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PSP Go? 249.99!!!!

Do we have any impressions comparing the Go to the standard layout PSP in terms of comfort of holding and using the controls?

I'm going to be trading in a bunch of games (PS2/PS3) and my DS and games because I'm sort of done with my DS once i finish Chronotrigger. There are games I'd like to play on the PSP, and I'd like it to play some PS1 games on from the PSN that I love but just can't play on my HDTV because they look horrid. I'm wondering whether to get the Go or one of the other, cheaper versions. I like the looks of the Go better and the smaller form factor but would like to know whether one is preferred for the controls layout.
 
teiresias said:
Do we have any impressions comparing the Go to the standard layout PSP in terms of comfort of holding and using the controls?

I'm going to be trading in a bunch of games (PS2/PS3) and my DS and games because I'm sort of done with my DS once i finish Chronotrigger. There are games I'd like to play on the PSP, and I'd like it to play some PS1 games on from the PSN that I love but just can't play on my HDTV because they look horrid. I'm wondering whether to get the Go or one of the other, cheaper versions. I like the looks of the Go better and the smaller form factor but would like to know whether one is preferred for the controls layout.
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All the impressions I've read so far have said the GO is more comfortable, even the nub.

Trading the DS in is a bad move though.
 
Tobor said:
All the impressions I've read so far have said the GO is more comfortable, even the nub.

Trading the DS in is a bad move though.
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I don't have time for two handheld systems, I hardly have time for one handheld and one console, so it won't really phase me that much.
 
Bizzyb said:
Exactly, they are aiming at the casual crowd sitting on the fence for that $250 PSP with digital only games.
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I'd agree with your sarcastic response to that. I'm precisely the target the post was responding to. Somebody who was interested in the PSP but never bought one, hates UMDs and loves digital distribution...and yet I'm not going to be buying a PSP Go any time soon.

I was expecting the feature-cutting to result in a similar price to the PSP-3000. Given it's actual price, I'd rather buy a PSP 3000. That's a bad thing, because if I was going to buy a 3000, I'd already own it.
 
i think anyone that would legitimately buy psp games will most likely not be buying the $250 option. if you're really into hardware pr0n you probably already have a psp. most likely a psp 1000 at that. so the "casual" consumer will probably opt for the cheaper model.

and beyond the near-sightedness of no touch screen or dual analogue sticks, the fact that sony's system will still be as easily hackable as its older kindred is a damn shame. sony's decision to keep the older psps and the psp go essentially the same will not benefit their rampant piracy problem.

sure: you may get some decent numbers from the hardcore gaming side on psp go hardware initially...but most of them dudes are going to still download your shit for free, even if it means playing it on their older units until dark alex cracks the newer one.

stupid, man.
 
Tobor said:
:lol Ridiculous. I'll take a smaller, better designed handheld with the addition of 16GB internal memory over a cat helmet, but maybe that's just me.
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didnt you hear 16GB is useless :D

guys, you miss the point - Sony will happily sell you PSP 3000 as well... thats why they are still there :).
 
I have a 1000 and one of my main complaints is the sound output from the speakers. It sounds so tiny compared to the DS and especially the DSi. I don't usually get to play with headphones. Anyone heard any impressions of the Go in this regard? I've never used a 2000/3000, so I'm not sure how they compare either.
 
Axl said:
I have a 1000 and one of my main complaints is the sound output from the speakers. It sounds so tiny compared to the DS and especially the DSi. I don't usually get to play with headphones. Anyone heard any impressions of the Go in this regard? I've never used a 2000/3000, so I'm not sure how they compare either.
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PSP2000/3000 sound output was better overall, no need to cup the bottom of the device for sound to go your way like with the 1000. PSPgo looks to utilize the 2000/3000 speaker tech.
 
