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[Markio128]

I just want to know, finally, total number sold (physical + digital) of Demon’s Souls and (maybe too early) Returnal. Are they really bust, the way it looks like from the outside or not. Morales seems like game of choice for new PS5 owners and that’s least surprising thing here.

And Warnen , that’s quite possibly best GIF I’ve ever seen.

Why are you so keen on knowing the sales of Demon’s Souls and Returnal? As a gamer, all you need to know is that they stand at 92% and 86% respectively on Metacritic. Therefore, they are both great games.

 

[FatKingBallman]

That price for Returnal was a mistake

Was it? PS Store charts for April with just 1 day of tracking says otherwise.

These charts would be so much more useful if they had actual numbers like the Japanese ones. Also where's the Demon's Souls and Returnal stock bump?

How has Demons souls and Returnal performed? I feel like i've never seen them in the charts after the first week. Such a frigging shame.

Demon's Souls after 7 months is still there. Returnal did good after 1 day

PlayStation Store: April 2021 TOP Downloads

Remember digital sales were 79% of the game sold by Sony in last quarter. PS5 Games US / Canada Europe 1 MLB The Show 21 FIFA 21 2 Outriders Outriders 3 Returnal It Takes Two 4 Mortal Kombat 11 Returnal 5 It Takes Two Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War 6 Call of Duty: Black Ops...

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[Duchess]

Planning on getting Miles Morales myself, once I get through my backlog.

Currently got Talos Principle to finish, then Mortal Shell, then DOOM Eternal, then finally Spider-Man..!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Was it? PS Store charts for April with just 1 day of tracking says otherwise.





Demon's Souls after 7 months is still there. Returnal did good after 1 day

PlayStation Store: April 2021 TOP Downloads

Remember digital sales were 79% of the game sold by Sony in last quarter. PS5 Games US / Canada Europe 1 MLB The Show 21 FIFA 21 2 Outriders Outriders 3 Returnal It Takes Two 4 Mortal Kombat 11 Returnal 5 It Takes Two Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War 6 Call of Duty: Black Ops...

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Playstation store also has no real numbers sadly. The only real numbers we can infer are from physical sales in Japan. Returnal was #1 in the PS Store Japan charts in April, but it only took something like 2000 sold digital copies to achieve that #1 placement. Imagine selling 2000 copies and being #1 for the entire month. Just further confirms that software sales are very weak (at least in Japan).

 

[jroc74]

Was it? PS Store charts for April with just 1 day of tracking says otherwise.





Demon's Souls after 7 months is still there. Returnal did good after 1 day

PlayStation Store: April 2021 TOP Downloads

Remember digital sales were 79% of the game sold by Sony in last quarter. PS5 Games US / Canada Europe 1 MLB The Show 21 FIFA 21 2 Outriders Outriders 3 Returnal It Takes Two 4 Mortal Kombat 11 Returnal 5 It Takes Two Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War 6 Call of Duty: Black Ops...

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Yeah, for both of those games the PSN charts will be helpful. Seeing Demon's Souls still there is telling, despite it not being on the other overall charts.

 

[mejin]

Interesting that a franchise mostly alligned with Xbox has 68% of sales on PS4. That means that most of its fanbase moved to PS during the PS4 era.

Yep. ME 1 and 2 were huge on Xbox.

But nowadays any game that launches on both Playstation and Xbox will sell better on Playstation.

 

[SlimySnake]

I hope this convinces Sony and others to leave last gen behind. Games will have legs. Miles could've been a next gen showpiece like ratchet.

 

[Dabaus]

Mass effect 70 percent split on playstation is interesting. This isnt some Japanese RPG Franchise that has long ties to the PS1-PS2 days, this is a western RPG heavily associated with he glory days of xbox. It took like 4 years after the ME1 released on 360 to even make it to ps3 back in the day.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I guess Returnal is looking like a sales bomb. That sucks.

 

[jroc74]

ME being more on PlayStation is interesting....

