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[cyberheater]

Has anyone got a cure for this.

I know of a least 3 people that have got the same issues.

Here are my symptoms:-

Left PSP on standby for a couple of weeks that seemed to have deep drained the battery.

Could not even switch on PSP.

Plugged in charger and left overnight. Now PSP will switch on but the battery does not
seems to charge.

The orange charging light comes on for a short while then it stops.

When I check the status of the battery in the menu it states:-

Charge level 0%
Hours left -
Power Source External
Bettery Status Charged

If i replace the battery while the charger unit is in place:-

* The orange charge light comes on (for around 5 mins)

The battery status is:-

Charge level 0%
Hours left -
Power Source External
Battery Status Charging

But the battery never seems to charge.

Are your symptoms the same...

Does anyone know of a cure.

 

[rod]

happened to me on my 1st psp battery, forget it, its gone

 

[cyberheater]

Is the fix to replace the battery then?

 

[belgurdo]

Mine has done this a couple of times too...does that kill the battery life?

 

[Gattsu25]

sleep mode.....for a couple of weeks?

 

[DarienA]

sleep mode.....for a couple of weeks?

Yeah sounds like another person who didn't read the damn manual...

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Yeah sounds like another person who didn't read the damn manual...

what does the manual say about that?


I forgot my DS on sleep mode for more than a week I'm sure, and as soon as I turned it on it switched off, and refuses to turn back on again..

5 minutes recharge and viola

 

[cyberheater]

Surely the PSP firmware should detect that the battery is about to die and shut itself off.

 

[Gattsu25]

what does the manual say about that?

Oh, I didn't RTFM either, but I just employ a little bit of common sense, as well as a healthy dose of mistrust for electronics working the way they're supposed to. For the purposes of this discussion, I'll call it the Wakune Curse which states: Electronics in your possession will break sooner than electronics in the possession of others.

Since I've come to realize this curse, I have had far fewer issues. Mayhaps you are stricken as well? Though leaving your PSP in sleep mode for some weeks and your DS in sleep mode for a week suggest that the curse upon you is a different beast entirely (". ...and the beat's horn hath dunce writ upon it") and is of your own making.

 

[Shompola]

When I went out for my trip I turned the thing off completely... Turned it back on 3 weeks later and it worked just fine.

 

[GSG Flash]

You definitely killed the battery. NEVER let a rechargeable drain all the way or it's dead.

 

[DarienA]

what does the manual say about that?

woohoo! I haven't a clue and I'm too lazy to go find my manual... besides eating at Cracker Barrel > hunting for PSP manual!!!

<exit stage left>

 

[LuCkymoON]

Never let consumer electronics sit unused with batteries in them for extended periods of time. Always removed them.

 

[turok4n64]

i thought it was just understood the psp drains batteries? :lol

j/k aside..i've noticed this as well...could be a firmware problem

 

[cyberheater]

i thought it was just understood the psp drains batteries? :lol

j/k aside..i've noticed this as well...could be a firmware problem

Yep. Which is my point. Mobile phones switch themselves off rather then kill the battery.

 

[radioheadrule83]

This must just be a standby issue surely...

I've been playing the DS holding it right in my hands when it goes off. My phone goes off because of a weak battery every few days. I just charge and it's fine.

Maybe with these systems on standby the system isn't fully actively aware to shut off and save the battery? :s

I dunno. But that pretty much sucks.

 

[Vandiger]

Its listed in the manual, page 118:

The battery loses its charge even when the system is turned off.

Because battery power is used even when the system is turned off, it is recommended that you charge the battery frequently. Also, remove the battery pack from the system when the system is not in use for extended periods of time.

 

[Mejilan]

You definitely killed the battery. NEVER let a rechargeable drain all the way or it's dead.

Li Ion batts (like those in most cell phones, the GBA SP, the DS, and the PSP) do not die when fully discharged.

 

[Wario64]

Li Ion batts (like those in most cell phones, the GBA SP, the DS, and the PSP) do not die when fully discharged.

if you leave them discharged for long periods of time, it's bad for the batteries

 

[cyberheater]

Li Ion batts (like those in most cell phones, the GBA SP, the DS, and the PSP) do not die when fully discharged.

I and a few other folks with dead PSP batterys would beg to differ.

 

[Piepz]

sleep mode.....for a couple of weeks?

[sarcasm]
I guess PSP is too boring, because cyberheater didn't play it for weeks :lol
[/sarcasm]

 

[cyberheater]

[sarcasm]
I guess PSP is too boring, because cyberheater didn't play it for weeks :lol
[/sarcasm]

LOL. Obviously spending too much time at GAF

 

[Shompola]

doesnt warranty cover this though?

 

[Mejilan]

if you leave them discharged for long periods of time, it's bad for the batteries

Granted, but the act of discharging is part of its normal function. I've had my PS, DS, PSP, cell, and iPod batts (all Li Ion) fully discharge before with absolutely no consequence. Obviously, I use all of them often enough to recharge them once the batts fully drain.

IIRC, Li Ion batts generally have a full 500 charge cycles before they truly die.

The above is generally true for intact Li Ion batts. Can't vouch for defective ones.

 

[Crazymoogle]

Li Ion batts (like those in most cell phones, the GBA SP, the DS, and the PSP) do not die when fully discharged.

Actually, two things happen:

-Battery Capacity - over time - suffers a greatly increased amount of damage (same with leaving a fully charged battery along for a long period of time).
-Voltage continues to drop below the 'zero-point' if it's out of power, and if it drops too far, the charger cannot resuscitate the battery.

