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PSP Go? 249.99!!!!
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Zen said:
True, but I really want to play Resistance Restribution, and it's not available on the store. Also, several games I want to play are available in the PSN store, but are significantly cheaper on UMD.
Ultimately, digital distribution makes too much sense for PSP to keep physical media, but already I can see Sony's monopoly is going to be a problem.
Gamecocks625
Member
went ahead and preordered the black one today on amazon
hopefully the accessories, such as the pouch, will be avaiable on there at some point before launch.
hopefully the accessories, such as the pouch, will be avaiable on there at some point before launch.
Firestreak
Member
I don't understand why every game that was printed on a UMD can't be ripped directly from said UMD and uploaded onto the PSN store. Then stores that physically sell the PSP Go could register all of your UMDs and register your PSP the download license. Gamestop for example would benefit because they could then sell you the UMD licenses, and they could sell used UMDs to people without UMD drives.
I don't see myself owning 2 PSPs considering the very limited use I get out of the one, while I can definetly see myself using the PSP Go a lot more due to its size. But I'm not going to get rid of my 3000 while I still have games that mostly I've never even played.
This whole thing has just frozen my PSP purchasing. I'm not going to buy any UMDs because I don't know if I'll at some point want a Go, and if those UMDs will then be useless. All the while, they announce this thing, and the PSP games releasing still aren't all on the PSN store. This is effectively splitting the userbase of possible-upgraders and willnever-upgraders, the former no longer able to buy PSP games unless they're on the PSN Store.
I don't see myself owning 2 PSPs considering the very limited use I get out of the one, while I can definetly see myself using the PSP Go a lot more due to its size. But I'm not going to get rid of my 3000 while I still have games that mostly I've never even played.
This whole thing has just frozen my PSP purchasing. I'm not going to buy any UMDs because I don't know if I'll at some point want a Go, and if those UMDs will then be useless. All the while, they announce this thing, and the PSP games releasing still aren't all on the PSN store. This is effectively splitting the userbase of possible-upgraders and willnever-upgraders, the former no longer able to buy PSP games unless they're on the PSN Store.
The Faceless Master
Member
the problem is a matter of 'intellectual property' rights and licensing agreements.Firestreak said:
then #1 hold-up is usually licensed music.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Hello Pandora solution.Strider2K99 said:
The only relevant game this really affects is Lumines right?The Faceless Master said:
Firestreak
Member
The licensing has always irked me. Executives and lawyers don't seem to understand that it's the data people are buying, and it's the same exact product if it's printed on a disc, cartridge, umd or uploaded on the internet. Why they need separate licensing baffles me.
I really wanted the PSP Go. But Rock Band Unplugged came out, also wanted to play Resistance Retribution, just picked up Monster Hunter Freedom Unite... all UMD releases. I don't want to wait to have to download them. What about Dissidia? Digital release?
Now I'm thinking I'll stick with my regular PSP. The lack of announcing any potential digital-release dates along with not releasing current games while not providing any sort of release date schedule for current new games has me not wanting a Go anymore. Sad really...
Now I'm thinking I'll stick with my regular PSP. The lack of announcing any potential digital-release dates along with not releasing current games while not providing any sort of release date schedule for current new games has me not wanting a Go anymore. Sad really...
depward said:I really wanted the PSP Go. But Rock Band Unplugged came out, also wanted to play Resistance Retribution, just picked up Monster Hunter Freedom Unite... all UMD releases. I don't want to wait to have to download them. What about Dissidia? Digital release?
Now I'm thinking I'll stick with my regular PSP. The lack of announcing any potential digital-release dates along with not releasing current games while not providing any sort of release date schedule for current new games has me not wanting a Go anymore. Sad really...
not that complicated, once go is out, ALL new UMD titles will be on the PSN as well.... and before go is out, they will let us know what older titles are coming to PSN.
Darkpen said:
I can't think of a "good" solution. There's no unique identifier for the UMDs. So unless someone actually takes your disc, there's bound to be some abuse of the system. But I would not be enthusiastic about a trade-in scenario where I lose my whole collection of 30+ UMDs in exchange for intangible files.
I'm hoping Sony errs on the side of consumer friendliness here, but I'm not optimistic.
outunderthestars
Banned
theBishop said:
It's going to have to be a trade-in program.
Gamecocks625
Member
DMeisterJ said:
Yup. I liked the white at first, but once I noticed the sparkly finish on the white (however noticable it may be) on several videos, I decided to go with black. I'm sure it will be fingerprint magnet, though.
At any rate, I'll sell my old video iPod for a 16GB M2 stick and transfer all of my music and The Office and Seinfeld videos to the 32GB PSPgo.
Actually that's not what I've been told. Of course even unique identifier remains open to some abuse (as it gives you two copies for one).theBishop said:
How does Steam handle this btw - isn't there a way to make your CD/DVD copy downloadable as well?
In interest of really avoiding abuse, this would work best if DRM was time-limited, so you have to keep refreshing it every few days or so.
