SCB3
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There's a huge difference between big neon lights and purposely putting on a VR headset and it flashing fast lights directly at you
PSA: Cyberpunk 2077 has sections that can cause Epileptic Seizures
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There's a huge difference between big neon lights and purposely putting on a VR headset and it flashing fast lights directly at you
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The boilerplate warning that's on most games these days is pretty useless when the vast majority are probably fine for even people with photosensitive epilepsy. Inevitably they'll all be ignored, which means specifically having a PSA for a game like this which might have some/many especially intense sequences seems warranted.
That said, inject it straight into my eyes I love this shit
That said, inject it straight into my eyes I love this shit
buizel
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Fuckin awesome.
You plebs all grew up too late to watch the HARD SH1T LIKE DIRTY SANCHEZ where ya just iron your dick because it's MMEETTTAALLL \nn/
Y'all pussies now look to celebrities to guide your morals and how everyone has to just be nice
THiS iS WWF ATTITUDE era epicness. Y'all can get a fuckin seizure and die #YOLO
You plebs all grew up too late to watch the HARD SH1T LIKE DIRTY SANCHEZ where ya just iron your dick because it's MMEETTTAALLL \nn/
Y'all pussies now look to celebrities to guide your morals and how everyone has to just be nice
THiS iS WWF ATTITUDE era epicness. Y'all can get a fuckin seizure and die #YOLO
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ForestVSea
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The warning (before pretty much every game):
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GnomeChimpsky
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Polygon just updated their review with 5 new paragraphs.
ChuckeRearmed
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It would be cool if Cyberpunk supported VR
I believe it is another conflict like the one with difficulty in From Software game - game is popular, people want to play but it is not for them but they still want to be included. I am more curious why we can't heal epilepsy yet.The warning (before pretty much every game):
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Lupingosei
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Cyberpunk 2077 costumers ca. 2020 (colorized)
Noboru Wataya
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A video? So that people can spread it around twitter/reddit/forums to unsuspecting gamerz? PEOPLE ARE DYING!
The warning (before pretty much every game):
Sure but I play 30ish videogames a year at least. I have only gotten seizures from one. AOE3 of all games. It happened twice with that one. So nice with a guide.
Impotaku
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Cyberpunk 2077 costumers ca. 2020 (colorized)
Is this what the zoomers call a twitch stream?
Hudo
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Yep, this. Don't know why this deserves an article. Maybe it's a slow day for GameInformer?The warning (before pretty much every game):
Dries
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Question for those who already have the game: does the warning screen (posted by
ForestVSea
) appear in the intro videos when you boot the game?
ForestVSea
) appear in the intro videos when you boot the game?
SirKicksalot
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An ArsTechnica editor confirms the game doesn't have an epilepsy warning title card.
This shit is no joke. My apartment mate with no history of epilepsy had a crisis triggered by a neighbour testing a light switch in his apartament with the door open
Fell so hard she got a brain injury. Took her to the hospital for surgery. Doctor said everyone is allowed a free crisis out of nowhere like this, but if you're on your second crisis for bullshit reasons or no visible cause you're classified as epileptic.
This shit is no joke. My apartment mate with no history of epilepsy had a crisis triggered by a neighbour testing a light switch in his apartament with the door open
Fell so hard she got a brain injury. Took her to the hospital for surgery. Doctor said everyone is allowed a free crisis out of nowhere like this, but if you're on your second crisis for bullshit reasons or no visible cause you're classified as epileptic.
STARSBarry
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Oh no I have photosensitive epilepsy...
let me just put this eyepatch on which most sane people with a life threatening condition that can be triggered by playing videogames will know about as they try to play a video game.
OH LOOK PROBLEM SOLVED
let me just put this eyepatch on which most sane people with a life threatening condition that can be triggered by playing videogames will know about as they try to play a video game.
OH LOOK PROBLEM SOLVED
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Dries
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Honestly pretty weird. Does every game put this in for lawsuit purpoes?
Yoboman
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I am epileptic but not photo sensitive. But strobing lights certainly make me feel uncomfortable as hell like I'm playing with fire
Actually seizuring because of a game is nightmare fuel. Its a goddamn ordeal when you go through one. You are wiped out for days and your brain is fried.
Anybody dismissing this is just ignorant and CDPR need to be working on a patch right now
Actually seizuring because of a game is nightmare fuel. Its a goddamn ordeal when you go through one. You are wiped out for days and your brain is fried.