I hope this convinces Sony and others to leave last gen behind. Games will have legs. Miles could've been a next gen showpiece like ratchet.

If anything it could mean the cross gen period will be a normal one.

If ppl are buying the next gen versions when given a choice despite the stock issues....

For Sony at least. As time goes on the goals of Sony and MS are starting to make more sense.

PS5 versions are selling a lot.
MS still embraces last gen alot, have Smart Delivery.

 

[Markio128]

I guess Returnal is looking like a sales bomb. That sucks.

I would class it as a sales bomb if it was also playable on PS4 for sure, but on PS5 I expect the sales to pick up as console sales grow. It was never going to compete with established franchises.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Playstation store also has no real numbers sadly. The only real numbers we can infer are from physical sales in Japan. Returnal was #1 in the PS Store Japan charts in April, but it only took something like 2000 sold digital copies to achieve that #1 placement. Imagine selling 2000 copies and being #1 for the entire month. Just further confirms that software sales are very weak (at least in Japan).

Yeah, but just at retail in UK Returnal sold almost 5x more than digital in Japan. And also around 6.5k at retail in Japan in a launch week. And also a still limited PS5 install base.

 

[Bryank75]

How many legs does a spider have?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

more like vindication if I had to put a word to it. Always said a $70 roguelike was not going to be a mainstream game.

Who said it'll be a mainstream game though? It's mainly a niche game for hardcore players. You can see some noobs tried it out and crushed by reality:





It wasn't very hard to me, more like moderate and decently challenging. If this game sells around 1-2M that'll be a massive success. We are grateful that Sony is supporting all genres and risky projects:

CEO of HOUSEMARQUE: we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky.

Thanks to @DonJorginho for pointing this out: In the age when game publishers are taking less and less creative risks, we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky and has given fantastic support during the whole...

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[Derift]

Didnt know we had so many Sony shareholders in this forum

 

[SLB1904]

Who said it'll be a mainstream game though? It's mainly a niche game for hardcore players. You can see some noobs tried it out and crushed by reality:





It wasn't very hard to me, more like moderate and decent challenging. If this game sells around 1-2M that'll be a massive success. We are grateful that Sony is supporting all genres and risky projects:

CEO of HOUSEMARQUE: we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky.

Thanks to @DonJorginho for pointing this out: In the age when game publishers are taking less and less creative risks, we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky and has given fantastic support during the whole...

www.neogaf.com

This sales are brilliant and all but I'm just glad the game exists just like bloodborne
The last guardian and whatever niche sony will do next

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Didnt know we had so many Sony shareholders in this forum

Congratulations to my fellow shareholders!

 

[SilentUser]

That's a very impressive rise for Spider-Man: Miles Morales, nice to see. Seems to be the first big PS5 hit despite being available on PS4. I guess people want to try it on the new platform with all the upgrades.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I would class it as a sales bomb if it was also playable on PS4 for sure, but on PS5 I expect the sales to pick up as console sales grow. It was never going to compete with established franchises.

But wouldn't sales have grown like Miles did because of available PS5s if that were the case?

 

[Warnen]

so concerned for games on a console you have no interest in.

no concern at all, seems many don’t care so why would I? I have a lot of interest in the PS5 however eagerly awaiting the big games late this year and into next few like god of war and spider man 2

 

[yazenov]

Playstation userbase paying for games and carrying the whole gaming industry, while MS ruins the industry with a rental service.

Seriously though, 32% ratio of sales for a game associated with the Xbox is abysmal . Game Pass doing its work.

BTW if I'm not mistaken, ME did about 25K boxed sales if half of RE8 first week sales.

 

[Markio128]

But wouldn't sales have grown like Miles did because of available PS5s if that were the case?

Sales may have grown, but not to the same extent as Miles. It’s like with any console. If you bought a Switch for the 1st time, you’d buy Mario, Zelda or Pokemon for instance and not an unknown new IP With your new console.