Deadly Monk
Banned
Paid for my white Go today. Glad to get it over with.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
With what, constant account verification via wifi connection? That's about as bad as using a UMD in the firs-RuGalz said:
Ohhhhhh.
DarthWaiter
Banned
The white PSP GO looks sexy, but i just don't understand the price.
Intangible files? They're locked to your PSN account, which I openly welcome. Downside is the trouble of downloading said games. As an owner of the 1000 model, I openly welcome not only the umd-lessness of the Go, but its significant weight loss and compact nature, as I hope it'll cut down on wasted energy from the UMD drive.theBishop said:
The most tangibleness I ever get out of games nowadays is the actual packaging anyways. Otherwise, its just a disc with data, and if that data is downloadable only, then so be it. But I am concerned about companies going exclusively DD. The sheer amount of backlash on the Playstation Blog post for Holy Invasion of Privacy speaks volumes for consumers who value physical media, and my thread on GAFers and their purchasing decisions in the future of this new landscape in gaming shows that not all hardcore are hivemind in acceptance.
As long as Sony holds true to what was said at E3, about continuing to support UMD, then I see no problem. People who want something like the Go will pick it up, and it'll definitely be a slow rate of adoption, but the question will be how something like a high-demand title like Holy Invasion of Privacy going DD exclusive effect its sales.
Their decision to go DD only was most likely driven by the increase in profit margins by being only DD, at the loss of shelf time in a retail space. If the game itself is no more than 100mb, I can see this as almost being a non-issue, but at the price point of $20, most console consumers expect a packaged good, and we will have to wait and see.
Games, to me, are tangible through the input device that it is part of, and of the visuals and the music, and what games offer as a form of interactive entertainment, but beyond that? No, its not "intangible." Packaging is lacking, certainly, but if there's anything that this generation of the digital world has taught me, its that the medium in which art is portrayed should not be its limitation.
Digital content is like creative ideas trapped within executable files; trapped, yes, but the perception is so much more when you remove the medium.
So you don't need physical disc at all - the CDKey becomes a downloadable code - I'm assuming it can only be tied to one account.RuGalz said:
I find the whole thing a bit silly - a disc doesn't make something tangible. MMOs on disc are just scrap-plastic without a server (and yet tens of milions keep buying them).Darkpen said:
It's the packaging/materials around the disc that are nice to have - personally I don't think it's a bad idea for more DD games to be sold Patapon2 style in the future. It might be one way for Sony to move focus away from UMDs, without major scaling down of games sold at retail.
Captain Smoker
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Tideas said:
It has a touch screen (so that's about a million things right there), an accelerometer and "open source" dev. So it can do all sorts of shit the PSP can't. See? I used that angle.
The iPod touch on the other hand, doesn't have "real" controls which badly hamstrings its conventional gaming appeal to me. But to pretend the PSP Go can do everything the iPod can is laughable. Please don't do it again.
pissed because I traded my 3000 in on the assumption the Go would have a touchscreen
Oni Jazar said:My 4Gb stick is getting waaay too cramped lately and I didn't want to buy a bigger one that could be useless if I ever get a PSP Go. So i picked up one of these:
and one of these
Hopefully it'll all work out.
I just bought these.
Works perfectly
(My adapter is a San Disk one though).
b.e.r.g said:What's "open source"? Last time I wanted to check out iPhone dev'ing Apple asked for $100... and that was the end of that
I think by "open source" he means "slightly less closed than the typical console game system", but it's still a joke to use that phrase to describe iPhone development, quotes or no.
TTP said:We sure there is absolutely no way for the end user to replace the PSP Go battery? Perhaps unscrewing here reveals the battery.
Sure it's less practical, but at least you don't have to ship it back to Sony or whatever.
they said they will probably offer addon battery that plugs into that port...
Mutanthands
Member
xfactor said:
Why would they do that? It would unnecessarily complicate maintenance. They really don't want everyone sending their PSPGo in 2 years, and have to de-solder every battery to replace it.
It'll likely be a small plug, like with the SixAxis/Dualshock 3. The fact that they made the screws so prominent on the back points to relatively easy access for the slightly technically savvy, like on the DS/DSi.
Sony could still suprise us with something stupid, but I would think they have made enough hardware mistakes this generation. We'll see.
Gamecocks625
Member
I don't know. The white does look pretty cool afterall
Gamecocks625
Member
Dice said:
I assume that's the white one. Perhaps a silver will make it to the Japanese market.
Hm. Nope, still looks cheap and flimsy.
I would have bought any of the following:
PSP Micro
Ala the GBA micro, a classy and more portable miniaturization of the PSP, maybe dropping the UMD slot. Come to think of it, even the Micro's battery was user-replaceable.
$180
PSP Dual Stick
Yeah, not backwards compatible, but look at the DSi. I might settle for a Go form factor for this, grudgingly.
$180
PSP Touch
Touchscreen, accelerometers, preferably classier than the Go.
