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[Sakura]

Your own numbers aren't making sense. It's 5 1/2-ish going on 6. Yes, your plastic toy of choice is getting on in years.

It launched November 2020. So its first year ended November 2021. Second year November 2022. Third year November 2023. Fourth year November 2024. 5th year November 2025, which hasn't happened yet.
The only way Adam's numbers make sense is if we are saying its second year started January 2021, 2 months after the thing was released. Which is dumb as hell and literally nobody counts that way.

 

[demigod]

We are in the 6th year of the current generation, fam.

Circana disagrees with you.

PS5 Is Outpacing PS4 While Xbox Series Trails Xbox One In Sales

According to the latest sales data in the United States, the PS5 is outpacing the PS4 while the Xbox Series trails the Xbox One.

insider-gaming.com

 

[Little Chicken]

This is very concerning news for the future of PlayStation, an expensive platform with expensive games where you can only play in one place and no robust subscription service or handheld on the horizon.

 

[MayauMiao]

All this news does is to increase Switch 2 sales.

 

[Physiognomonics]

very predictible. Europe are paying for US tariffs. Europe have been milked by Sony for decades to reduce US prices.

 

[firegamer273]

greed has no limits .

 

[hemo memo]

Increase in MENA? What!

 

[Darkness_Arises]

PS5 price to rise in Europe, Australia and New Zealand

Disc Drive for PS5 price will also be reduced in these regions.

blog.playstation.com

Feeling so lucky to have grabbed the PS5 slim digital for just 309.99 GBP last year. This is outrageous and insane and there is no way this gen is ending before 2029-30. Missed on the Switch 2 preorders due to work, I need to get a preorder in as I am sure that it will also go up in price and never come down.

 

[nial]

Increase in MENA? What!

Every region controlled by Sony Interactive Entertainment Europe Ltd. is affected (except for India, for some reason).

 

[Killjoy-NL]

It's pretty rare to be better off as an early adopter.

 

[FingerBang]

What? Only console to go up in price after launch. Twice.

That's called being the market leader! Microsoft should learn a thing or two!

 

[whyman]

So Sony decides to punish everyone except America, that is causing this situation? Got it, another company I will never support again.

 

[adamsapple]

So Sony decides to punish everyone except America, that is causing this situation? Got it, another company I will never support again.

They're gonna recoup that extra tariff cost from elsewhere without fucking up their primary market where it sells the most.

 

[Esppiral]

Why are they increasing the price in Europe? Because reasons? Is the US that increased the tariffs, this people treat us as subnormals

 

[Mibu no ookami]

So Sony decides to punish everyone except America, that is causing this situation? Got it, another company I will never support again.

LOL, I sometimes wonder about the mentality of gamers.

Why do you see this as a "punishment"? It's a business. They're looking to improve their margins where they can. America is causing the issue but increasing the price in the US isn't much of an option for them. That's just the reality. If Microsoft doesn't increase the price, they'll let their biggest competitor make ground in the most competitive market.

As for not supporting them again, it sounds like if this is such a big deal to you, that you probably don't own a PS5 even after more than 4 years on the market. Doesn't seem like you were "supporting" them to begin with.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

It's pretty rare to be better off as an early adopter.

Imagine not getitng to play nextgen games for more than 4 years AND having to pay more for the same console later.

That being said, people are also making too big a deal of this. Outside of Australia, it looks like this is only impacting the PS5 Digital, which was already the lowest selling SKU of the 3.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Blame Nintendo

Jokes aside expect more of this across the board, price of the PS6 should be... interesting lol

 

[Ashamam]

They're gonna recoup that extra tariff cost from elsewhere without fucking up their primary market where it sells the most.

Except the exemption isn't the exemption everyone thought it was, so stay tuned on the whole 'primary' market.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Jokes aside expect more of this across the board, price of the PS6 should be... interesting lol

I see the PS5 and PS6 generations being the longest cross gen period ever.

