Felix Lighter
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SolidSnakex said:
Considering the steps they took, they obviously knew it was a real possibility. There is no excuse.
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Considering the steps they took, they obviously knew it was a real possibility. There is no excuse.
narwhalSTAB
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Interesting. I'm glad I used a unique password for PSN that I don't use anywhere else.lol51 said:
DoctorButt
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this is libyas' fault
SappYoda
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EternalGamer
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SappYoda said:
As far as we know, Geohotz had absolutely nothing to do with the hacking at all. So it goes more like this:
1. Geohotz, a kid, is sued by Sony, a huge corporation, for creating a way for people to mod their own systems.
Sony is unnecessarily malicious.
2. Some unknown group of basement dwellers are able to destroy Sony, a multi-billion dollar company--'s online security protocols.
Sony is extremely incompetent.
3. Sony waits a week to tell us all that our information was compromised.
Sony is very stupid.
Nobody is defending the group responsible for hacking their servers here. Hell, I don't even care if someone wants to rail against Geohotz at this point. None of it changes the fact that this huge company has earned the label of incompetency and should no longer be trusted with our private information ever again.
It's been real for awhile actuallyzoukka said:
CadetMahoney
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surely "lost or stolen" lies won't hurt credit?Cth said:
wipes tear from eye.The Lamp said:
Mr. Enigma
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Thankfully, my PSN password is completely different from all my other passwords. My PSN password is the only one I didn't change after the Gawker incident.
I didn't get my PS3 until August 2010. I only got it to play the MLB The Show games. I've only bought two things ever on PSN and did that with a pre-paid $20 card.
Even though I'm safe, this is going to inspire me to never use my credit card for this shit again. Also, I will be taking this stance with Xbox Live as well. I'll be removing my credit card from that service (or at least attempt to; I've heard the horror stories) and going pre-paid from now on.
I didn't get my PS3 until August 2010. I only got it to play the MLB The Show games. I've only bought two things ever on PSN and did that with a pre-paid $20 card.
Even though I'm safe, this is going to inspire me to never use my credit card for this shit again. Also, I will be taking this stance with Xbox Live as well. I'll be removing my credit card from that service (or at least attempt to; I've heard the horror stories) and going pre-paid from now on.
TOAO_Cyrus
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Yoshichan said:
It doesn't matter, the breach already happened and is not ongoing. If it was taken then removing it from PSN won't do a thing.
RustyNails
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Can I make that burglar analogy now
Mr. Spinnington
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instead you go to your bank and re-kajigger all your other services that the card is tied to after canceling and setting up a new oneYoshichan said:
Wow, fuck this shit so much. Fuck the hackers, and fuck Sony for not having better security. We sure as hell better get some kind of compensation. None of my other passwords are the same as my PSN one, so I'm good on that front. I'll just be monitoring my debit card account like a hawk.
How a huge company like Sony lets this happen is just...and I still haven't gotten a goddamn email about it. I have friends who have PSN accounts who didn't know until I called them just now.
Also, I'm assuming Microsoft will be using this to troll Sony at E3 now. Nintendo might too, but that's less likely I think.
How a huge company like Sony lets this happen is just...and I still haven't gotten a goddamn email about it. I have friends who have PSN accounts who didn't know until I called them just now.
Also, I'm assuming Microsoft will be using this to troll Sony at E3 now. Nintendo might too, but that's less likely I think.
KingK said:
if MS and Nintendo will troll Sony, they would be trolling these companies as well
http://www.informationweek.com/news/galleries/security/attacks/229300675?pgno=1
Revolutionary
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Great, now my main password is known by both the Gawker hackers and PSN hackers. I didn't feel it was necessary to change it then (FUD), and I was right: nothing has happened. I have a feeling the same will hold true in this case.
SapientWolf
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It usually is an open door. Or, more specifically, security holes that aren't closed before they are exploited.Commanche Raisin Toast said:
I think it was absolutely necessary to tell people that their information was compromised as soon as Sony knew. Sony put PSN users at risk by not being prudent and alerting them of the danger in a timely manner and they deserve to be held accountable for that.
If their gross incompetence left a security hole that was exploited then they deserve to be held accountable for that too. Problem is that we may never know the details about the intrusion.
