PS5 price to rise in Europe, Australia and New Zealand
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Cyberpunkd
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I have to pay for the orange muppet? Fuck you Sony, I'm good. No worries, my kids will survive not playing the latest PS shit.
Grow a fucking backbone.
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Topher
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Yep. This looks incredibly opportunistic to me.
proandrad
Member
Health care cost for that team must be astronomical. Probably have an in studio pharmacy.Sony gotta make money back to pay off salaries for the bungie marathon devteam
Dr.D00p
Member
I wouldn't worry about PS6.
China's invasion of Taiwan will put a stop to that, anyway.
StueyDuck
Member
Prices rise globally every year, the rest of the world: "Nah, this is normal"
Prices rise like they do globally every year, except Trump admin implements tariffs. The rest of the world: "YOU SEE THE BAD ORANGE MAN, GRRRRR (smears faeces on face)"
This doesn't have anything to do with that, and it was most likely a planned increase in price since last year already.
I bought the NS day 1 in SA for R5.5K, fast forward to this year, and that same OG NS will cost R8-9K easily.
The same thing, not the OLED or whatever. Anyone who hasn't lived in the US for the past 10 years would know that this is a consistent thing that has continued to happen over the years and will remain doing so because the world economy is so fucked, and lets be honest, most nations are corrupt as fuck. Does SA really need a nearly 70% tax on electronics? Of course not, it's just sweet corruption money for the government.
Prices rise like they do globally every year, except Trump admin implements tariffs. The rest of the world: "YOU SEE THE BAD ORANGE MAN, GRRRRR (smears faeces on face)"
This doesn't have anything to do with that, and it was most likely a planned increase in price since last year already.
I bought the NS day 1 in SA for R5.5K, fast forward to this year, and that same OG NS will cost R8-9K easily.
The same thing, not the OLED or whatever. Anyone who hasn't lived in the US for the past 10 years would know that this is a consistent thing that has continued to happen over the years and will remain doing so because the world economy is so fucked, and lets be honest, most nations are corrupt as fuck. Does SA really need a nearly 70% tax on electronics? Of course not, it's just sweet corruption money for the government.
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Reizo Ryuu
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500 for a digital only console lmao; pure madness/greed.
Also
BennyBlanco
your OP is unreadable now in dark mode.
Also
BennyBlanco
your OP is unreadable now in dark mode.
Bojji
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You mean for all those men that have periods?
Unknown?
Member
That's the problem, the Euro is only going up against other currencies that are falling. They are ALL going down, just sometimes they go down slower than others which makes it seem like it's going up to people on TV who don't understand how our global monetary system works. Why Sony is just doing it here is not related and due to uhhhh "reasons" that aren't beneficial to the consumer.
Can paper/digital unbacked currency just die and we go back to sound money?
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'm pretty sure this is the only generation that console prices have increased.
Sony knows people are invested in their ecosystem and most won't just switch to Xbox, Nintendo or PC. That gives them the excuse to raise prices without much fear of backlash.
They could probably get away with the PS6 costing £800 or more. If you've already invested in a large PSN library then Sony knows you'll likely take the hit. We'll complain, but Sony have us by the nuts and are slowly squeezing.
Sony knows people are invested in their ecosystem and most won't just switch to Xbox, Nintendo or PC. That gives them the excuse to raise prices without much fear of backlash.
They could probably get away with the PS6 costing £800 or more. If you've already invested in a large PSN library then Sony knows you'll likely take the hit. We'll complain, but Sony have us by the nuts and are slowly squeezing.
PeteBull
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Sony can arguably make a valid argument all their current gen playstation consoles gained substantial value in 2025, ps5 players getting access to previous xbox console exclusives after all, so yup, ps5 is and will continue to get much pricer but u getting value of 2 consoles in one
(Yes i know i sound like particular sony fanboy in that post, but what u gonna do, sometimes u have to agree with their take if it actually makes sense
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Putonahappyface
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Consumers stop being poor.