SonComet said:
If the new version feels more solid, is more comfortable to hold, and doesn't require headphones to not sound horrible I will consider it a huge upgrade. I have a 2000 with an 8GB memory stick, but I'm still tempted to upgrade for those reasons.
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Just to clarify ... my last post was sarcasm :p
 
Barkley's Justice said:
i think anyone that would legitimately buy psp games will most likely not be buying the $250 option. if you're really into hardware pr0n you probably already have a psp. most likely a psp 1000 at that. so the "casual" consumer will probably opt for the cheaper model.

and beyond the near-sightedness of no touch screen or dual analogue sticks, the fact that sony's system will still be as easily hackable as its older kindred is a damn shame. sony's decision to keep the older psps and the psp go essentially the same will not benefit their rampant piracy problem.

sure: you may get some decent numbers from the hardcore gaming side on psp go hardware initially...but most of them dudes are going to still download your shit for free, even if it means playing it on their older units until dark alex cracks the newer one.

stupid, man.
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Of course it could be conceivable that one might not (or has ever) have found the current PSP hardware design all that attractive or practical and will happily jump into the playstation family swimming pool with the PSPgo, ready and willing to legitmately buy PSP games.
 
billy.sea said:
Sony has the chance to rise the PSP over the DS, yet they decided to kill it with their greedy price tag.
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If I remember correctly, your "General" killed his own just to try and win "the race"...
 
billy.sea said:
Sony has the chance to rise the PSP over the DS, yet they decided to kill it with their greedy price tag.
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:lol DS is looking to overtake Playstation's worldwide sales any moment you know that?
 
Was this posted anywhere?

http://www.pspworld.com/sony-psp/news/pachter-changes-tune-on-psp-go-pricing-010450.php

Pachter Changes Tune on PSP Go Pricing

Michael Pachter said:
"I sincerely regret the choice of words in my response to Geoff Keighley's question in last week's Bonus Round, where I said that Sony is "ripping off" the consumer by pricing the PSP Go at $249.99. I made a poor choice of words, and I do NOT think that Sony is doing anything nefarious in choosing their pricing strategy. The company has the right to price its products at a point that they think is competitive, and has no obligation to sell products at lower than a competitive price. They have been subsidizing purchases of the PS3 since launch, to the tune of 22 million sold at a loss of $100 or more apiece (on average), so if they are able to make a profit on the PSP Go, more power to them,"
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249 USD is absurd if one already owns a PSP.

For 249 USD;

After the iPhone price drops, you can buy an 8GB iPhone and 4 seasons of Family Guy, or a similarly priced TV series. An additional 5.6 Hours of Entertainment, other than the fact it is a phone, which is probably better than whatever the average person is using.

An Xbox 360 Arcade, along with Call of Duty 4 or 5, or Halo 3, or Mass Effect AND Mirrors Edge, or most other games totaling fifty bucks and under. Probably another 8 hours of entertainment, more if you have a new game with multiplayer.

A Nintendo DS, plus 3 games.

A Wii, plus a game or two.

4-5 New games retailing at full price.

All of the above provide additional entertainment, and you are getting something new, such as a game or game console. Al of those options include a new game, or several new games. If none of those appeal to anybody, you can purchase a PSP GO, for the same price and play all the games you already can play on your old PSP. The bonus? You don't have to find a space approximately the size of your wallet to carry a couple extra UMD's, because you have 16 gigs of flash memory.

Of course, if you already have a PSP, you can spend 70 bucks and you have a 16 GB Memory Stick. There, now you have a PSP go.
 
an iPhone?? You mean the product that costs about $100 a month to use?


Also Wii's and 360s are a different market. If I want a portable media/game device I'm not going to buy a 360. The Go fits easily in any pocket, nearly 50% smaller and lighter then PSP 1000/2000/3000, 16Gb storage, microphone, bluetooth, etc. The system is definitely an improvement.
 
Alright, fair enough. I'll revise what I said earlier. PSP Go at 249.99 isn't so much of a rip off as it is a poor decision by Sony imo. To be honest, I don't understand the point of even releasing this model when the 3000 can already do everything the GO can do except for blue tooth. I would have rather seen sony put this R&D into the PSP 2 and released it a year or 2 down the road.

