certainly can't feel it.

A lot of people don't have the problem at all, so I appear to be an isolated case.
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I liked Killzone 3, but not 2.

Resogun sounds cool, and I really want the PS4 version of Diablo 3 as well as inFamous.
 
James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

Member
Satchel said:
I liked Killzone 3, but not 2.

Resogun sounds cool, and I really want the PS4 version of Diablo 3 as well as inFamous.
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Interesting about kz3, most didn't like it. Did you hate the kz2 controls? Because shadow falls controls are pretty awesome, some of the best I've played I a console shooter and nothing like kz2. Very responsive and accurate.

Shadow fall is a bit of a wild card...I thought it was the best in the series, but I appreciate the slower old school tactical style it promotes. Some people found it boring because it's not as set piece oriented as the previous entries. I've found that a lot of the press that didn't like it didn't really take the time to understand the new mechanics and were overwhelmed and frustrated as a result....it's really not a hard game but it forces you to constantly use the owl.

MP is fantastic and most folks enjoy it even if they hate the sp.

If you want Resogun, infamous, and Diablo 3 I'd probably just get the ps4 now as Resogun is already out and infamous and diablo are mere months away. Ps4 price isn't going to be dropping anytime soon.
 
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Vodh

Junior Member
Damn, can't get the freaking netflix to work. Weird too since googling for issues where it just flat out doesn't work at all on PS4 yields no results :(
 
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Italian stallion

Junior 4EVA
PaulLFC said:
If the games are Free 2 Play (e.g. Blacklight Retribution, DC Universe Online, War Thunder, Warframe, etc) then yes, online is free.

For retail games, no, online is not free, you need PlayStation Plus. It is worth it though, mainly for the 5 or 6 "free" games you get each month across PS3/PS4/Vita.
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what about the other games like COD and BF is online free?
 
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JohnnySasaki86

Member
Satchel said:
I don't know what to do.

I cancelled my PS4 Killzobe bundle order, but my mate at the store sneakily put one aside for me and called me JUST NOW to tell me it's there if I want it.

But the bad things I hear about Killzone and the Analog rubber issue are making me REALLY hesitant.
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What is this analog rubber issue I keep hearing about? I have two DS4's that have been played with extensively and I havent had any issue. What should I be looking for?

Also Killzone SF is awesome if only for its amazing visuals to show off to your friends. Really great show of what PS4 is capable of in the future. I enjoyed the single player. Worst part was the cringe worthy cutscenes with awful lip syncing. Game actually had a pretty good story, but Guerrilla just doesn't know how to pull it off and make it interesting. The delivery is just awful, and there transitioning from one situation to the next is super rough. Its just not there forte.

MP is also very solid. A lot of fun. I'm just not a fan of the progression system, if you could even call it that. Prefer the COD set up with XP and challenges. They pretty much just stripped away the XP and leveling, and just left what little progression there was tied to the challenges. Definitely gonna hurt the community down the line when more games come out.
 
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Satchel

Banned
So um yeah.

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Just need to decide whether I keep it or eBay it.
 
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VanWinkle

Member
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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Umm...what is this? It's loaded with misinformation and it feels like it was written in June or something.
 
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Alucard1786

Banned
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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Is this back to the future ?
 
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nhlducks35

Member
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.

Cons
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.
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I got news for you...
 
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PeregrinSe7en

Member
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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MistermediaX is that you?
 
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Vodh

Junior Member
Where on earth did you get that list from? Hahaha, what a post. Thanks for the reminder of the post-E3 GAF shill wars.
 
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JohnnySasaki86

Member
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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lol what a troll post. Make every Xbone advantage seem amazing, every con as no big deal, and then every PS4 advantage as "meh" and then the cons as deal breakers.

Yes Xbone has a more advanced operating system with more features, and a lot of them are very cool. PS4 does advantages here though that you failed to mention. Mainly with its PlayGo functionality and downloads and installs taking much less time.

PS4 is more powerful with better mutliplats, and I wouldn't say this difference is "slight". Were talking resolutions up to twice as high and better framerates. Theres a good chance that PS4 will get many of the OS features over time. Its certainly capable with its 8gb of GDDR5 memory. Also the operating system, while not nearly as advanced and feature rich, is very slick, fast, and responsive. Being $100 more expensive while being inferior hardware wise is a pretty big con for most people.

Launch window titles being better is subjective. I wouldnt say it would be if your an action/adventure fan, cause Infamous is looking to be pretty amazing. Also PS4 will likely have the much superior Destiny version. If you want next big thing in online MP FPS's, then Xbone launch lineup will likely appeal to you with Titanfall.
 
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Striek

Member
Satchel said:
I'm ebaying It for a hefty price. If someone bites, great. If not, I got me the final piece in my gaming room puzzle.
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Seeing current Ebay prices you're probably going to make bank.

And if you don't you could always sell it to someone on gaf who will actually use it and wants it.... *cough, cough*

...I went to a bunch of retailers today and the earliest estimate for "pre-ordering" was DSE for late-January. JB said Feb, HN said Feb-Mar, two EBs said Mar, Target said Feb...fml.
 
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kitch9

Banned
Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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TV and Skype is truly next gen eh?

Truly.
 
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Hasney

Member
Mr. Italian Stallion, I got up to disc swapping in your post and I hate to say it, but you need to swap discs in the XB1 if your games are physical. I'm going to assume the rest of your post is wrong too.
 
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Satchel

Banned
Striek said:
Seeing current Ebay prices you're probably going to make bank.

And if you don't you could always sell it to someone on gaf who will actually use it and wants it.... *cough, cough*

...I went to a bunch of retailers today and the earliest estimate for "pre-ordering" was DSE for late-January. JB said Feb, HN said Feb-Mar, two EBs said Mar, Target said Feb...fml.
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Dude, I'd rather not rip you off.

I want a PS4, so if I'm not going to get 1K plus, I'll just keep it. I don't want to rip off a GAFfer like that.
 
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