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[BronsonLee]

If the rumours are true of an October announcement, that'll be three years. If it launches next year it'll be four years. That's a traditional console cycle.

PS1 to PS2 - 6 years
PS2 to PS3 - 6 years
PS3 to PS4 - 7 years

I'VE BEEN HAD

 

[Baleoce]

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance

If this paragraph becomes official, then I have little reason to stay on this platform. I'll just put my resources into upgrading my PC.

 

[brau]

I really hope they come up with a trade in deal where people that already spent $400 on the first PS4 get a good deal out of it. I would pay $100 and trade my PS4 for a new version of it.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Don't fucking do this Sony. This is bullshit. Sacrifices to the performance ? Fuck you. This is MS may 2013 levels of stupidity.

Come on son, you're taking this at face value?

 

[Hollabootsey]

Quite a bold step, day one if real!

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Is OP a reliable GAF source ?

Bish verified AFAIK

 

[univariate]

It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.

 

[androvsky]

Related info from a meeting we had yesterday was waiting for it to be approved before posting.

... okay, since they're taking feedback apparently...

It was also made very clear that current games would not be getting any type of performance upgrades by being played on the system and any benefits to older games would come via patch per game and per developer. When asked if this was going to happen the response was "Its a possibility but doubtful with the exception of a handful of games."

That's a hot load of crap. And I'm generally in favor of an upgraded PS4.

 

[BY2K]

Upscaling to 4K isn't going to be too demanding. Rendering at 4K would be though.

Sure but

considerable sacrifices made to performance.

Sounds like a big "fuck you" to early buyers of the PS4.

 

[Elandyll]

They might as well go all in at $499 with GPU & CPU upgrade, and keeping the PS4 @$299. One system aiming at 1080p, the other squarely marketed for 4K, both playing the same games (some optimized for PS4K, most not and just upscaled).

Still taking this all with a grain of salt, no offense.

 

[E_Darkness]

Looking forward to a divided userbase!

 

[bitbydeath]

Damn, Sony need to formally announce this already. Also if you're going to break with better tech then go all in with the $599.

 

[Eolz]

Even if I believe you on some points, this sounds like something vague being told to retailers, like when manufacturers say something about devkits and the final version actually can't run your game...

Well

Thanks for spoiling Sony's E3 2016 press conference

Ahahahah

 

[-tetsuo-]

Is it April 1st somewhere?

 

[213372bu]

Seriously though how are they going to dish out a console with 2x the GPU power as the same price as an OG PS4.

 

[mdubs]

$599.99 in Canada calling it right now

 

[Deleted member 752119]

So much this. This is just going to absolutely fuck any point in owning a console.

Yep. The whole appeal to consoles for me has been knowing I could buy a box and know that I'd have a machine that would play every game released for it fine for 5+ years.

If they're going to do incremental upgrades, and make me hassle with seeing how games run on the older hardware, I see know point in sticking with consoles. Especially when console game prices are so much higher than PC game prices as the digital sales on the consoles just aren't comparable.

 

[Neiteio]

My main concern is transferring stuff off my current HDD. How easy would it be to port over all of my capture footage, pics, etc?

 

[Rudiano]

lol 5 pages already. Typical GAF going crazy despite their being no source on this so called meeting

 

[Resident_UA]

I've been following these threads and I don't really get why this is so bad... Personally I'm interested.

 

[DryvBy]

It's right in the OP!

Game should be set in South America with a sacrifice theme, to include the fact that the PS4 version has multiple sacrifices.

I don't care what OP said. That's not going to happen.

 

[EvilKatarn]

It was also made very clear that current games would not be getting any type of performance upgrades by being played on the system and any benefits to older games would come via patch per game and per developer.

Surprising exactly no one with a remotely functioning brain.

 

[Plinko]

I can't imagine this being anywhere near as successful as they hope it to be.

 

[outunderthestars]

Welp, buying a console is a mistake.

No more so than buying any other piece of electronics, household good, etc.

I think a 3+ year refresh cycle is quite reasonable.

 

[Bl@de]

This is a bigger jump from ps3 to ps4 LOWKEY 👀

It isn't.

 

[Neander]

Current games won't have performance enhancements unless they are patched on a per game per Dev basis? Ok that blows right there.

 

[Footos22]

Don't fucking do this Sony. This is bullshit. Sacrifices to the performance ? Fuck you. This is MS may 2013 levels of stupidity.