 

[Markio128]

no concern at all, seems many don’t care so why would I? I have a lot of interest in the PS5 however eagerly awaiting the big games late this year and into next few like god of war and spider man 2

When I mentioned pissing in the wind earlier, that also describes my current struggles in purchasing a Series X haha - looks like I’ll be waiting a while at this point. Nothing wrong in wanting best of both worlds.

 

[Klart]

Seems that way. I truly don’t think the majority of XBOX gamers actually buy games. Most recent example was RE8 and now the game that originated on the XBOX most likely sells considerably better on the PS4? I know Gamepass has been in existence for awhile, but I’m really wondering what’s going on.

Not only did PS4 outsell Xbox, PS5 even outsold PS4. Xbox came after both.

 

[funkygunther]

Who said it'll be a mainstream game though? It's mainly a niche game for hardcore players. You can see some noobs tried it out and crushed by reality:





It wasn't very hard to me, more like moderate and decently challenging. If this game sells around 1-2M that'll be a massive success. We are grateful that Sony is supporting all genres and risky projects:

CEO of HOUSEMARQUE: we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky.

Thanks to @DonJorginho for pointing this out: In the age when game publishers are taking less and less creative risks, we are truly thankful to our publishing partner Sony, who has given us an opportunity to work on something very risky and has given fantastic support during the whole...

www.neogaf.com

"noobs"

the dude is blind

 

[Arun1910]

Miles Morales getting the love it deserves.

 

[Cyber_hunter026]

 

[Entroyp]

The UK sure loves Spider-Man.

 

[Mr Moose]

It seems ShopTo is getting some PS5 stock, I am trying to visit their website for games but I get put in a queue.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It seems ShopTo is getting some PS5 stock, I am trying to visit their website for games but I get put in a queue.

Just tried

I'm 27036

 

[SLB1904]

Playstation store also has no real numbers sadly. The only real numbers we can infer are from physical sales in Japan. Returnal was #1 in the PS Store Japan charts in April, but it only took something like 2000 sold digital copies to achieve that #1 placement. Imagine selling 2000 copies and being #1 for the entire month. Just further confirms that software sales are very weak (at least in Japan).

You would have a point if psn wasnt the biggest gaming online store. And games charting in it are full flat 70. Beating fifa etc in a full flat month on a console with at best 7million active users.

 

[prinz_valium]

So much for 90% of xbox users being digital.

Yeah it's more like 95%

 

[Bernd Lauert]

edit.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

You would have a point if psn wasnt the biggest gaming online store. And games charting in it are full flat 70. Beating fifa etc in a full flat month on a console with at best 7million active users.

2000 sales to be #1 in a monthly chart isn't good, no matter how you spin it. I assume the worldwide numbers are much better though.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Didnt know we had so many Sony shareholders in this forum

I am.

 

[Hobbygaming]

I just want to know, finally, total number sold (physical + digital) of Demon’s Souls and (maybe too early) Returnal. Are they really bust, the way it looks like from the outside or not. Morales seems like game of choice for new PS5 owners and that’s least surprising thing here.

And Warnen , that’s quite possibly best GIF I’ve ever seen.

Difficult games combined with a low install base. They'll get more sales as PS5 stock increases more

 

[Sander Cohen]

Difficult games combined with a low install base. They'll get more sales as PS5 stock increases more

Yes, at least one copy more since I’m waiting for my PS5 DS bundle to arrive.

 

[SLB1904]

2000 sales to be #1 in a monthly chart isn't good, no matter how you spin it. I assume the worldwide numbers are much better though.

nah im pretty sure ps5 is doing much worse worldwide than in japan

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

more like vindication if I had to put a word to it. Always said a $70 roguelike was not going to be a mainstream game.

did anyone expect it to be anything more...?

housemarque is a small studio. I don’t think anyone was expecting this game to sell like a big budget title.

it can still find success, and arguably will probably have more revenue thanks to the $70 price tag, which is well worth it if you are into these kinds of games

 

[LMJ]

Returnal had a short shelf life huh?