DenchDeckard
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DenchDeckard
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Sony can arguably make a valid argument all their current gen playstation consoles gained substantial value in 2025, ps5 players getting access to previous xbox console exclusives after all, so yup, ps5 is and will continue to get much pricer but u getting value of 2 consoles in one
(Yes i know i sound like particular sony fanboy in that post, but what u gonna do, sometimes u have to agree with their take if it actually makes sense
hahaha, I applaud this spin!
GG Pete
No BBC=Anger
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I'm glad I always buy consoles second hand. All ten consoles second hand and never a problem with any of them. Maybe I'm just lucky but it's always an option.
Lysandros
Member
I think it's about time for Europe to teach Sony a bitter lesson. To treat their most loyal territory/costumers in worst manner for years, long overdue. Honestly, i think this generation's Sony is the most insufferable one when it comes to policies. And i am saying that as a person who only owned Playstation consoles in his life. Enough is enough.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Here I am trying to be nice to you, and instead you act like a jackass. Welp, I won't be doing that again that's for sure.
Anyway to pick apart some of this, the idea they're padding the price outside of America to improve margins for a single 3P AAA release that will mainly dominate the American market (GTA is super popular but it's also a very US-centric series in terms of appeal and themes, clearly) doesn't make a lot of sense for two reasons. One is because the game's actual sales performance isn't known yet...because it's yet to release.
Yes analysts and whoever will be predicting monstrous sales, but GTA6 isn't going to hit 100 million overnight. It may not even hit 100 million units at all. Margins are still tied to units at some level; you can't just retroactively increase the price on what amount of units have been already sold to make up for less units sold on the whole. GTA6 could have a massive 20-million Day 1 launch at $100 a pop, and then start tracking much slower until the price drops. If the price drops, total margins drop. If game unit sales drop, that drives down demand for PS5s. That means generally less margins for SIE because they can't price out a MSRP increase based on future sales data of a game which hasn't even released yet.
The second reason is because boosting the price in non-American territories will not improve margins in those territories as much as you think they will if relying on the GTA6 Effect. That's because I'm willing to bet a lot of would-be GTA6 buyers already purchased PS5s last year in places like Europe, when SIE were doing semi-regular pricing sales across the region that didn't get seen in territories like Japan or America. It's not like GTA6's existence was an unknown in 2024; everyone's seen the trailer by now. They know it's coming, and a sizable chunk of the launch day audience have either had PS5s since its launch, or got PS5s between the official GTA6 trailer drop and (for Europe) during 2024 when sales promotions were regularly happening. With the way console pricing trends have been the past few years I don't think it's unrealistic to estimate at least 60% of the Day 1/launch period GTA6 owners already have PS5s, specifically in places like Europe, where that percentage could even be a bit higher.
Why would a lower disc drive price boost Pro sales when most Pro owners are likely to lean digital? Why would GTA6 physical be the game to drive PS5 Pro sales? If someone's buying a PS5 Pro, and then they're looking at a potentially $90 (maybe even more?) GTA6 whether physical or digital, chances are they aren't going to buy a disc drive. The whole point of decoupling the drive from the system was SIE's way of facilitating more digital game sales traffic, that includes titles like GTA6. The typical PS5 Pro owner is probably already deep into the ecosystem, which means they likely favor digital to some extent (in terms of the majority of their purchases), and they know they'll have means of playing their digital copy of GTA6 on a PS6. So why would they need a disc drive?
And no I do know how expensive PS5 got in Japan, but the thing is it was for a long while actually cheaper in Japan relative countries like America because of the weaker yen, and SIE didn't adjust the MSRP for a while in spite of that. That first price increase in Japan, was actually them setting the cost more at parity to what the system was priced at in non-Japanese markets, but it was still a price increase so of course it was seen negatively. While the price increases have slowed down hardware sales to an extent, you seem to have forgotten that PS5 was trending much higher than PS4 launch-aligned in Japan starting around late 2022 once supply got better, and all the way up until the first price increase. So basically, even if the price increases have since slowed down that trend, it has still managed to overall match PS4 launch-aligned in the market and realistically, even without the initial shortages or price increases, it'd of settled into this sales pattern anyhow.