From the sounds of things ms are doing the same anyway

 

[entremet]

LOL.

I love cocky Sony. My bae is back!

Disrupt this shit.

 

[Nirolak]

Wow, shit O_O

So why isn't this a PS5 exactly?

A 2x GPU FLOP increase with a clock speed upgrade isn't exactly PS3 -> PS4 level.

This is about a half-generation upgrade, which makes sense given it's 3 years into the generation instead of 6.

If you've ever wanted to have the PC-esque experience of upgrading your hardware mid generation, this is a pretty good fit. You should see appreciable gains, but don't expect a full on generation leap.

 

[danowat]

Your console doesn't get weaker because of a new stronger version.

No, it doesn't, what it does mean though is that you are going to have to suffer much poorer performance in any new titles that are released, who wants that? Devs aren't going to target the lower spec machine.

 

[Mabufu]

GPU twice as powerfull with a chance of better CPU also?

I'm in.

 

[Zakard]

This is surprising

 

[Timeaisis]

Would have to be pretty damn crazy to ignore 40 million users.

Haha, too true. This is such a weird move.

 

[FrozenCell]

so 30fps games could be patched to run at full framerate

sold.

 

[Carn82]

Mentioning Deep Down makes me not believe this post, unless it got rebooted between a year ago and today..

 

[FTF]

Fuuuuuuuu

If God of War 4 is gimped on regular PS4s I'm going to be pissed!

I don't want to buy another ps4 so soon but I also want the best versions of my favorite games/franchises!

Get more mixed feelings about this as each day goes by :/

 

[PlatypusDude]

Wow that does sound like a significant boost in power. Still wonder if there will be an upgrade program of any kind for those with the old PS4, doubt it, but that's likely the only way I'll upgrade immediately. Also, still wonder if the adoption rate will be enough to prevent the PS4K from having the same fate of the DSi or New 3DS though.

 

[KingBroly]

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

This is what people don't want to happen, yet they're seemingly already going to do it.

 

[timetokill]

If true, this is Sony taking a giant dump on its early adopters, while knowing that a lot of them are so invested in the ecosystem that they'll compulsively upgrade to the latest tech.

 

[Skelter]

Related info from a meeting we had yesterday was waiting for it to be approved before posting.

Price is currently $399.99 they were discussing a better CPU which would raise the price to $499.99 we were guaranteed the price will be no higher than $499.99


It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.


That's all I can remember off the top of my head I'll see if I can get any more information.

I'll sell my current PS4 and buy a PS4K gladly. Much better than just getting a Samsung UHD player.

 

[hughesta]

this is fucking absurd. awful idea from Sony.

 

[StoopKid]

It's a pretty ballsy/stupid move to say to 40M customers that they own a gimped box now.

It's not like the games won't work.

 

[MK_768]

Typical Sony. Once they get on people's good graces they fuck it up a bit with nonsense like this(if it's true).

Happened with going from PS2 to PS3 and now this. I mean whatever. I'll stick to my PS4.

 

[Rellik]

Your console doesn't get weaker because of a new stronger version.

True, but it does sound like the games on the OG PS4 are going to take quite the hit from what the OP says.

 

[NullPointer]

Your console doesn't get weaker because of a new stronger version.

When the new games come out with significant performance degradation when running on your current console, it sure does.

 

[FATALITY]

Sacrificed games isn't exactly what we are getting now from pc games?

 

[hitme]

Uncharted 4 would probably be one of those games that would be upscale with the PS4k.

dem graphics.

 

[Hawk269]

A better CPU would cause it to go up $100.00??? That sounds very odd to me. Especially if the suggestion that the GPU is twice as powerful and it is $399.99? That seems like a high price increase for a better CPU.

But honestly, fuck it. Put that fucker in it and charge $499.99. No compromises this time. If the GPU is twice as powerful, they need a CPU that wont starve the GPU. If they are going full throttle on this thing, they need to improve the CPU as the current one is a piece of shit.

 

[shandy706]

(Slams on brakes for PS4 purchase)

I hope this system is coming before October!

 

[Cereal Enthusiast]

It was stated plainly and with no room for interpretation that there are developers that already have development kits for the PS4K and that they are making games that will directly target and take advantage of the higher specs of the PS4K. It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

So I have no other choice than buying it.