Didnt know we had so many Sony shareholders in this forum

You diehard fans make me laugh lol

Why is it that positive economic news regarding a company (in this case Sony and Playstation) brings out the ire?

You see the same with Sony, Nintendo and MS diehards in a positive Nintendo or MS thread, here's a clue folks, better game sales helps everyone. As long as your System isn't twisting in the wind (ala WiiU or Vita) then EVERYONE benefits

Repeat with me, good game sales helps...

 

[Warnen]

You diehard fans make me laugh lol

Why is it that positive economic news regarding a company (in this case Sony and Playstation) brings out the ire?

You see the same with Sony, Nintendo and MS diehards in a positive Nintendo or MS thread, here's a clue folks, better game sales helps everyone. As long as your System isn't twisting in the wind (ala WiiU or Vita) then EVERYONE benefits

Repeat with me, good game sales helps...

think you misquoted or something, don't see how my post fits with your response. Wouldn't say its positive news when a new game falls off the charts in 2 weeks time.

 

[DForce]

think you misquoted or something, don't see how my post fits with your response. Wouldn't say its positive news when a new game falls off the charts in 2 weeks time.

Some guys are ready to call a game a bomb after looking at a chart for merely 2 weeks.

MLB The Show is a success even though it only sales good in one region alone. Have to look at the overall performance and try not to compare it with other triple A titles since Returnal's budget and sales target is much lower.

 

[El Pistolero]

more like vindication if I had to put a word to it. Always said a $70 roguelike was not going to be a mainstream game.

We all thought that it would sell in the millions! Long live our resident Nostradamus!

 

[Warnen]

We all thought that it would sell in the millions! Long live our resident Nostradamus!

I know a rouge-like having a small audience is like saying water is wet, it’s a given.

 

[The Wheel of Fortune]

Re: MM vs Returnal/DeS, price is also an important point to have in mind. The PS5 console itself is already a pretty expensive investment for the average consumer, so when they're thinking: "what game should I get?" and see a £45 Spiderman game VS a £70 Souls game (also well known for being "hard") or Returnal... well, I don't blame them for going with MM.

 

[yurinka]

Returnal had a short shelf life huh?

We have no idea but probably yes because it's a niche game and there are only a few million PS5 sold worldwide, so it wouldn't make sense to expect it to sell a lot of units. We don't have sales numbers and retail UK sales are only a tiny part of worldwide sales, so who knows. But they should be relatively low compared to a big Sony AAA game, while very likely higher than the average Housemarque game sales.

32% for a franchise that originated on Xbox seems weak.

Well, 32% sounds similar to the XBO vs PS4 console -at least worldwide- market share, so it's ok I think considering that on Xbox there is Gamepass and on PS there are more recent big exclusives.

 

[Flutta]

Mass effect 70 percent split on playstation is interesting. This isnt some Japanese RPG Franchise that has long ties to the PS1-PS2 days, this is a western RPG heavily associated with he glory days of xbox. It took like 4 years after the ME1 released on 360 to even make it to ps3 back in the day.

Xbox gamers are waiting for it to release on gamepass. It's the new trend I'm seeing for the latest multiplat game releases. The split between PS4/Xo was never this big last-gen for western games.

 

[reinking]

Returnal had a short shelf life huh?

Why I am waiting for a deep discount or PS Plus.


Not that you really care about Returnal. You just like to shit on Sony at every chance you get.

 

[Warnen]

Why I am waiting for a deep discount or PS Plus.


Not that you really care about Returnal. You just like to shit on Sony at every chance you get.

everything but god of war, ghost of Tsushima, spider man, Horzion, uncharted, and about 80% of there output but yeah I get ya. Either all in or against, no grey area for the S-squad.

 

[reinking]

everything but god of war, ghost of Tsushima, spider man, Horzion, uncharted, and about 80% of there output but yeah I get ya. Either all in or against, no grey area for the S-squad.

You should open up your post history and let it speak for itself.