For those excited about Cyberpunk 2077 but are vulnerable to epileptic episodes, here are a few things you need to know.
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How this is acceptable (and even looks intentional) in 2020 is ridiculous and NEEDS to be an optional thing. I don't personally suffer from it but I know alot of people do
For what it's worth, this isnt an attack on the game or CDPR, I'm looking forward to it
As someone with epilepsy
I can justly say
Yeah, no fucking shit sherlock; you're starting at a screen flashing 30+ pictures in your eyes a second. DUH
This is totally fine and par for the course of living in a technology age with epilepsy lol, and is totally acceptable
What percentage of the population suffers from seizures caused by flashing lights?
Approximately 0.03% of the world population suffers from this type of epilepsy.
That's 2,340,000 people out of the 7.8 billion people in the world.
I don't mean to sound insensitive but I'm glad they don't always craft games with these people in mind. It should be up to those people to avoid those things and not ignore warnings that are presented to them at the beginning of a game.
At times I've been like "NEHHH! THAT WAS WAY TOO MUCH, FUCK YOU GUYS GIVE ME A TOGGLE FOR THAT!"
For single player games, yeah that would be fine
Multiplayer, some of the flashy visuals are apart of the experience (Player becoming distorted, etc)
I just take a break instead of flopping
Who said that? Where is the medical source stating that that particular flashing is used by physicians? You really think a developer would induce you a seizure just for fun? Let's please stick to actual infos and not brainless gossip. As already stated, almost every game could induce seizures in subjects who have a predisposition for it, i.e. a medical condition like epilepsy.
What I find most annoying is that now this news is spreading like a cancer all over the internet.
The author said it was "Like one of them," and not one specifically
Essentially they'll stick a screen in your face and flash between RGB real hardcore and get your brain to "Desync," per say, then that gets you to flop
I get you bro but really, my response stands. If you are ill, consult with your doctor. Practically all games change light and dark quickly which can trigger epilepsy very easily for most people who suffer from it (the photosensitive one). Even watching TV is hazardous for these people without medication. Cyberpunk having insane flashing lights is something people have to expect.
Yeah, it depends on what type of seizure disorder, your meds, other body stuff, etc
People who don't have a seizure disorder typically just get a bad head ache from it
It would be an issue for me because I suffer from photo sensitive epilepsy. I haven't had a grand or petit mal in 20 years though and would like to keep it that way. So I will avoid the game until they provide an option to turn these sequences off. However, I'm not demanding anything from the devs.
By the way, the standard epilepsy disclaimer usually has nothing to do with sequences that trigger episodes or seizures. It simply is a disclaimer, nothing else. I can handle muzzle flashes just fine.
Fuck yeah dude, congrats!
The new meds I'm on got my grands completely away (More normal for me) but even got my petites gone as well. I rarely deal with ataxia now ^_^
Shit, I still go to clubs and stuff with flashing lights; youknow how it is, feeling static-y don't walk yourself to a strobe
or play too long lol
not epileptic but fuck this shit if it really is that bad. if your game makes me nauseous or gives me a headache it can GTF. of course it's even worse if it will put you into a seizure.
there will be warnings yes but doesn't mean it's OK to do it because you basically say "it's your fault. we're not liable". by all means make things flashy/bright etc but don't do it to the point where you risk peoples health. there could even be a setting to tone it down. loads of games have accessibility/health settings. there's stuff for blind/colour blind/deaf/hard of hearing people so why not try help epileptic people too.
We're fine; just don't be the ass hole who sticks a strobe in our face and you won't need to worry about us
We've been fairing just fine playing games for a long while now. Don't really hear us complain too much, unless it's Pokemon Porygon episode of egregious
I am epileptic but not photo sensitive. But strobing lights certainly make me feel uncomfortable as hell like I'm playing with fire
Actually seizuring because of a game is nightmare fuel. Its a goddamn ordeal when you go through one. You are wiped out for days and your brain is fried.
Anybody dismissing this is just ignorant and CDPR need to be working on a patch right now
Tell me about it; my grand mals can last for minutes
But I disagree; unless it's stupidly egregious, it'll be fine for most of us floppers out there
Serioues question, do you wear an eyepatch while you game? Not because its a pirate adventure day but because this way you are using far less of your cortex and this massively reduces the chance of seizure outside of... well not playing the content.
its why you can go to any advise on epilepsy and they will always state;
If suddenly exposed to a trigger
- Covering one eye completely with your hand will greatly reduce the photosensitive effect.
Same deal, just with an eyepatch its constant. Please note this is not a "cure" but if your gaming anyway and not like doing this, you will find this dramatically lowers the risk.
I'm not a medical professional, but I don't see what covering 1 eye would do to stabilize your brain waves while still looking at the thing causing the destabilization. If that were the case, my epileptologist would've told me to get one, though treatment is PURELY dependent on what type of epilepsy you have (Plus, like, if that's all it took, why make meds?)
For instance, my type has one of my big triggers being sleep; if I'm sleep deprived, I'm going to be jerking and having tons of petite seizures through out the day. Screens are typically fine for me, but I have my bad days where staring at screens makes my head throb and I start to get my aura (Signs of an impending grand mal)
As someone w/ epilepsy for ages, & a gamer for longer, I appreciate the warning/article. Would really suck to be neck deep into this game & experience the terror (for me) that a grand mal seizure can bring.
Mine isn't /specifically/ photosensitive, but I avoid concerts, & turn my head from strobes when in media or seen on emergency vehicles. There's only two games (out of thousands) I've stopped playing bc I felt the trigger point was closing in. I'd always planned to be careful when playing Cyberpunk; now I'm more informed, so even better.
To me, it's just kind of expected that games and life in general is going to have seizure inducing moments
You don't sign a disclaimer every time you go to a concert about "Hey, we have flashy lights!" or that they have it posted everywhere that they're going to have flashy lights