So yes, the bigger indication of platform health is in the software, and trying to write off the Famitsu or Media Create charts is asinine. Digital ratio is much lower in Japan versus various Western countries, so you need strong physical sales to ensure you've got healthy digital sales, more often than not. That's why PS5's struggle to have almost any games regularly show up in the Top 10 was deeply concerning; they weren't somehow getting all those additional physical sales down in the bottom 30 of the charts, not in volumes that mattered. Since SIE have implemented the rental program and gotten a better flow of games more appealing to the Japanese market, the software sales have improved noticeably and we see that in the Top 10 chart placements. Hopefully that continues, and hopefully absolute numbers in those placements continue to be strong or improve.
Also I understand if you're too stubborn to see why the Portal is arguably SIE's best asset in Japan, you know, the market where portable gaming has pretty much made stationary home console gaming its bitch. But maybe you'll come around to understanding it later
Mibu no ookami
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Here I am trying to be nice to you, and instead you act like a jackass. Welp, I won't be doing that again that's for sure.
Anyway to pick apart some of this, the idea they're padding the price outside of America to improve margins for a single 3P AAA release that will mainly dominate the American market (GTA is super popular but it's also a very US-centric series in terms of appeal and themes, clearly) doesn't make a lot of sense for two reasons. One is because the game's actual sales performance isn't known yet...because it's yet to release.
Yes analysts and whoever will be predicting monstrous sales, but GTA6 isn't going to hit 100 million overnight. It may not even hit 100 million units at all. Margins are still tied to units at some level; you can't just retroactively increase the price on what amount of units have been already sold to make up for less units sold on the whole. GTA6 could have a massive 20-million Day 1 launch at $100 a pop, and then start tracking much slower until the price drops. If the price drops, total margins drop. If game unit sales drop, that drives down demand for PS5s. That means generally less margins for SIE because they can't price out a MSRP increase based on future sales data of a game which hasn't even released yet.
The second reason is because boosting the price in non-American territories will not improve margins in those territories as much as you think they will if relying on the GTA6 Effect. That's because I'm willing to bet a lot of would-be GTA6 buyers already purchased PS5s last year in places like Europe, when SIE were doing semi-regular pricing sales across the region that didn't get seen in territories like Japan or America. It's not like GTA6's existence was an unknown in 2024; everyone's seen the trailer by now. They know it's coming, and a sizable chunk of the launch day audience have either had PS5s since its launch, or got PS5s between the official GTA6 trailer drop and (for Europe) during 2024 when sales promotions were regularly happening. With the way console pricing trends have been the past few years I don't think it's unrealistic to estimate at least 60% of the Day 1/launch period GTA6 owners already have PS5s, specifically in places like Europe, where that percentage could even be a bit higher.
Why would a lower disc drive price boost Pro sales when most Pro owners are likely to lean digital? Why would GTA6 physical be the game to drive PS5 Pro sales? If someone's buying a PS5 Pro, and then they're looking at a potentially $90 (maybe even more?) GTA6 whether physical or digital, chances are they aren't going to buy a disc drive. The whole point of decoupling the drive from the system was SIE's way of facilitating more digital game sales traffic, that includes titles like GTA6. The typical PS5 Pro owner is probably already deep into the ecosystem, which means they likely favor digital to some extent (in terms of the majority of their purchases), and they know they'll have means of playing their digital copy of GTA6 on a PS6. So why would they need a disc drive?
And no I do know how expensive PS5 got in Japan, but the thing is it was for a long while actually cheaper in Japan relative countries like America because of the weaker yen, and SIE didn't adjust the MSRP for a while in spite of that. That first price increase in Japan, was actually them setting the cost more at parity to what the system was priced at in non-Japanese markets, but it was still a price increase so of course it was seen negatively. While the price increases have slowed down hardware sales to an extent, you seem to have forgotten that PS5 was trending much higher than PS4 launch-aligned in Japan starting around late 2022 once supply got better, and all the way up until the first price increase. So basically, even if the price increases have since slowed down that trend, it has still managed to overall match PS4 launch-aligned in the market and realistically, even without the initial shortages or price increases, it'd of settled into this sales pattern anyhow.
