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PSP Go? 249.99!!!!

Oni Jazar said:
I have an iPhone and I'm happy with an iPhone. Why the hell would I want another phone? I don't believe for a second that Sony's OS software could even come close to matching Apple's (Safari, iPod, etc). The PSP media player doesn't even have a random play all and the system has been out for how many years now?

Second, making it a smartphone instead of a gaming system adds a monthly charge to the system. People bitch about $250 but are prepared to spend $100+ a month for a smartphone. That expensive monthly price keeps it out of reach from pretty much all kids limiting the userbase to over 20 year-olds when right now the largest PSP market is young teens.

First of all, Sony can offer 3G only for an optional monthly fee. There are many ways around this, but NONE if your design is gimped from the start, as the Go is. Look at the iPod touch, for example. Same hardware, different configuration from iPhone. There's one option.

Second, your point about the CURRENT PsP demographic is moot when the ENTIRE point of this new PsP would be to expand its audience.

Third, the OS on PsP is perfectly functional, is continually tweaked, and if your argument is that it shouldn't release unless it can match iPhone, then we'd have so very few devices out right now, because really, how many of those compete with the iPhone OS? We are gamers here, and the gaming functionality on PsP is still light years ahead of what is offered on the iPhone, though even that advantage is quickly fading while Sony twiddles their thumb and offers nothing but an embarassingly incremental (if that) stopgap for $250.
 
VanMardigan said:
First of all, Sony can offer 3G only for an optional monthly fee. There are many ways around this, but NONE if your design is gimped from the start, as the Go is. Look at the iPod touch, for example. Same hardware, different configuration from iPhone. There's one option.

Second, your point about the CURRENT PsP demographic is moot when the ENTIRE point of this new PsP would be to expand its audience.

Third, the OS on PsP is perfectly functional, is continually tweaked, and if your argument is that it shouldn't release unless it can match iPhone, then we'd have so very few devices out right now, because really, how many of those compete with the iPhone OS? We are gamers here, and the gaming functionality on PsP is still light years ahead of what is offered on the iPhone, though even that advantage is quickly fading while Sony twiddles their thumb and offers nothing but an embarassingly incremental (if that) stopgap for $250.

you make as if adding cellphone functionality (actually, smartphone funtionality) to the PSP is an easy thing.

You also assume that finding a carrier to subsidize it would also be an easy thing.
 
Tideas said:
you make as if adding cellphone functionality (actually, smartphone funtionality) to the PSP is an easy thing.

You also assume that finding a carrier to subsidize it would also be an easy thing.

Who said anything about easy? Do you think building the iPhone was easy for Apple? For that matter, do you think the original PsP, which was so damn revolutionary in terms of hardware at the time of its release, was easy to build?

Heck, the hardware is STILL very much at the top end at what it does here in 2009, so adding cell phone capabilities, while definitely more difficult than what they did with Go, is not in any way unattainable for Sony, a company that already has cell phone partnerships. Taking the easy route is not going to cut it, and that is what the PsP Go represents.
 
VanMardigan said:
A $250 stopgap. Thank you Sony. How much would we be drooling right now if Sony had announced a PsPhone with a touchscreen? Subsidized 16GB at $199, 32GB $299 with a two year contract at all the major cell phone companies. I'd drop my iPhone in a second for the better gaming capabilities.

I keep saying it, but it's such a missed opportunity. Same with MS and their Zune HD. Slap on a damn cell phone to that unit, you idiots!! Even beyond the convenience of having an all in one device, you get the freedom of wireless data from just about anywhere. It almost makes TOO MUCH sense for these two huge, slow, lumbering companies that are slowly getting eaten alive by smarter, leaner opponents.

I don't want my game system tied to a cellular contract personally. I'm pretty impressed they're doing bluetooth tethering with the Go.
 
Gamecocks625 said:
It must be the lighting because in these pics the white looks...well...white.

