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[karappononingen]

Totally agree. For that price, it's better to buy a PC instead of a PS5

PS5 is 80,000 yen, might as well get a PC!

Looks up GPU prices : 90,000 yen for a 4070, 45-50k for a 4060. And that's just one component (the most expensive one).

 

[skyfinch]

I bet Xbox is so hot now in Japan.

Placing it too close to the wall can cause this. Make sure the Xbox has proper ventilation.

 

[rodrigolfp]

PS5 is 80,000 yen, might as well get a PC!

Looks up GPU prices : 90,000 yen for a 4070, 45-50k for a 4060. And that's just one component (the most expensive one).

It works like that with PC. The more expensive the console is, a better deal a PC is. It never was about paying the same or less.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Why do you care whether the price drops?

The cost of components has increased. We haven't seen global inflation like this since before the NES launched.

PS5 components?

We already know Sony was making a profit off each unit sold, and prices don’t generally go up with old tech.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Turns out japan prioritises quality goods and services

By not buying Xboxes.

 

[TheBomb]

Microsoft has done the same in Japan. Call down!

 

[Mibu no ookami]

PS5 components?

We already know Sony was making a profit off each unit sold, and prices don’t generally go up with old tech.

Don't know how many times I have to debunk this, but Sony has consistently reported losses on hardware for years.

And prices HAVE gone up, we aren't experiencing general pricing.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Consoles should be dropping in price, what a generation...

It’s due to scalpels going to Japan and buying it in loads to resell elsewhere.

 

[Unknown?]

"Better buy a PC instead".

Go Japan go.

For even more money? Nah.

 

[reinking]

Turns out japan prioritises quality goods and services

As been proven this entire generation so far...

 

[SmokedMeat]

Don't know how many times I have to debunk this, but Sony has consistently reported losses on hardware for years.

And prices HAVE gone up, we aren't experiencing general pricing.

I’ve always read on GAF that Sony’s profiting off every PS5. If that’s not true then so be it, but there’s no way they haven’t slashed manufacturing costs on them.
Something else is driving prices up.

 

[rodrigolfp]

but Sony has consistently reported losses on hardware for years.

Since when exactly?

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

It works like that with PC. The more expensive the console is, a better deal a PC is. It never was about paying the same or less.

The thing is, what's making prices increase on consoles is also increasing the prices on PCs. That's what people are failing to talk about lol. It's not like GPUs, graphic cards, CPus, etc are all cheap for PC and brands like Sony are the only ones having trouble to get less expensive. Hell no one even includes a controller when talking about building a PC but that's also something to be considered and they aren't cheap nowadays.

 

[Mr Moose]

Since when exactly?

That's 3+ years old.

 

[rodrigolfp]

The thing is, what's making prices increase on consoles is also increasing the prices on PCs. That's what people are failing to talk about lol. It's not like GPUs, graphic cards, CPus, etc are all cheap for PC and brands like Sony are the only ones having trouble to get less expensive. Hell no one even includes a controller when talking about building a PC but that's also something to be considered and they aren't cheap nowadays.

You don't include mouse+kb when buying a console. It's optional.

That's 3+ years old.

Since when exactly?

 

[SJRB]

> “X-box sales shot up”
> #8
> one user quote, no mention of Xbox but talks about buying a PC

 

[Deerock71]

To think this might all be a result of watching Nintendo release the OLED Switch at a higher cost and watching the sales soar...*

*I know that's oversimplified. Relax.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

To think this might all be a result of watching Nintendo release the OLED Switch at a higher cost and watching the sales soar...*

*I know that's oversimplified. Relax.

Speaking of the Switch 2...i can't wait until that thing comes out at a price higher than 400$ and people pretending to be shocked by it as well lmao.

 

[StereoVsn]

Ah sorry, missed that part. PC is definitely taking off in a big way over there and yes is pretty reasonably priced. With the new PS5 prices, it'll probably grow the PC market there even more.

It’s clearly all a plot by Gaben.

Also, I find it hard to believe that Sony is losing money on hardware now, especially after Slim refresh.

Does anyone actually have info from Sony or reputable 3rd parties on that?

 

[RickMasters]

Consoles should be dropping in price, what a generation...

Yeah it’s nuts. Mid cycle price hike…. Last gen seems to be sticking around….. what the hell is going on with the games industry these days?



Makes you wonder just how much is the PS5 pro really gonna cost…..

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Since when exactly?

Read every financial report they've issued in the last 4 years...

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I’ve always read on GAF that Sony’s profiting off every PS5. If that’s not true then so be it, but there’s no way they haven’t slashed manufacturing costs on them.
Something else is driving prices up.

They've discussed multiple times and it has been heavily reported that component costs have gone up. Transportation costs have also gone up.

I'm not sure what to tell you at this point.

 

[SHA]

Japan Xbox.

 

[SHA]

Xbox

 

[hemo memo]

Japan is discovering that Xbox+GP is a way better deal. But seriously, Japan. Just buy a PC. It’s a better long term investment. Sony is a company from your own country and they are screwing you.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Nearly every console generation since the NES days has existed on a timeline where global inflation was small and steady, and the cost of electronic components got cheaper over time. Neither of those things has been true for the last four years.

So, here we are.

We also live in a world where all of these huge companies are making record profits. This isn't all about inflation.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Japan is discovering that Xbox+GP is a way better deal. But seriously, Japan. Just buy a PC. It’s a better long term investment. Sony is a company from your own country and they are screwing you.