Yea even unto $250.
But I'm not paying $250 for a gimped, ugly, cheap, nonreplaceable-battery version of the PSP. I frankly don't understand why anyone would. I might pick one up in several years for completism, but only at a small fraction of the price.
The PSP is a wonderful device, and I think Sony's done just about anything they can to sabotage it. Hey, at least we should get more downloadable games for the good old fashioned PSPs, right?
I would have bought any of the following:
PSP Micro
Ala the GBA micro, a classy and more portable miniaturization of the PSP, maybe dropping the UMD slot. Come to think of it, even the Micro's battery was user-replaceable.
$180
PSP Dual Stick
Yeah, not backwards compatible, but look at the DSi. I might settle for a Go form factor for this, grudgingly.
$180
PSP Touch
Touchscreen, accelerometers, preferably classier than the Go.
Yea even unto $250.
But I'm not paying $250 for a gimped, ugly, cheap, nonreplaceable-battery version of the PSP. I frankly don't understand why anyone would. I might pick one up in several years for completism, but only at a small fraction of the price.
The PSP is a wonderful device, and I think Sony's done just about anything they can to sabotage it. Hey, at least we should get more downloadable games for the good old fashioned PSPs, right?
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
No, I finally stopped being lazy and did my own research.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-sony/51184?type=flv
It looks like crap.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-sony/51184?type=flv
It looks like crap.
jgkspsx said:
First off...hardware for completism? That's pretty stupid (in most cases). unless it's a rare release of a console, there's really no reason to buy a different version of the PSP for "completism" in my opinion.
Secondly, as I've said many times before, the design of the original PSP isn't all that great. The analog nub is in a HORRIBLE position, for a hand like mine (a bit on the large side, so my thumb cramps when trying to use it). So...the Go actually is an improvement in some ways. I understand why you might not want it since you OWN a PSP. But I don't, and it's a bETTER handheld in my opinion, in every way EXCEPT the non-removable battery. Yeah, I'm still pretty pissed about that too.
But still, it's not unreasonable, though the price may be.
Brother, don't I know it. But then most large collections are when you think about them. What can I say, I just really like handhelds.TuxBobble said:
I can see that, and mostly agree. From an industrial design/aesthetic perspective, though, I think it's a disaster.
Good points. (I have PSPs 1000 & 2000 and far too many UMDs, so I'm approaching it from a strong upgrade standpoint.) I was being a little dramatic, maybe, but it's an irritation.
But we agree that price and battery are both poor decisions on Sony's part. And they're unforced errors, as far as I can tell. Oh well, what else is new.
jgkspsx said:
Yea, I do agree about the price and battery. Would have loved replacable, and $200 even. (Gotta be a LITTLE more expensive, for a "new" product)
Not to mention "pearl white". I will never understand why they'd release a black and white, but have the white be "pearl". At least have black, ceramic white (plain white), and pearl white options. But yea, the colors weren't the best idea.
Either way, I do like the lack of UMD, because it's a nice push for digital downloads. It'll be a big headstart to Sony in the next handheld console war.
Not to mention honestly, I have a slight feeling that the digitization shift will have some play when they release a PSPhone. (might not happen yet, but it will eventually) Since all games would be digital, they'd be re-downloadable on the Phone, and people wouldn't hesitate much to buy it.
So, I think short term the Go isn't the best idea. But long term, it's paving the way for Sony's handheld gaming platforms in the future.
Gamecocks625
Member
It must be the lighting because in these pics the white looks...well...white.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
TuxBobble said:
A $250 stopgap. Thank you Sony. How much would we be drooling right now if Sony had announced a PsPhone with a touchscreen? Subsidized 16GB at $199, 32GB $299 with a two year contract at all the major cell phone companies. I'd drop my iPhone in a second for the better gaming capabilities.
I keep saying it, but it's such a missed opportunity. Same with MS and their Zune HD. Slap on a damn cell phone to that unit, you idiots!! Even beyond the convenience of having an all in one device, you get the freedom of wireless data from just about anywhere. It almost makes TOO MUCH sense for these two huge, slow, lumbering companies that are slowly getting eaten alive by smarter, leaner opponents.
I have an iPhone and I'm happy with an iPhone. Why the hell would I want another phone? I don't believe for a second that Sony's OS software could even come close to matching Apple's (Safari, iPod, etc). The PSP media player doesn't even have a random play all and the system has been out for how many years now?
Second, making it a smartphone instead of a gaming system adds a monthly charge to the system. People bitch about $250 but are prepared to spend $100+ a month for a smartphone. That expensive monthly price keeps it out of reach from pretty much all kids limiting the userbase to over 20 year-olds when right now the largest PSP market is young teens.
Second, making it a smartphone instead of a gaming system adds a monthly charge to the system. People bitch about $250 but are prepared to spend $100+ a month for a smartphone. That expensive monthly price keeps it out of reach from pretty much all kids limiting the userbase to over 20 year-olds when right now the largest PSP market is young teens.