Anybody dismissing this is just ignorant and CDPR need to be working on a patch right now
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STARSBarry
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Serioues question, do you wear an eyepatch while you game? Not because its a pirate adventure day but because this way you are using far less of your cortex and this massively reduces the chance of seizure outside of... well not playing the content.
its why you can go to any advise on epilepsy and they will always state;
If suddenly exposed to a trigger
- Covering one eye completely with your hand will greatly reduce the photosensitive effect.
Same deal, just with an eyepatch its constant. Please note this is not a "cure" but if your gaming anyway and not like doing this, you will find this dramatically lowers the risk.
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Yoboman
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I've never been photosensitive so there would be no point
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Not as ignorant as the eurogamer dude trying to make this a big deal/a thing for self promotion to brag he's an ex vet or whatever that got injured and now is epileptic while passing wrong advice like "close your eyes" in those segments which doesn't actually necessarily work as light penetrates the eyelids (duh).
Another guy here got triggered by Age of Empires, do you want a patch for that too now that you know? This is all pure conjecture just because he got a seizure while playing saying it's deliberate out of the blue without even confirming first if the light show in the game is really what he likens it to and you eat it up.
And yeah if they don't actually have the warning screen they should put it in there but only to avoid legal trouble, not like anyone is oblivious to the danger of video games for epileptics by now, the doctor will have informed them already most likely, just as given them advice about movies and tv and such stuff too.
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CAB_Life
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It's 2020. Nothing is one's fault ever. Choose your oppression.
I hope they can patch in more accessibility features if this is true.
People have the right to play the game as safely as possible and not to fear they're going to have seizures.
Personally I've never suffered of seizures but sometimes I have camera induced motion sickness in certain games (TLOU2 is the most recent offender and even with all its accessibility features I couldn't fully get rid of the issue) so I can relate to people not feeling well while playing (although obviously seizures are a much more serious issue).
People have the right to play the game as safely as possible and not to fear they're going to have seizures.
Personally I've never suffered of seizures but sometimes I have camera induced motion sickness in certain games (TLOU2 is the most recent offender and even with all its accessibility features I couldn't fully get rid of the issue) so I can relate to people not feeling well while playing (although obviously seizures are a much more serious issue).
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WakeTheWolf
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Why use the same sequence that induces epilepsy? That's retarded as fuck
killatopak
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Let's not dismiss this off handedly simply because the other site is making a big deal out of it.
The best we can ask for is an optional way to display those same epilepsy triggering sequence.
If it's a problem then we're able to fix it. If it's not a problem and is just something that's blowing up for no reason then great you still helped some people sensitive to it feel a bit better.
Of course priority will be given depending on how severe this issue is. If it isn't as big a deal then maybe add this up after the bug fix patches down the line or even along with the next gen patches.
The best we can ask for is an optional way to display those same epilepsy triggering sequence.
If it's a problem then we're able to fix it. If it's not a problem and is just something that's blowing up for no reason then great you still helped some people sensitive to it feel a bit better.
Of course priority will be given depending on how severe this issue is. If it isn't as big a deal then maybe add this up after the bug fix patches down the line or even along with the next gen patches.
ChuckeRearmed
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I believe it is just a coincidence. Have you ever seen a sequence used to trigger epilepsy?
FunkMiller
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Quite. This is a dumb fucking thing to have in your game, and they need to patch it extremely quickly.
WakeTheWolf
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If this turns out to be true it's pretty retarded. It's just an unnecessary thing to do in a game that could potentially trigger seizures even in people who have never experienced them before. And I see it's already started in this thread being called an SJW for criticising the devs for it. I'm not liking that being anti-woke (which i am) now means we have to shill for companies.
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hemo memo
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If you are going to down this rabbit hole then platform holders are the more responsible in approving this game to be sold on their platform. If it is this serious, Sony and Microsoft would have denied it and the rating board wouldn't rate it and it'll be illegal to be sold. I'm not making light of the situation but we should stop treating this as the dev trying to get us crap just because Era is pushing anything against this game to make it seem bigger than it actually is.
michaelius
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Sounds like an accidential oversight in a game this complicated. They should be able to patch less dangerous sequence of lights later
FunkMiller
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M1chl
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But that was a message on PS2/PS3 back then, you know. It was never on system level on Xbox tho
ForestVSea
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Don't the console's themselves even have the warning?
