#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"

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Krabardaf said:
Public demonstration are generally organized and short.
Now if you think a riot is needed in the PS4 scenario, well, okay.
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This part I just don't understand, to be honest. This is exactly how things like this works on Twitter. A small community tries to get others involved to highlight an issue to make it mainstream. In what way is that a riot? I've worked with social media management for international companies, as well as on campaigns that try to make issues public through the use of social media, and there is nothing wrong or weird or "riot" about this. You're just wrong.

Come on.

Krabardaf said:
I just think you are "expressing your opinion" to people that are already well aware of it, and that may even share it. It must simply be plain annoying for them. How the fact that this is via twitter makes it less spamming remains quite mysterious to me.

You're showing muscles, but everybody knows you're still a vocal minority.
It's not at all like workers going on a strike because they boss is disconnected from reality.

In the end the plans of Sony won't change, they have a much broader vision, and you'll only have wasted the time of a few people. Once again, would you like to be the person receiving your messages?

PS : I'm totally okay with hashtags, as they don't target anyone.

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I'm saying the currently angry gamers represent a small percentage of all software/hardware sales in the lifetime of the console. That they buy more games changes nothing to that.
And that isn't even considering most angry gamers right now will still buy the PS4 regardless.
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So basically you're saying:
1. Don't talk about this, they already know about it, and since we don't know about Sonys vision we should shut up about it until they tell us what it is like nice little sheep.
2. Don't annoy public company people with our opinions, it doesn't matter that their Twitter accounts is essentially part of their marketing - because it's disrespectful?
3. We're just angry gamers that noone really cares about anyway.

Come on.
 
If the PS4 doesnt require an online connection (from what we know, it doesnt), doesn't it mean used games are allowed?

Or do we want even less restrictions that they may implement? (what would those be?)
 
I'll join Twitter tomorrow and help out, but now I need some sleep first.

That PA Report thread got me boiling hard.
 
Wow, this certainly has blown up a bit overnight.

Good thing too, hopefully some of the higher up people at Sony like Yoshida have started to take notice (besides Scott Rohde last night).
 
TimeEffect said:
If the PS4 doesnt require an online connection (from what we know, it doesnt), doesn't it mean used games are allowed?

Or do we want even less restrictions that they may implement? (what would those be?)
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I don't see how a console can tell if a game is used or not without connecting to the internet
 
We need to get more more then just Gaf to participate. Spread the word. Make a similar topic on Reddit and more importantly Facebook. Twitter is nice and all, but we need more people participating, we need a very big voice. Literally thousands of voices and complaints.
 
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Hanmik said:
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And this is the good part, right now. This social media buzz is not overly negative. It is in fact saying a lot of nice things about Sony and Playstation.

What it is doing is it's making this whole issue very public and Sony can still come out as winners - with a whole lot of free marketing - if they just do what we want. :)
 
Good stuff, Shahid! Keep doing your part people, even if they've already chosen not to go this route or vice-versa.
 
open letter to sony:

hello sony,
we are gamers. we are what this is all about. we love your company above all.
please ignore all deals you already made with publishers and all your plans for the future of the ps4. dont go drm style. because gaming is just about us. we are gamers. we flip every coin before we spent it. we resell games so these evil publishers that wont give you exlusives dont get too much money. so please take care of us. please dont listen to your apple consuming money spending mindless consumers. listen to us. we are gamers. we wont pay for any services you offer, but we will talk nice about you in internet forums and to our non existing real life friends. we will boycot you and kill your relatives if you dont listen to us. we are gamers. we love you so hard. M$ is just about $$$ and nintendo is so stupid, they dont even have ea games. give us used games, plz.
 
Hey guys... remember when Sony music CDs installed a rootkit onto your PC?

I hope so much that Sony died in a fire.
 
gofreak said:
It can't hurt, so I've whipped together an open letter / call to action page:

http://gofreak-ie.appspot.com/ps4usedgames

Feedback on the wording or content or other ideas welcome.
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It's really good, the focus is really on the one thing - tweet this message. Don't confuse it by adding more messages or buttons at the top. You could even remove one of the messages above the button by joining "If you want used games..." with "Tweet it to PlayStation:" into one sentence.

At the end I would add all other sharing functions you want, after the end of the letter. Facebook like button for the page itself, reddit.. hacker news? What ever you can think of.
 
Ramenman said:
Guys, internet message board posters are only a vocal minority of actual customers.
Sony's plans are already set in stone, and if you end up liking them more than Microsoft's, it won't be because of a few twitspams.

It's like DLC, or Online Passes or whatever. Very few people actually get mad over it, that's why they're still here.
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Honestly how do people keep saying this? Haven't there been enough incidences where the backlash on the internet over a gaming fuckup either proved to help bring about change or mirrored those concerns of the casual user? How many times do we have to see someone save face before people start accepting that, at this day and age, the internet is a lot more relevant in getting across a message and is a lot more closer to reality than a lot would like to believe.
 
nubbe said:
Xbone was the best Sony PR ever
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People are the best Sony PR. They probably can't believe all the extra PR they are getting for people in sites like gaf. People forget that they are a corporation, not our friends :/, they want your money, they don't necessarily want to do the rigth thing. Remembers me of MS and the 360, they got gamers help to defend issues as the RROD or the xbox live fee.
 
Gori said:
It's really good, the focus is really on the one thing - tweet this message. Don't confuse it by adding more messages or buttons at the top. You could even remove one of the messages above the button by joining "If you want used games..." with "Tweet it to PlayStation:" into one sentence.

At the end I would add all other sharing functions you want, after the end of the letter. Facebook like button for the page itself, reddit.. hacker news? What ever you can think of.
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Yeah, thanks for the advice, I might do that.

With facebook, it's just a plain like button, right? There's no concept of hashtags or a mechanism to direct attention to - say - Playstation, or whatever? Just want to make sure I do that one correctly.
 
itxaka said:
People are the best Sony PR. They probably can't believe all the extra PR they are getting for people in sites like gaf. People forget that they are a corporation, not our friends :/, they want your money, they don't necessarily want to do the rigth thing. Remembers me of MS and the 360, they got gamers help to defend issues as the RROD or the xbox live fee.
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If they figure out that the goodwill of no-DRM will propel their brand and get them more money... "I'm okay with this".
 
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