Where most games run on PS5 but simply look better and run nicer on PS6. PS5 games will drop to 30 fps and be devoid of expensive features like RTX, but PS6 will deliver high end upscaled graphics perhaps with an NPU, but yeah I expect it to be really expensive.

PS5 and PS6 will exist on the market at the same time. The Switch 2 basically guarantees a long cross platform life cycle.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Except the exemption isn't the exemption everyone thought it was, so stay tuned on the whole 'primary' market.

If Sony was smart they've been full steam ahead on PS5 stockpiling and what we'll see is probably a supply drain in Europe as a result, which should keep sales brisk at least until GTA6 comes out.

I'm sure every PS5 Sony makes right now is headed to the US. You stockpile 2+ years worth of inventory in the US and you'll never really have to raise prices due to tariffs.

I do wonder what this will do to any possible plans for a PS5 Super Slim on 3nm.

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[Ashamam]

I'm sure every PS5 Sony makes right now is headed to the US. You stockpile 2+ years worth of inventory in the US and you'll never really have to raise prices due to tariffs.

2 yrs? You are dreaming. There isn't two years worth of US stock from any electronics manufacturer sitting on the shelf worldwide. A few months maybe, but then you will run up against 'Just in time' manufacturing theory. There is a limit to running other territories dry on stock as well, so if they prioritise the states its not going to be every PS5 by a long shot.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

but yeah I expect it to be really expensive.

I've been there day 1 for every PlayStation console including the Pro models (well, had to wait 2 months with base PS5 lottery in Japan to get mine) so it really doesn't matter but that doesn't mean I won't criticize it if the price is bananas. I'll add I really don't want to see it until holiday 2028 though SONY might push 2027.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

2 yrs? You are dreaming. There isn't two years worth of US stock from any electronics manufacturer sitting on the shelf worldwide. A few months maybe, but then you will run up against 'Just in time' manufacturing theory.

First ask yourself how much 2 years worth of stock is. Second, you seem to think this is about retail shelves... it isn't...

Sony has their own warehouses and they have their own retail site that is direct to consumer.

It is a lot cheaper to store PS5s in stockpile than to have to increase price potentially 25% or more.

JIT manufacturing is great in theory, but that's in ideal situations without tariffs that can increase in cost at anytime and supply chains that can increase in cost at anytime.

 

[peish]

I think is a good strategy moving forward. Launch at 499, raise msrp few years later.

people are still buying, people are still lttp and willing to pay current prices.

 

[dotnotbot]

You will see significant price increase in US soon enough, don't worry.

 

[SweetTooth]

This couldn't be because of tariffs, it has to be the exchange rates. Shitty situation all around.

 

[hemo memo]

Blame Nintendo

Jokes aside expect more of this across the board, price of the PS6 should be... interesting lol

I expect the return of $599.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

I expect the return of $599.

Then you need to raise (lower? lol) your expectations, the Pro cost $699, there is no way PS6 will be anything less then that and almost guaranteed to be more.

 

[Rbk_3]

Best day 1 console purchase of my life.

This is how I feel about buying a 4090 on launch day

 

[Ashamam]

JIT manufacturing is great in theory, but that's in ideal situations without tariffs that can increase in cost at anytime and supply chains that can increase in cost at anytime.

Its not just a theory, its been the foundation of manufacturing for many years now. There hasn't been a need for stockpiling in electronics, if you make it you can sell it (well PS5's anyway). The tariffs are new, you don't pivot your entire logistics chain in a few weeks.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Presumably, originally Sony felt compelled to have a cheaper option on the market. So, they disproportionately reduced the price of the disc-less version to make that happen. I reckon there's a good chance that they've been selling the digital PS5 at break even at best, and certainly at a loss at times.

I would be willing to bet that most software sales are digital, irrespective of the sku that's purchased. I'd also guess the market has proven to be less price sensitive than Sony thought. Result: Sony reassessing the cost of hardware and the benefit of selling one SKU for a disproportionally low price.

I don't see it as particularly likely that they'll try and make the rest of the world pay for Trump tariffs.