 

[Suikoguy]

if you leave them discharged for long periods of time, it's bad for the batteries

Yeah, which is why they ship with a partial charge, and not connected to the PSP.

Step 1: Try charging it one last time
Step 2: Contact sony for a replacement battery, it should be under warenty and should just need them to send you a replacement battery.
Step 3: Try freezing the battery. Some batteries can be sorta revived if dropped to really cold temps.

 

[cyberheater]

I'll try freezing it. I've got nothing to lose at this point.

 

[MarkRyan]

Doesn't the PSP go into sleep mode automatically when you flick the power switch? And seriously, who the hell takes out the battery when they're not playing the system?

Quit making cyberheater think he did something wrong. If the battery dies because you ignore the system for a couple of weeks (that's not long at all) then something's wrong with the battery or the hardware.

 

[Wario64]

Doesn't the PSP go into sleep mode automatically when you flick the power switch?

yep. but if you're not gonna use it for a while, you should turn it off completely (press and hold up for a few seconds)

 

[GSG Flash]

Doesn't the PSP go into sleep mode automatically when you flick the power switch? And seriously, who the hell takes out the battery when they're not playing the system?

Quit making cyberheater think he did something wrong. If the battery dies because you ignore the system for a couple of weeks (that's not long at all) then something's wrong with the battery or the hardware.

It's true, it's not all cyberheater's fault mainly because with electronics anything can happen.

 

[MarkRyan]

yep. but if you're not gonna use it for a while, you should turn it off completely (press and hold up for a few seconds)

I dunno about cyberheater, but I don't usually plan to ignore my electronics.

 

[Gattsu25]

I dunno about cyberheater, but I don't usually plan to ignore my electronics.

so you leave that cell unplugged and on for weeks when no one calls you?

 

[MarkRyan]

so you leave that cell unplugged and on for weeks when no one calls you?

What the hell are you talking about?

I use my cellphone daily. But things like my GBA SP, DS, old Game Boys and NGPC? I use them when I want, then put them down and pick 'em back up when I want. Before recently, I hadn't played my SP in months, but now I'm playing it again and it works fine. Didn't take out the battery (that'd require a screwdriver anyway) and it works perfectly fine, just as it should.

If you want to advocate following the manual to a T for all your electronics, I hope you unplug your TV/VCR/DVD player/PS2/Xbox/etc. every time you're done using them and never put your Game Boy in your back pocket.

 

[Fuzzy]

What the hell are you talking about?

I use my cellphone daily. But things like my GBA SP, DS, old Game Boys and NGPC? I use them when I want, then put them down and pick 'em back up when I want. Before recently, I hadn't played my SP in months, but now I'm playing it again and it works fine. Didn't take out the battery (that'd require a screwdriver anyway) and it works perfectly fine, just as it should.

You didn't leave it in sleep mode, you turned it off like you're supposed to.

 

[MarkRyan]

You didn't leave it in sleep mode, you turned it off like you're supposed to.

As we already established, the basic "turn off" function of the PSP puts the system in sleep mode. I've run my cellphone 'til it died while on vacation more than once and it still works beautifully.

If not touching your PSP for two weeks means it dies then something's wrong. I'm sure this doesn't happen to everyone--I'd guess at least 70% of PSP owners only ever put their system into sleep mode and don't even know that holding the power switch turns it off.

 

[Juice]

Anyone who is implying that cyberheater made some sort of "rookie mistake" by leaving his PSP in sleep mode for two weeks is either trying to spin Sony damage control or simply can't imagine a sane person ignoring something so perfect as a PSP for more than two weeks.

As it's been said before, the PSP's sleep function isn't some crazy L+R+Select button combination like on select GBA games. It's when you flick the power switch off. Even on the DS, you have a power button and a lid. If you close the lid, the system is still on, but when you click power (even just for a second!) the main system power is turned off. Anyone saying there's a clear benefit to turning the system completely off might be spot on correct, but that doesn't mean the system's design encourages people to EVER turn the fucker off. If they knew this was a problem then they definitely implemented sleep poorly

So can't we all just agree that while the sleep function on the PSP is uber convenient (because I don't think any of use could stand having to boot a fucking handheld for a minute every time we wanted to put in a few minutes), it was implemented a bit nonsensically?

First there's the issue that the system can't figure out that it shouldn't be allowed to go to sleep until any memory card reads/writes in queue are finished, which is plainly fucktarded. That should be written into the hardware, and as a result most of the homebrew stuff is going to be greatly detrimented by the fact that they're going to have to write an entire library to protect against the sleep function wiping out the memory stick so often.

And now it would seem that the sleep function not only drains the battery faster than leaving it "off" (where the clock and whatnot keep going), but that it doesn't let go of its vice grip over the current in the memory even if it means committing absolute zero charge suicide. I know it's sad to ultimately find that your PSP turned itself off in the middle of a rousing round of MGA, but compared to the hardware failing permanently, I'm pretty sure most of us could handle restarting a mission.

I'm pissed about this because I've had an iPod die for the same reason (iPod's draw way too much fucking power when they're asleep and I can't for the life of me figure out why they need it--can't I just turn the useless clock off?). I hope this shit doesn't spoil my 6 month trip to Japan next week.

 

[The Faceless Master]

or simply can't imagine a sane person ignoring something so perfect as a PSP for more than two weeks

more like i can't believe someone left it on in sleep mode for 3 weeks... WITHOUT PLUGGING IT IN... thats crazy!

with a battery life as low as it is on the PSP, mine's plugged in at every possible moment, sleep, on, off or not...

now my DS and GBASP, i can leave lying around unplugged..