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Confirmed. White is what I'm getting. Doesn't look too sparkly, and it's so sexy and beautiful.

I hope that they enable folder making on the PSP firmware so that I can have it like my PS3: Separated into PS1 games, PSN games, Demos, Betas, PSP games, etc, not just all dumped into the XMB or into a folder.
 
ShinoguTakeruKoeru said:
Hello Pandora solution.

The only relevant game this really affects is Lumines right?
no, it can affect any game that uses music that isn't in-house, which can mean many sports and racing games. of course, that's just the most likely reason, not the only reason. several of other things can be the cause.

theBishop said:
What if it was a UMD ripping app you download to the PSP, and it applies some DRM unique to your PSN account? And hell, maybe you have to pay $2 for each rip?
$2 for a digital version of the game? craigslist swap meets and psp pirate parties would be huge.

a trade-in would be the only thing that would be hard to abuse.
 
DMeisterJ said:
Confirmed. White is what I'm getting. Doesn't look too sparkly, and it's so sexy and beautiful.

I hope that they enable folder making on the PSP firmware so that I can have it like my PS3: Separated into PS1 games, PSN games, Demos, Betas, PSP games, etc, not just all dumped into the XMB or into a folder.


Yea, I'm hoping that it ISN'T too sparkly. I might even just order the black, then look and see if I can find a white on display somewhere to trade for, in a store.

Either way, though, I have a feeling that the lighting affords for a less sparkly look. I mean, Sony would downplay sparkle since they have control of the setup/lighting, wouldn't they?

I'm just too worried about it, so I'll stick w/ the black until I see otherwise in person. Good luck w/ the white though!
 
We all need to stop talking about a PSPhone like it's a good idea. It's not. It's a terrible idea and you should feel bad for even mentioning it.

EDIT: I mean seriously, PlayStation Phone. Jesus.
 
edgefusion said:
We all need to stop talking about a PSPhone like it's a good idea. It's not. It's a terrible idea and you should feel bad for even mentioning it.

EDIT: I mean seriously, PlayStation Phone. Jesus.
Yea wtf people. and while we're at it lets stop adding shitty pixelated cameras to phones too. call me old fashioned but i use a phone to call people, not to send them pictures of my wang(which is the only thing these shit cameras are good for!!!)
 
FuzzyDunlop said:
Yea wtf people. and while we're at it lets stop adding shitty pixelated cameras to phones too. call me old fashioned but i use a phone to call people, not to send them pictures of my wang(which is the only thing these shit cameras are good for!!!)
But how else would I take pictures of my cat?
 
edgefusion said:
We all need to stop talking about a PSPhone like it's a good idea. It's not. It's a terrible idea and you should feel bad for even mentioning it.

EDIT: I mean seriously, PlayStation Phone. Jesus.
Amen.

I have a Jesus phone, and if there was a PSP Phone or PlayStation Phone, I would not buy it. And there would be tons of people in the same boat.
 
I have a question about the memory stick micro format. I want to pick up a 16gb M2 card but I see two options: one seems to be a regular m2 card and the other is a 'mobile ultra' m2 card. I assume the PSPgo is compatible with both memory stick micro cards but the 'moble ultra' has a quicker transfer rate, correct?
 
Gamecocks625 said:
I have a question about the memory stick micro format. I want to pick up a 16gb M2 card but I see two options: one seems to be a regular m2 card and the other is a 'mobile ultra' m2 card. I assume the PSPgo is compatible with both memory stick micro cards but the 'moble ultra' has a quicker transfer rate, correct?
The question is whether PSP go will support that level of transfer rate or not.
 
This might be relevant to the current discussion:

Sony assembling PSP phone team - Report

* By Tom Magrino, GameSpot
* Posted Jun 29, 2009 2:55 pm PT

Japanese daily Nikkei says product-development team from gaming, mobile phone arms of electronics firm may begin work on new device as early as July.

