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[MThanded]

Zoe, show your face!!!!!!!!

 

[daffy]

So they're just now letting people know their credit card info could have been taken?

They don't think it could've been, but as a precaution there were advised to tell us to be safer.

 

[obonicus]

And? That link was the top security breaches of all time, some of them with tens of millions of CC accounts compromised. PSN has 75 million accounts, easily tens of millions of CC numbers stored. That's the same exact thing as the article you posted...It might not be the absolute biggest, but it could easily be right up there.

It does establish that the fine for these breaches really isn't that expensive, haha, unless they dropped a few 0s.

 

[Animator]

you came in this thread to post this? really?

Surprised he didnt post a "ps3 has no games" to go along with it.

 

[GeoramA]

Really hope nobody's data was stolen and used...I bet Sony does too.

Just pisses me off how people who do the right thing and pay for their shit might be facing the consequences here.

 

[spindashing]

I have my credit card information tied to my PSN account, although there has been no activity at all other than what I've done with it.

What should I do? Is it too late to remove it as of right now? If I can remove it, how do I do so?

 

[xbhaskarx]

just when the ps3 was gaining momentum

The whole Playstation "ecosystem" was "gaining momentum"...

 

[bluehat9]

Guys, credit card information hasn´t been confirmed by SONY, they are now on going investigation on it, but they haven´t to this moment found a sign of CC theft, this i can assured.

Just like their investigation to the extent of the hack and where psn was going be down "a day or two," amirite? If they got every other piece of personal information, I don't really know what would make people think they don't have cc info too?

Then again, last week people were saying that if sony thought info was compromised they would have said it day one and anyone who thought otherwise was overreacting, so whatever.

 

[Knux-Future]

I'm pissed at Sony and everything but c'mon duders, Perhaps they just found out everything recently and haven't actually waited a week to tell us. Imagine if they had said...there might have been a breach and your shit could be fucked up BEFORE finding out if it really was the case?

Imagine the chaos.

Shit gets broken in as well so the Hacker(s) still takes the main blame.

Sony isn't off scott free though. This shit is fucked.

PSN needs to be put back up sooner than later. 2 weeks would be fucking stupid.

 

[Rebel Leader]

I have my credit card information tied to my PSN account, although there has been no activity at all other than what I've done with it.

What should I do? Is it too late to remove it as of right now? If I can remove it, how do I do so?

There is no way to remove it at this moment

 

[MThanded]

Where the hell is chad warden.

 

[CharminUltra]

Penny Arcade is going to have a field day with this.

 

[Kusagari]

They don't think it could've been, but as a precaution there were advised to tell us to be safer.

And with how 'amazing' Sony's been with giving info in this whole debacle there is no reason to believe them.

 

[offshore]

Then again, last week people were saying that if sony thought info was compromised they would have said it day one and anyone who thought otherwise was overreacting, so whatever.

Yeah, this is quite true.

 

[Big Chungus]

Where the hell is chad warden.

2006.

 

[SolidusDave]

So what are the options for Sony now regarding PSN accounts?
Maybe locking PSN accounts to their current email addresses, then reset the password and send the new password to the emailaddress? No access via security questions etc.


Still amazed that you can pull every data of over 70 million accounts w/o being detected/blocked immediately.

 

[Four_Chamber]

You link that, as if that was supposed to prove him wrong, but PSN has more accounts than any of the incidents you linked to. Provided the worst case scenario (all accounts stolen, plus credit information), this is indeed the largest data theft of all time involving usernames, passwords, and credit.

So, no, not hyperbole much.

Well, one positive of him posting that link is we get an appreciation of the magnitude of this information leak (even though he clearly didn't read it. Even the big credit card breaches were in the hundreds of thousands. This is massive

 

[Chris R]

Time to change my passwords and hope my other stuff is safe. Checked my credit card and didn't see any charges there, but this other info sucks.

No way to know what password it was either... great

 

[DECK'ARD]

Did Sony exercise a reasonable duty of care that was owed to the customers? Apparently they use the same CC security methods as everyone else. The information is ultimately their responsibility to safeguard, but Sony isn't guilty of any negligence in this scenario it's proven that they in some way breached said standard of care in safeguarding the information.

Sony is at fault in some ways, but I wouldn't say that this is 50/50.

The most likely theory explained by BlimmBlimm on here when the network went down is that PSN security was client-side heavy, mainly relying on security through invisibility. When PS3 security imploded, that invisibility was lost and meant brute-force techniques could be used to reveal exploits.

When PS3 was compromised they tired to lock them out of the network, rather than rebuilding the network to stop any such exploits now the security of PSN was vulnerable. That rebuilding is what they are doing now.

 

[darkwing]

to be fair, they probably had to be sure what had happened hence why it took them a week

we will know more once the class action lawsuits start appearing

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Of course you are not concerned if you don't have CC info on your PSN. And how the hell did you change your PW if you can't login into PSN even.

change other passwords I mean, that use the same.