 

[Zathalus]

This could be due to exchange rates. There was a large drop in the Euro value between November to March. With the way stock and imports work, what happened to a currency months ago can only reflect now. For that to be true we should see a price cut in a few months again if the current strength of the Euro holds.

 

[Impotaku]

LOL greedstation5 still trying to recoup that concord money by overcharging yet again on 5 year old hardware. I guess sony is worse than ea & ubisoft now.

 

[DinoD]

 

[Mr Reasonable]

LOL greedstation5 still trying to recoup that concord money by overcharging yet again on 5 year old hardware. I guess sony is worse than ea & ubisoft now.

I'd love to see this quote make it, word for word, into a Financial Times round up of the current state of consumer electronics pricing, with reference to current economic conditions affecting manufacturing and sales.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Nice. Instead of 399->199 last gen for old hardware it's 399->499 current gen for old hardware.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I thought the ps5 was turning a profit. Even the digital one.

A generation of lies imo.

 

[Dr.D00p]

This couldn't be because of tariffs, it has to be the exchange rates. Shitty situation all around.

The Dollar has weakened against other major currencies, prices should be going down in non US territories.

Make no mistake, this is Sony blatantly protecting US customers from their own idiocy by making everyone else pay more.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Dat switch 2 looking to make more sense.

The Dollar has weakened against other major currencies, prices should be going down in non US territories.

Make no mistake, this is Sony blatantly protecting US customers from their own idiocy by making everyone else pay more.

Well, fuck them then. Same for any company that does this over Americas dumb ass decisions.

All love to my level headed American peeps but your government needs to step away from world events and stop making stupid ass decisions.

 

[Baemono]

Can't believe he pretends to be 224lbs (and 6 foot 3)

 

[Panajev2001a]

The PS5's APU is from 2018 and they're increasing prices in 2025, unless there's some kind of breakthrough that makes manufacturing costs fall off a cliff at this point I'll be surprised if they manage to have a PS6 cost just 700$.
Unless they simply keep the TFLOPs the same but go all in on AI tech to give them the necessary generational leap that they can't get by fully upgrading the hardware without costs jumping through the roof.
Kinda like they did with the Pro, CPU is the same, GPU is mostly the same just a bit more juiced up and with AI cores injected into it. But I don't even want to think about such a scenario tbh, it sounds lame as fuck...

PS5 Slim APU did get a die shrink and it is technically a newer chip on a more modern manufacturing process…

Still, considering the chip is smaller and should be easier to manufacture and the console itself reduced costs a lot in terms of cooling solution (far less copper needed for the same effective cooling performance)… yeah… it is hard seeing two price increases in a row.

If Nintendo does not tweak its launch price, it will look better and better when its competition does and does it upwards.

 

[.Xeno]

This really has me thinking for PS6 is it worth it anymore, specially with a high end PC.
I own every gen Sony console, but it's getting to the point with these prices in Australia where it's a joke.
Question is will they have the balls to increase the US price and if so by how much.

 

[xcalibersa]

Honestly. Screw Sony. Making the rest of the world pay more so they don't increase the price in usa

 

[SkylineRKR]

lol Pro isn't getting a hike. Thats all you need to know.

Base PS5 with disc drive is likely being phased out. Why else is it technically the same price as the DE now.

 

[NekoFever]

By this point in its life, the PS2 was $149 (half its launch price), and less than a year away from dropping to $129. Remember when consoles got cheaper with time?

 

[SkylineRKR]

By this point in its life, the PS2 was $149 (half its launch price), and less than a year away from dropping to $129. Remember when consoles got cheaper with time?

Dat Cube for 99 late 2003.

It was great. I had all 3 with much less disposable income. You could buy a used system for sub 100 bucks easily.

 

[DinoD]

Smart move by Sony. Addressing the major complain about PS5 pro price being almost twice as PS5 , while ripping hard working Aussies an extra 30 bucks in the process.

 

[Signalis]

PAY HAS NO LIMITS

 

[Goalus]

It's all worth it for Marathon

I prefer playing it on Xbox.