Green Biker Dude
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Cartman86 said:
the problem supposedly started around april 1st / march 31st with the rebug cfw
it might be unrelated, but april 8th wouldn't be too early to be related to this
The Last Wizard
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alright so what should I do?
iI had a credit card on my account
iI had a credit card on my account
Combichristoffersen
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Called my bank, cancelled my debit Visa card, and ordered a new one. Thanks, Sony. I hope heads will roll due to your incompetence.
Some perspective:
- Any company as large as Sony has the potential to be hacked. Just because Sony was hacked does not mean they are "incompetent". Flawed, sure.
- Secondly, Sony may have not even designed their security protocols and systems. They may have contracted it. So if that is the case it is the contractors fault.
- "Cybercrime" is a HUGE issue around the world. Most of the incident you do not even hear about, but they have a profound effect. The CIA and FBI have entire building dedicated to it. Even more crazy there are 40+ hackers in China for every 1 information security analyst in the US and UK.
- In fact it shows just how competent the hackers are. They knew exactly what to do and how to do it. I would not be surprised if this was more than a bunch of pissed off basement dwellers. It probably involved a large dedicated group. Even if Sony did have flaws, its like wearing a bulletproof vest and then getting hit by and RPG.
- Sony did not want to release information until it was 100% confirmed. Its simple corporate policy. Trust me for the sake of their PR staff, they wanted this info out ASAP. The worst thing they could have done is say one thing and then have to correct their first statement.
But really what should scare everyone and I surprised (wait no I am not) that no one has mentioned, is the hackers intentions. They knew that if they broke open the PSN it would do more than pirating PS3 games or cracking the PS3 to run whatever they wanted. When they do that nobody notices. Nobody cares. In fact they just look silly. They knew it would cause Sony substantial financial and public image damage. That is huge. The effect of this is easily in the upper millions of dollars once all is said and done. Now who has the last laugh? The hackers only had to cause Sony to shut the system down. Their goals was not your information, or that you purchased My Little Pony Home costumes, it was to hurt Sony. Mission accomplished.
- Any company as large as Sony has the potential to be hacked. Just because Sony was hacked does not mean they are "incompetent". Flawed, sure.
- Secondly, Sony may have not even designed their security protocols and systems. They may have contracted it. So if that is the case it is the contractors fault.
- "Cybercrime" is a HUGE issue around the world. Most of the incident you do not even hear about, but they have a profound effect. The CIA and FBI have entire building dedicated to it. Even more crazy there are 40+ hackers in China for every 1 information security analyst in the US and UK.
- In fact it shows just how competent the hackers are. They knew exactly what to do and how to do it. I would not be surprised if this was more than a bunch of pissed off basement dwellers. It probably involved a large dedicated group. Even if Sony did have flaws, its like wearing a bulletproof vest and then getting hit by and RPG.
- Sony did not want to release information until it was 100% confirmed. Its simple corporate policy. Trust me for the sake of their PR staff, they wanted this info out ASAP. The worst thing they could have done is say one thing and then have to correct their first statement.
But really what should scare everyone and I surprised (wait no I am not) that no one has mentioned, is the hackers intentions. They knew that if they broke open the PSN it would do more than pirating PS3 games or cracking the PS3 to run whatever they wanted. When they do that nobody notices. Nobody cares. In fact they just look silly. They knew it would cause Sony substantial financial and public image damage. That is huge. The effect of this is easily in the upper millions of dollars once all is said and done. Now who has the last laugh? The hackers only had to cause Sony to shut the system down. Their goals was not your information, or that you purchased My Little Pony Home costumes, it was to hurt Sony. Mission accomplished.
EternalGamer said:
Not knowing the details, I have no idea if Sony is incompetent because the PSN service going down, or that the information stolen happened at the same time. Epsilon, a system far better encrypted and has a lot more personal information about practically everyone who registered for online shopping, had information stolen from it not too long ago (names/email address and in some cases, real home address).
I've bolded the part where I completely agree with you, because its a very very stupid thing to wait to tell people that their personal data has been compromised. It's going to lead into a very ugly look at how Sony has handled this publicly now.
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