I’m surprised they would buy the Series X over the Series S in Japan. I understand for 3rd party games it might be a better price point, but Microsoft has done very little to gain market share in Japan.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Phil is so disconnected from the ground and delusional that they will probably follow with a price increase

 

[Mr Moose]

Phil is so disconnected from the ground and delusional that they will probably follow with a price increase

He did already on the 15th of this month.

 

[Metnut]

PS5 completely sold out. Wow. Amazing to see PS5 selling worldwide at a faster pace than PS4. Consoles truly are king. GTA6 is just going to drive the sales through the roof.

 

[R6Rider]

GTA6 is just going to drive the sales through the roof.

GTA6 release is going to be insane.

We'll see movies moving their dates just like with GTA5.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

If you read the article (and I strongly suggest you don’t, since it is click bait), you will see that the main reason for Xbox sales to rise is that the PS5 consoles are literally sold out.

 

[tmlDan]

but they also increased the price, pretty sure this is an anomaly in one retailer

 

[kOsmikcoffee]

"Better buy a PC instead".

Go Japan go.

Never in my life would I have ever thought I would see a FIlmation's Ghostbusters reference in GAF, but I am so glad I did.

 

[SmokedMeat]

They've discussed multiple times and it has been heavily reported that component costs have gone up. Transportation costs have also gone up.

I'm not sure what to tell you at this point.

Which components?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Which components?

semiconductors, ram, storage.... you know basically everything that costs anything on the PS5...

 

[damidu]

these articles are deliberately to fuck with the xbox userbase at this point. i swear.
not a fan of the hivemind myself, but this is getting cruel

 

[Ebrietas]

The thing is, what's making prices increase on consoles is also increasing the prices on PCs. That's what people are failing to talk about lol. It's not like GPUs, graphic cards, CPus, etc are all cheap for PC and brands like Sony are the only ones having trouble to get less expensive. Hell no one even includes a controller when talking about building a PC but that's also something to be considered and they aren't cheap nowadays.

It's like people forget how much GPU prices have been skyrocketing the past few years, and it's only going to get worse. Console prices have historically been very resistant to inflation.

If someone can't afford a PS5, then a gaming PC/laptop that costs 2-3x as much is not an option.

 

[Chad Warden]

A win is a win.

 

[kazuyamishima]

You don't include mouse+kb when buying a console. It's optional.

what tha hell are you talking about? You need a controller to play on a PS5, and that's included with the console.

You either need a Mouse/Keyboard and/or a controller to play on PC, which ARE NOT included on the price listed in the article.

 

[SmokedMeat]

semiconductors, ram, storage.... you know basically everything that costs anything on the PS5...

RAM and storage prices aren’t up.

My feeling is a corporation like Sony is going to raise the price because they feel the need to, and whatever reason they give for it may not necessarily be the truth.

 

[Banjo64]

We’re talking nominal figures for PS and Xbox in Japan. Switch is where Japanese games thrive. Mobile for everything else. I don’t know what value exists from Xbox in that market.

 

[rodrigolfp]

what tha hell are you talking about? You need a controller to play on a PS5, and that's included with the console.

You either need a Mouse/Keyboard and/or a controller to play on PC, which ARE NOT included on the price listed in the article.

wth are you talking about? I never talked about the article. Read again what I quoted.

 

[Nonehxc]

PS5 now cost near 80,000 yen vs Series X 67,000 yen.​

Source

I see they let Phiru Spenseru alone at the keyboard again

 

[Sakura]

The thing is, what's making prices increase on consoles is also increasing the prices on PCs. That's what people are failing to talk about lol. It's not like GPUs, graphic cards, CPus, etc are all cheap for PC and brands like Sony are the only ones having trouble to get less expensive. Hell no one even includes a controller when talking about building a PC but that's also something to be considered and they aren't cheap nowadays.

The price of the PC components haven't really gone up though. Is the 4000 series more expensive than previous series? Sure. But the price of the 4070 or 4080 haven't been increased after they came out.
So if you are comparing a 67k yen PS5 to a 87k yen GPU (4070 for example) you might decide to just get a PS5. But when the equation becomes 80k PS5 to 87k GPU, maybe some people decide to go down the PC route instead.
Remember a lot of people might already have PCs that just need some components upgraded and don't need a new case, SSD, etc.
A lot of people might also need PCs or laptops for work or school. In my university a laptop was a requirement. So maybe instead of spending 80k on a PS5 too, they just decide to spend an extra 80k on the PC/laptop they were already going to get to play games as well.

The idea is that PCs become more attractive by comparison.
People aren't arguing that it is cheaper to build a PS5 equivalent PC from scratch instead of buying a PS5.

 

[nbcjr]

200% increase.


2 instead of one.

That would be a 100% increase.

 

[Fake]

That would be a 100% increase.

Yeah, the correct word would be 'they are selling 200%' , not '200% increase'.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

RAM and storage prices aren’t up.

My feeling is a corporation like Sony is going to raise the price because they feel the need to, and whatever reason they give for it may not necessarily be the truth.

They absolutely are...

 

[Deerock71]

Speaking of the Switch 2...i can't wait until that thing comes out at a price higher than 400$ and people pretending to be shocked by it as well lmao.

If Nintendo's going with non-OLED panels, I doubt they're going higher than $400.

 

[mckmas8808]

Why is this so funny?