So yes, the bigger indication of platform health is in the software, and trying to write off the Famitsu or Media Create charts is asinine. Digital ratio is much lower in Japan versus various Western countries, so you need strong physical sales to ensure you've got healthy digital sales, more often than not. That's why PS5's struggle to have almost any games regularly show up in the Top 10 was deeply concerning; they weren't somehow getting all those additional physical sales down in the bottom 30 of the charts, not in volumes that mattered. Since SIE have implemented the rental program and gotten a better flow of games more appealing to the Japanese market, the software sales have improved noticeably and we see that in the Top 10 chart placements. Hopefully that continues, and hopefully absolute numbers in those placements continue to be strong or improve.
Also I understand if you're too stubborn to see why the Portal is arguably SIE's best asset in Japan, you know, the market where portable gaming has pretty much made stationary home console gaming its bitch. But maybe you'll come around to understanding it later
I'm sorry that happened to you or congratulations, but I'm not reading all of that.
Impotaku
Member
In between hiking the price up for everyone but americans they also shadow dropped pics the prototype of the new PS5 portal revision. To save money they have done away with the colour screen and now has a innovative card reader that takes all major credit cards, just simply swipe to start streaming and it will handily count your playtime and charge your card accordingly. This revision will be exclusively be sold only outside the usa.
PlayStaytion
Member
999 running at 30fps. I don't care if DF kept talking about 60 Fps support, it's still gonna be the go to platform to run games @30fps.
xrnzaaas
Member
So the next step will be to slowly shutdown the production of the disc model and move the attention towards attachable drives? Because what's the point of buying a digital-only model if the bluray one costs (roughly) the same? (I'm talking about the pricing in Europe)
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Musashipan
Member
Of course from now one every price raise is going to be President Donald Trumps fault
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Here I am trying to be nice to you, and instead you act like a jackass. Welp, I won't be doing that again that's for sure.
Anyway to pick apart some of this, the idea they're padding the price outside of America to improve margins for a single 3P AAA release that will mainly dominate the American market (GTA is super popular but it's also a very US-centric series in terms of appeal and themes, clearly) doesn't make a lot of sense for two reasons. One is because the game's actual sales performance isn't known yet...because it's yet to release.
Yes analysts and whoever will be predicting monstrous sales, but GTA6 isn't going to hit 100 million overnight. It may not even hit 100 million units at all. Margins are still tied to units at some level; you can't just retroactively increase the price on what amount of units have been already sold to make up for less units sold on the whole. GTA6 could have a massive 20-million Day 1 launch at $100 a pop, and then start tracking much slower until the price drops. If the price drops, total margins drop. If game unit sales drop, that drives down demand for PS5s. That means generally less margins for SIE because they can't price out a MSRP increase based on future sales data of a game which hasn't even released yet.
The second reason is because boosting the price in non-American territories will not improve margins in those territories as much as you think they will if relying on the GTA6 Effect. That's because I'm willing to bet a lot of would-be GTA6 buyers already purchased PS5s last year in places like Europe, when SIE were doing semi-regular pricing sales across the region that didn't get seen in territories like Japan or America. It's not like GTA6's existence was an unknown in 2024; everyone's seen the trailer by now. They know it's coming, and a sizable chunk of the launch day audience have either had PS5s since its launch, or got PS5s between the official GTA6 trailer drop and (for Europe) during 2024 when sales promotions were regularly happening. With the way console pricing trends have been the past few years I don't think it's unrealistic to estimate at least 60% of the Day 1/launch period GTA6 owners already have PS5s, specifically in places like Europe, where that percentage could even be a bit higher.
Why would a lower disc drive price boost Pro sales when most Pro owners are likely to lean digital? Why would GTA6 physical be the game to drive PS5 Pro sales? If someone's buying a PS5 Pro, and then they're looking at a potentially $90 (maybe even more?) GTA6 whether physical or digital, chances are they aren't going to buy a disc drive. The whole point of decoupling the drive from the system was SIE's way of facilitating more digital game sales traffic, that includes titles like GTA6. The typical PS5 Pro owner is probably already deep into the ecosystem, which means they likely favor digital to some extent (in terms of the majority of their purchases), and they know they'll have means of playing their digital copy of GTA6 on a PS6. So why would they need a disc drive?