In early 2008, Sony Computer Entertainment announced a deal with voice-over-IP service provider Skype that would introduce a mobile-phone component to all models of the PSP past its original iteration. The move by and large quelled rampant speculation that Sony was prepping a redesign of the handheld that would include native mobile-phone functionality.

This weekend, though, saw a resurgence of that speculation. On Saturday, Japanese business newspaper Nikkei reported that Sony plans to assemble a product-development team tasked with combining the PSP's game-playing functionality with Sony Ericsson's mobile phone technology, Reuters reports. According to the report, the development team may be assembled as early as July.

Full story here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6212711.html
 
jgkspsx said:
But we agree that price and battery are both poor decisions on Sony's part.
If last 2 years of handhelds/phones have shown anything, it's that consumers don't give a shit about replacing-batteries, even when battery life of said device is just barely over 1hour.

VanMardigan said:
How much would we be drooling right now if Sony had announced a PsPhone with a touchscreen?
It seems sensible from market perspective - but for me personally I wouldn't see the point. Though touch screen might be nice to have for applications with the thing closed (not so much for games).
 
Fafalada said:
If last 2 years of handhelds/phones have shown anything, it's that consumers don't give a shit about replacing-batteries, even when battery life of said device is just barely over 1hour.

Yep, damn consumers-as-a-whole screwing over those of us who are NOT stupid...

If only the general public were smarter, we'd have GOOD PRODUCTS these days...
 
Okay, so it looks alright. Still doesn't seem as bright white as I would like, but it will do.

If I'm playing PSP for over 4 hours without being near a power outlet. WTF am I dong?
 
Dice said:
Okay, so it looks alright. Still doesn't seem as bright white as I would like, but it will do.

If I'm playing PSP for over 4 hours without being near a power outlet. WTF am I dong?

Flying?
 
Oni Jazar said:
My 4Gb stick is getting waaay too cramped lately and I didn't want to buy a bigger one that could be useless if I ever get a PSP Go. So i picked up one of these:

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and one of these

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Hopefully it'll all work out.

Got these guys in the mail yesterday and everything works great. I'm futureproof!
 
anyone know how the whisper net stuff on the Kindle works out?

I think a service like that where you're always connected to the internet, even if it's just to send and receive text, without relying on wi-fi or expensive cellphone plans is a lot more appealing than a PSP phone.
 
Linkzg said:
anyone know how the whisper net stuff on the Kindle works out?

I think a service like that where you're always connected to the internet, even if it's just to send and receive text, without relying on wi-fi or expensive cellphone plans is a lot more appealing than a PSP phone.

its over cellphone network... difference is that one book is 300kb-1 MB in size and takes you few weeks to read, vs 400-2000 MB games, music, videos...
 
The accessories are starting to pop up on Amazon, namely the screen protectors, cradle, memory sticks (2gb and 4gb), and av cables. I'm still waiting for the pouch to show up as that's really the only accessory I want (besides the 16gb sandisk memory stick micro I just ordered).
 
Gamecocks625 said:
The accessories are starting to pop up on Amazon, namely the screen protectors, cradle, memory sticks (2gb and 4gb), and av cables. I'm still waiting for the pouch to show up as that's really the only accessory I want (besides the 16gb sandisk memory stick micro I just ordered).
I really hope it comes with a pouch, just like the original PSP. I still use that thing, and its amazing.
 
spwolf said:
its over cellphone network... difference is that one book is 300kb-1 MB in size and takes you few weeks to read, vs 400-2000 MB games, music, videos...

Sprint has been talking to electronics companies for several months now, offering their network space. Sprint has the most unused capacity of any wireless provider, and desperately needs revenue. You should start seeing devices using it in 2010.

Sprint also takes a percentage of any book purchased over whisper net. We are still a few years away from seeing major handhelds using this model. Maybe for PSP2 though. :)
 
spwolf said:
its over cellphone network... difference is that one book is 300kb-1 MB in size and takes you few weeks to read, vs 400-2000 MB games, music, videos...