Edit: yup, om Playstation:
Edit: yup, om Playstation:
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ChuckeRearmed
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No, I mean have you ever seen pattern used to trigger an epileptic episode in real life? Like, I image if your put on a VR headset and see EA logo it might also trigger an episode
If this turns out to be true it's pretty retarded. It's just an unnecessary thing to do in a game that could potentially trigger seizures even in people who have never experienced them before. And I see it's already started in this thread being called an SJW for criticising the devs for it. I'm not liking that being anti-woke (which i am) now means we have to shill for companies.
#Phonepunk#
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A bullshit nontroversy by a jealous SJW press
Every game has shit like this from Mario to Zelda to Pokemon
give me a fucking break
if you are sensitive to seizures then you need to take responsibility for your own safety.
Every game has shit like this from Mario to Zelda to Pokemon
give me a fucking break
if you are sensitive to seizures then you need to take responsibility for your own safety.
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IntentionalPun
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Most games and lots of devices have seizure warnings.
That doesn't mean that every or anywhere near most games cause them consistently.
It sounds like this is a section that does, and even seems to be mimicking medical equipment that is DESIGNED to cause a seizure (they induce seizures to do diagnostics on people.)
It's a good warning for those that have epilepsy; and maybe the devs have a way of altering it that still fits their artistic vision but won't cause seizures.
It's all reasonable to report on, your vidya games are not in danger from a woke epilepsy mob.
That doesn't mean that every or anywhere near most games cause them consistently.
It sounds like this is a section that does, and even seems to be mimicking medical equipment that is DESIGNED to cause a seizure (they induce seizures to do diagnostics on people.)
It's a good warning for those that have epilepsy; and maybe the devs have a way of altering it that still fits their artistic vision but won't cause seizures.
It's all reasonable to report on, your vidya games are not in danger from a woke epilepsy mob.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
No it's not reasonable to keep saying it's mimicking medical equipment that is designed to cause a seizure just because a random online claims it's somehow too similar, a random passing around dangerous not medically approved advice like just "close your eyes" at that. Confirm it first, then state that. Until then it's 100% fud.
You seriously think this not only isn't just some "let's put a cool cyberpunky jacking in sequence with flashing lights and shit here" moment, and not only that they actually did research into epilepsy, but that they did that research to deliberately put triggers in the game rather than to mitigate? Are you that retarded? It's rhetorical.
So many non epileptics get offended (and even worse worried they will somehow become epileptics by that sequence, what the fuck!) and accuse CDP of such spectacular pulled out of their dumbass bullshit in their stead, lmfao, fucking bozos. The original report passing fud advice like "close your eyes" as "PSA" is far worse!
You seriously think this not only isn't just some "let's put a cool cyberpunky jacking in sequence with flashing lights and shit here" moment, and not only that they actually did research into epilepsy, but that they did that research to deliberately put triggers in the game rather than to mitigate? Are you that retarded? It's rhetorical.
So many non epileptics get offended (and even worse worried they will somehow become epileptics by that sequence, what the fuck!) and accuse CDP of such spectacular pulled out of their dumbass bullshit in their stead, lmfao, fucking bozos. The original report passing fud advice like "close your eyes" as "PSA" is far worse!
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So why are you upset that there's a PSA about it so people can...take responsibility for their safety by avoiding something potentially dangerous? Jesus dude take a Xanax
Tahj
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As someone w/ epilepsy for ages, & a gamer for longer, I appreciate the warning/article. Would really suck to be neck deep into this game & experience the terror (for me) that a grand mal seizure can bring.
Mine isn't /specifically/ photosensitive, but I avoid concerts, & turn my head from strobes when in media or seen on emergency vehicles. There's only two games (out of thousands) I've stopped playing bc I felt the trigger point was closing in. I'd always planned to be careful when playing Cyberpunk; now I'm more informed, so even better.
Mine isn't /specifically/ photosensitive, but I avoid concerts, & turn my head from strobes when in media or seen on emergency vehicles. There's only two games (out of thousands) I've stopped playing bc I felt the trigger point was closing in. I'd always planned to be careful when playing Cyberpunk; now I'm more informed, so even better.
How can you reasonably take responsibility when the game doesn't warn you? Unless you don't play any games at all.
If this turns out to be true it's pretty retarded. It's just an unnecessary thing to do in a game that could potentially trigger seizures even in people who have never experienced them before. And I see it's already started in this thread being called an SJW for criticising the devs for it. I'm not liking that being anti-woke (which i am) now means we have to shill for companies.
It is suggested to close your eyes....but in this case how long are these sections?
Is this just the beginning of the animation when the headset is virtually put on your head?