And no I do know how expensive PS5 got in Japan, but the thing is it was for a long while actually cheaper in Japan relative countries like America because of the weaker yen, and SIE didn't adjust the MSRP for a while in spite of that. That first price increase in Japan, was actually them setting the cost more at parity to what the system was priced at in non-Japanese markets, but it was still a price increase so of course it was seen negatively. While the price increases have slowed down hardware sales to an extent, you seem to have forgotten that PS5 was trending much higher than PS4 launch-aligned in Japan starting around late 2022 once supply got better, and all the way up until the first price increase. So basically, even if the price increases have since slowed down that trend, it has still managed to overall match PS4 launch-aligned in the market and realistically, even without the initial shortages or price increases, it'd of settled into this sales pattern anyhow.
So yes, the bigger indication of platform health is in the software, and trying to write off the Famitsu or Media Create charts is asinine. Digital ratio is much lower in Japan versus various Western countries, so you need strong physical sales to ensure you've got healthy digital sales, more often than not. That's why PS5's struggle to have almost any games regularly show up in the Top 10 was deeply concerning; they weren't somehow getting all those additional physical sales down in the bottom 30 of the charts, not in volumes that mattered. Since SIE have implemented the rental program and gotten a better flow of games more appealing to the Japanese market, the software sales have improved noticeably and we see that in the Top 10 chart placements. Hopefully that continues, and hopefully absolute numbers in those placements continue to be strong or improve.
Also I understand if you're too stubborn to see why the Portal is arguably SIE's best asset in Japan, you know, the market where portable gaming has pretty much made stationary home console gaming its bitch. But maybe you'll come around to understanding it later
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Hawk The Slayer
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Live in the U.S and was planning on getting a PS5 last year but that thought has now passed since the games I want for it like Stellar Blade, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, and Rebirth have now all released on PC so don't care for it anymore.
DenchDeckard
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I would really like to see a statement from Sony explaining why the world outside of the US has seen two price increases on the ps5 but America hasn't seen one.
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PlayStaytion
Member
I don't want to be mean about the ps6, I'm tired from grifting, Asmongold and marathon recently. I'm optimistic and really wish the ps6 to be nothing less than great.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It could be scary how much PS6 and PS6 Pro cost
$700 and $1000 respectively (or more).
Bojji
Member
proandrad
Member
Art of the deal.
PatientGamer
Member
This has to be the only time it made sense to be an early adopter of gaming hardware. I would've counted the OG PS3 as well, but YLOD was rampant enough to be a deterrent.
£430 for a Slim PS5, 4.5 years AFTER launch date, that is insane.
Well, you know what they say. Those who failed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
53 months to be precise.
£430 for a Slim PS5, 4.5 years AFTER launch date, that is insane.
Well, you know what they say. Those who failed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
I see what you're getting at, but the PS5 came out in November of 2020. So it's only had 4.4 years on the market so far.
53 months to be precise.
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Radical_3d
Member
Sadly this isn't going to happen. You know us.
Wrong.
200$ and 250$. 1.500€ and A Mortage € respectively.
Your mama's
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Raising price is shitty yes, BUT... you are still getting most powerful console this gen. The best value for your bucks.
Signalis
Member
Kak en betaal, is die wet van Transvaal
mathello
Member
I still have to buy a PS5 and need a blu ray player in the house. I think its even smarter to get the slim and disc drive because PS6 might still use the disc drive. I get a bonus later in the year if everything works out, so that will be the time, price on the used market is not so bad, people let it go for 300 euros.
Great Auk
Member
It's still cheaper in Europe with disc compared to the US.
Doesn't anyone know their country's VAT system?
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Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
I think 600 to 650 for PS6.
MacReady13
Member
According to the pundits, the PS5/Series X and S generation is the last console generation so no need to worry about that! Same as they said for the PS4 and PS3! Consoles are dead!
Great Auk
Member
This comment has nothing to do with actual reality man.
Btw you know your PS5 would cost only 415 Euros if it wasn't for the outrageous 20% VAT you get slapped with? In the US the PS5 is around $540.
Europe has always been getting the best deal.