I don't mean for it to download games. I mean, 3G is fast, but I don't expect people to download or play games through it (thought, that one iphone fps is supposed to).

Instead of a complete cellphone, have the whisper net stuff for basic texting, twitter, news, etc. Let it do all that stuff without requiring an expensive plan like the iPhone does. If you want to call someone, download a game or play online, you need a wi-fi spot. But basic text and stuff can be done anywhere.
 
Think there will be a UMD drive docking station at some point so people who want this and don't want 2 PSPs can use their UMDs at home at least? I've only got like 10 UMDs or so but seriously.. those are the games I bought the system for originally.
 
DMeisterJ said:
Oh yeah! Awesome! The speed upgrade will be very nice. I imagine it will be clocked at 333 for older games, but it could still utilize the added processing power to speed up game loads right? Kind of how the 3Gs does for the 3G?

i would venture out and say it will be used for apps and other things, but who knows.
Few minutes ago we though PSP Go! is exactly the same and some thought it should be priced cheaper than PSP-3000.... look at us now. :D
 
Dice said:
Processor overhead for XMB.

Yeah, that's what I imagined too. Would definitely help out on that front. That and the fact that the other 32mb of RAM is not used for UMD caching anymore will help the XMB 'in-game' be very good.

I will still hope for a speed upgrade of using the PS applications and games though.
 
DMeisterJ said:
Confirmed. White is what I'm getting. Doesn't look too sparkly, and it's so sexy and beautiful.

Looks like you made a good decision

http://www.rpgamer.com/news/currents/2009/column/em070309.html
I also tried out the white PSP Go behind closed doors. Since it was in private, I was able to play with the sliding mechanism and got a real feel for the weight of the handheld. I have to say that it felt even better to use without a huge metal brace attached to it to prevent theft. It was incredibly light, and the slider felt very smooth and automatic. Oh, and if you were wondering, the white PSP is actually the sexy one. The color is so vibrant that it really makes the Go stand out. I should also probably mention that during all of my hands-on time, I never noticed once that the screen is slightly smaller than the current PSP.
 
VanMardigan said:
A $250 stopgap. Thank you Sony. How much would we be drooling right now if Sony had announced a PsPhone with a touchscreen? Subsidized 16GB at $199, 32GB $299 with a two year contract at all the major cell phone companies. I'd drop my iPhone in a second for the better gaming capabilities.

I keep saying it, but it's such a missed opportunity. Same with MS and their Zune HD. Slap on a damn cell phone to that unit, you idiots!! Even beyond the convenience of having an all in one device, you get the freedom of wireless data from just about anywhere. It almost makes TOO MUCH sense for these two huge, slow, lumbering companies that are slowly getting eaten alive by smarter, leaner opponents.
Dont ever run a company please.
 
magash said:
That is wrong...it has been confirmed to be not the case
Of course it's wrong. His tag is prophetic. (He posted that rumor to the thread days before SCE clarified the 480MHz spec.)
 
What about imports? I mean, if they have a way to make your collection of umds useful on the go - then great. But what if you have a couple of Japanese imports? Will they let you transfer them, or are you essentially stuck?

Here is a big one, what if you buy a Japanese one for a color you want? Will they be able to access the us store? Or can you do that now with regular psps? I'm so fucking clueless, thanks Sony............ :D
 
KeioSquad2 said:
What about imports? I mean, if they have a way to make your collection of umds useful on the go - then great. But what if you have a couple of Japanese imports? Will they let you transfer them, or are you essentially stuck?

Here is a big one, what if you buy a Japanese one for a color you want? Will they be able to access the us store? Or can you do that now with regular psps? I'm so fucking clueless, thanks Sony............ :D
You can probably do what we do now to get into the Japanese store, by creating a Japan PSN account.
 
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