Like I said before, even to this day I think the 5 year old hardware delivers the best graphics on any hand held machine, including iphone and zune. Sony could easily take the exact same graphics capabilities, add a touch screen, a second analog nub, and blue tooth capability and call that "PSP2." I guarantee you the majority of gamers would accept that.
 
Ember128 said:
The average Cell phone bill is $73, according to JD Power. It is completely achievable to use an iPhone for $73 a month.
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And how is paying $876 a year cheaper then a PSP now? you're saying everyone needs a cellphone?
 
No, I'm saying if you already have a cellphone, and you get an iPhone after the price drops, you end up paying 99USD for the new phone. If you are already spending $73 a month on a cell phone bill, as the average person does according to JD Power, and end up spending $73 a month afterwards, you are still not paying anything more because you have an iPhone.

Please stop attacking Ray Bolger.
 
Ember128 said:
No, I'm saying if you already have a cellphone, and you get an iPhone after the price drops, you end up paying 99USD for the new phone. If you are already spending $73 a month on a cell phone bill, as the average person does according to JD Power, and end up spending $73 a month afterwards, you are still not paying anything more because you have an iPhone.

Please stop attacking Ray Bolger.
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Hold your horses there chap. Have you EVER, EVER, EVER, wondered why the number was $73 on a cell phone bill IN THE FIRST PLACE? Have you ever considered that it was because of all these cell phone subsidy plans?








I guess I'm asking for too much on GAF.
 
Rather than delve into deep introspective philosophical quandaries about why Cell phone bills are so high, I'm looking at numbers and statistics and seeing how they apply in today's world. Specifically, how it applies to the net cost of operating a phone.
 
$73 a month on a Iphone?

I love the thing, but the son-of-bitch costs me nearly $80 a month after taxes and surcharges, and this is with the cheapest voice plan to go with the required data plan!
 
Ember128 said:
Rather than delve into deep introspective philosophical quandaries about why Cell phone bills are so high, I'm looking at numbers and statistics and seeing how they apply in today's world. Specifically, how it applies to the net cost of operating a phone.
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Net cost of operating Cellphone - 73 USD/month


You want me to tell you the net cost of operating a PSP? 0
 
Blu_LED said:
Why in the world are you comparing cell phones and video game systems?
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The PSP GO Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

The iPhone Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

I'm attempting to quantify how much new entertainment, as it were, from making either of those purchases, among other possibilities.

gantz85, I'm assuming someone already has a cell phone, at the average cost of operating one.
 
Ember128 said:
The PSP GO Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

The iPhone Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

I'm attempting to quantify how much new entertainment, as it were, from making either of those purchases, among other possibilities.

gantz85, I'm assuming someone already has a cell phone, at the average cost of operating one.
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I agree kinda. The iPhone is not really a liable gaming system. In all reality, its one of the stupidest gaming system ever, mainly for the fact that you can never have a real hardcore experience due to the lack of buttons. With the PSPgo (or just PSP for that matter) you are getting so many amazing games in your pocket at all times. Its really hard for me to compare them just on that fact.
 
Blu_LED said:
I agree kinda. The iPhone is not really a liable gaming system. In all reality, its one of the stupidest gaming system ever, many for the fact that you can never have a real hardcore experience due to the lack of buttons. With the PSPgo (or just PSP for that matter) you are getting so many amazing games in your pocket at all times. Its really hard for me to compare them just on that fact.
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*nods* I Definitely understand where you are coming from on that one. We have a similar view really, I mentioned seasons of Family Guy or another TV Series instead of a game for that reason.

In that way, it is still entertainment in a portable form.
 
Ember128 said:
The PSP GO Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

The iPhone Is a portable system on which you watch movies, play games, and listen to music. It is a portable form of entertainment.