 

[Elios83]

I hope that:

1)No one will actually suffer fraud/financial damage because of this
2)All the services are back online soon
3)The hackers can be traced and punished like the criminals they are.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Where the hell is chad warden.

He buys everything in cash. What does he care?

 

[Peacemillian]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandal to cover it up.

 

[Sblargh]

Jesus, did you even read the article? PSN breach is actually bigger than most of the incidents listed in that article.

Doesn't seem like it.

 

[Oneself]

My credit cards stopped working on PSN a while ago, let's see if these hackers will make it work again.

 

[Professor Beef]

Where the hell is chad warden.

The PS3 may have turned his hair jet black, but this news has turned it white.

 

[notworksafe]

Still amazed that you can pull every data of over 70 million accounts w/o being detected/blocked immediately.

Um, you can't. Hence the shut down....

 

[daffy]

Sony knew must of known their server side security was fucked. I'm guessing one of the reasons they went all gung-ho against the custom firmware. They should of ignored the consoles and focused on their actually infrastructure.

They probably knew they didn't know how to handle CFW possibly, whether they were improving security for it before this is unknown, but they definitely should've been.

 

[spindashing]

There is no way to remove it at this moment

Holy shit. =(

 

[Oni Jazar]

Look at the numbers in those leaks compared to the 70 million accounts that were compromised here. It wasn't a hyperbole. The only one that came close was the VA leak.

No way in hell did Sony have 70million banking account information. PSN accounts are free and I'm sure almost every PS3/PSP owner here had multiple accounts for different territories.

 

[Neuromancer]

Penny Arcade is going to have a field day with this.

Yeah I imagine Weekend Confirmed, Giant Bombcast and the CAGCast are too.

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandal to cover it up.

Classy.

 

[derFeef]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandel to cover it up.

wow....

 

[MThanded]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandel to cover it up.

wow. thanks for your input. Also there is a pretty high chance that the CC info was stolen.

 

[Trevelyon]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandal to cover it up.

Oy vey

 

[bakeray]

Told y'all it was much bigger than just the Rebug issue. And there are STILL people here apologizing for Sony's incompetence.

what a trainwreck.

 

[bucsfan0210]

So what precautions should I take due to the intrusion. It might have been said earlier, but yeah i don't know.

 

[Discotheque]

Fucking Sony, what a joke. I hope nobody tries to defend this blunder.

So going by that statement even if we cleared our CC info long ago from PSN there's still a chance the number got stolen?

 

[angelfly]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandel to cover it up.

So you work for Sony?

 

[Conceited]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandal to cover it up.

wut

 

[marathonfool]

So, did Sony encrypt my password and CC info? I understand if my address, security answers, and email address may be compromised, but my passwords and CC should be encrypted right?

 

[dream]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandel to cover it up.

So what's your favorite PS3 game?

 

[Barrett2]

Anybody know how much a working CC number is on the open market? I would love to know how much all the PSN data is *worth* to whatever mafia organization buys it.

 

[Quasar]

hackers finally seriously maimed Sony the Sony name would be associated with hacking

how do you recover from that??

The same way other companies do I guess. Apologising a lot and making it very clear how much they have improved their security. And that's even if no cc numbers have been lost.

This would hardly be the first time something like this has happened.

 

[ArtG]

I'm pissed at Sony and everything but c'mon duders, Perhaps they just found out everything recently and haven't actually waited a week to tell us. Imagine if they had said...there might have been a breach and your shit could be fucked up BEFORE finding out if it really was the case?

Imagine the chaos.

Shit gets broken in as well so the Hacker(s) still takes the main blame.

Sony isn't off scott free though. This shit is fucked.

PSN needs to be put back up sooner than later. 2 weeks would be fucking stupid.

The problem is they said they've been hacked any waited a week to determine whether or not personal information has been stolen. A fucking week. They're a $30 billion dollar company, for Christ's sakes, not a bunch of amateurs.

 

[StuBurns]

There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time
There is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time

Stop crying you fucking babies, and to all the lowlifes blaming sony rather than the hackers, this could have happened to any major company, and if the 40 people the FBI are after arnt to blame, it will be some guys using the geohat scandal to cover it up.

I hate this post so much.

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

One thing I am certain of: This is NOT how Sony wanted to start the media push for its new tablets lol. If I were in whatever division handles tablets and I heard this was coming out on the same day as my reveal I would be FURIOUS. Sucks for those guys.

 

[pantyhelmet]

Where the hell is chad warden.

thats a perfect choice for an avatar pic, every time i see it, i know i'm going to roll my eyes at whatever you type next.

 

[jett]

PSN's username is our e-mail, how are we supposed to change that you stupid sony mongrels.

Anyway, I changed my PSN password only a few days before it went down, I might be in the clear. And I used virtual cards(until they stopped working, thanks Sony), so no issues there either.

 

[Jinfash]

Penny Arcade is going to have a field day with this.

The entire internet is going to have a field day with this.