I'm attempting to quantify how much new entertainment, as it were, from making either of those purchases, among other possibilities.

gantz85, I'm assuming someone already has a cell phone, at the average cost of operating one.
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What do you mean, "new entertainment"?

Cellphone owners buying into iPhones are likely already carrying cellphones and who knows what kinds of features their previous phones had. Incremental cost vs incremental value is hard to measure here.

I can understand you're trying to conduct an analysis of the cost-benefit options between an iPhone and a PSP but so far you're showing that you don't have the chops to do it.
 
$249 in 2009 is going to be received just as well as $249 was received in 2004... except this time around (as opposed to the original 1000), there will be much better form factor, better screen, better d-pad and nub, a TV out option, blue tooth compatibility and 16GB internal storage.

And unlike the original launch of the 1000, for those who don't want to accept this price point, there's a cheaper model available in the 3000.
 
gantz85 said:
What do you mean, "new entertainment"?

Cellphone owners buying into iPhones are likely already carrying cellphones and who knows what kinds of features their previous phones had. Incremental cost vs incremental value is hard to measure here.

I can understand you're trying to conduct an analysis of the cost-benefit options between an iPhone and a PSP but so far you're showing that you don't have the chops to do it.
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Coincidentally, I miscalculated the math for the iPhone.

Instead of getting 5.6 hours of a 21 minute TV Series and the iPhone for 249USD, you actually get 22.4. My Mistake.

Edit:
By new entertainment, I mean something new that entertains. Like, you get a new game, or a new TV series to watch, as the case may be.
 
The important question is, what does a PSP Go at $250 offer over a PSP whatever with custom firmware? Because that is a lot of grip.
 
Brannon said:
The important question is, what does a PSP Go at $250 offer over a PSP whatever with custom firmware? Because that is a lot of grip.
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Yay self quote.

Another question is, which system will Gamestop push the first few months the PSP Go is out? Sure it'll be out for the holidays and Sony is letting them get a nice mark-up on it, but at the same time, the Go buyers won't be buying the plethora of used PSP games on the shelf. So my flawless prediction will be that Gamestop and other stores that have UMD stock on hand will push the legacy PSPs first, then when the holidays and post-holidays are over (up to Mid-January), they'll push the PSP Go as normal.

Sell PSP Go on the holidays, get extra 20-50 dollars one time (too generous?).

or

Sell PSP 1-3000 on the holidays, get extra 80 dollars on used games plus the warranties to go with them and the bonus that maybe they'll come back for more later on.

It really is the biggest hurdle of the PSP Go, and if this way of thinking is floating around the net right now, you know the corporate bean counters at the brick and mortars are way ahead of the game.

EDIT: waitaminit, they have those Playstation Cards, too. That could sweeten the deal for PSP Go considerably.
 
anyone in this thread actually get to see the white? It looks beautiful in the pictures, but a few close up shots show that it has a glittery white color, which i'm not sure i'm completely sold on vs just plain white. How prominent is the "glitter" or sparkles.
 
I'd imagine that the sparkles on the white show up because of the harsh lighting. My mint green has sparkles that are prominent when I have a bright light shining on it (the few times I take it with me in the bathroom) but for the most part it's not noticeable under regular lighting conditions.
 
I think that Sony is going to have a really easy time selling this thing at $250. The Original PSP that had not even half of the features of the PSPgo (Added thru firmware updates and some hardware) was able to move at a steady clip for the first 12-15 months (until the DSLite ended that). Also, the original PSP had a cute, but huge form factor, screen problems out of this world, and a software lineup that made even the Gamecube cry. It should be fairly easy for Sony to sell this at that price point.

Hell, if Apple can sell people a six hundred dollar iPhone that couldn't do 3G phone or internet, had no applications, had a browser that crashed at the mere sight of java script, and locked people into 2 year contracts, I would be surprised if Sony couldn't get those same types of people to spend 250 on something that has tons of features and some good games (and coming) to boot. It'd be surprising if at $250 this thing tanked or did horribly in any way.
 
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