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[Instigator]

Purely a hardware discussion, nothing to do with software. Which one you feel made a more worthwhile contribution to the world of portables? In an effort of concision, I've made a quick summary of innovations for both:

1. DS:

- Introduced a second screen.

- In relation to the second screen, DS obviously boasts touch and pen control, something brought over for the first time to portable gaming machines.


2. PSP:

- First portable in over 10 years to try to catch up to current console tech (though still lagging behind a bit)

- More importantly, first portable to really aspire to be more than a gaming machine which explains key features like the widescreen LCD, the optical storage media and large capacity memory cards but are still useful to gaming.

Have fun, guys.

 

[cvxfreak]

The DS by far. PSP experiences haven't been new except for their portability.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

*shakes head*

 

[COCKLES]

 

[CoolTrick]

In before "but the DS is not the first handheld to use a touch screen".

 

[sprsk]

obviously the real innovation has come from tiger's game.com

 

[Yusaku]

This is not a good thread.

 

[levious]

PSP introduced memory cards to portable gaming!

 

[belgurdo]

This is not a good thread.

This is now the lemon and tomato thread

 

[imastalker co.]

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[olimario]

But really, the DS.
The PSP offers console experiences on the go. A game like Nintendogs can't really be done on a console, at least not las well as its done on the DS.

 

[Spazbiohaz]

PSP = Ports (- Lummines)
DS = New Gamplay (- SM64)

DS>PSP

Another edge that DS has is Single Cart Multiplayer. PSP offers nothing in terms as a gaming system. As for Movies, it's the coolest portable Movie/Music player that barely fits in ones pocket.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

 

[Instigator]

Post all the pictures you want, that type of topic is irresistible to most. Gamers never tire of arguing about brand rivalries and 'innovation'.

It's a winner and you know it!

 

[Zer0]

But really, the DS.
The PSP offers console experiences on the go. A game like Nintendogs can't really be done on a console, at least not las well as its done on the DS.

why nintendogs cant be done on psp? just for the stylus?i dont think so

 

[Spazbiohaz]

why nintendogs cant be done on psp? just for the stylus?i don't think so

Play the game. You must have a stylus, the life like feeling would disappear if it was gone. Also, using the analog stick on the PSP as a mouse/stylus would suck. I mean you remember Discworld with a D-pad right? Great game but, control was painful.

 

[polg]

it has been a long time since the last PSP vs DS thread...

oh, hang on... we have the Japenese Daily charts! :lol

and yes... this thread need more fruit

 

[argon]

why nintendogs cant be done on psp? just for the stylus?i dont think so

Microphone?

 

[olimario]

why nintendogs cant be done on psp? just for the stylus?i dont think so

The stylus and the voice recognition. Nintendogs would be nothing without either of those.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

PSP has single-disc multiplayer, too-- just not as much of it.

 

[Instigator]

Seaman...

 

[snatches]

My PSP and DS are both getting a lot of use and if they have good games to play on them then it doesn't matter which one has the bigger balls, now does it.

SHEESH.

 

[kenta]

You seriously created a thread specifically for a flame war?

 

[Instigator]

I did want to create a topic with lots of replies. Doesn't everyone? I know the subject matter can be explosive, but it's not like I've provoked anyone. And I'm curious to know which hardware features people find more important.

I do find it interesting conversation has already shifted to software.

 

[olimario]

neither are very Innovative, but at least Psp has a generation leap in Gfx. innovation is over rated. sometimes i just want more of what i Like, only prettier and smoother and with better control. im not sure if a touch Screen is really better control, just different.

what i really Want as a consumer is Psp graphics and Ds load times and a better dpad or analog solution then either one Gives me. i dont want 2 screens or touch screens or weird Nubs or mp3s or disc Media.

the Psp could do voice Recog if they included a cheap mic with the Software, its definitely going to be better at it.

THe thing with the DS is that I can get the experiences I loved from a handheld with the Dpad, shoulder buttons, and 4 face buttons while getting new gaming experiences with the 2 screens, the touch screen, and the mic.

 

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[monchi-kun]

DS

 

[olimario]

yes and you get it in ancient 3d or 2d in a gba-quality resolution. thanks but no Thanks.

You want current console experiences on your handheld. The DS is the upgrade for people who enjoyed GBA experiences.

 

[Kai Dracon]

In before owls -- damn.

 

[olimario]

you cna still enjoy Gba expereinces with a Gba

last i checked they even have a new Model out

It's the next step for those of us who enjoyed the GBA. Touch screen, dual screen, better graphics, and a mic add a lot to those experiences.... the ones that arent all about GRAPHICS and RESOLUTION.

 

[ejdonk]

So.... the psp is portable?

 

[TheDiave]

The DS by far. PSP experiences haven't been new except for their portability.

IAWTP.

 

[BDGAME]

Lets compare:

NDS

- 2 screens
- Microphone
- Touch Screen
- Blue touch
- Internal chat
- 2 games slots (GBA and NDS)
- Stereo sound


PSP
- Wide Screen
- Mini DVD
- Analog control
- Features like sound, image and videos
- Memory card for saves
- Possibility of updates in your operational system
- Blue Touch
- Stereo Sound

For what I see, PSP has the more innovative hardware, but just a little of this innovations can bring really new possibilities for a new gameplay. DS in otherwise, has basically all your features with possibilities for interact and bring new gameplays.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

I know it goes against acceptable GAF wisdom, but I honestly think the PSP is more innovative. It's a high end gaming machine, looking to bridge the gap between a market of older gamers and gadget buyers. To that end it's tried to offer the capabilities of many devices with some impressive technology behind it. It's probably going to bring a lot of issues of piracy and control of platform to the forefront as well.

I've had other devices that had touch screen support, just none that were supported by as good a software supplier as Nintendo.

My opinon of this is totally seperate from what I think of the games offered or long term success.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

It's funny how "innovative" was never a quality of measure of handhelds until the PSP came out.

 

[Mejilan]

better Gfx? mic? i dont see any real leap over the Gba except in the area of first Gen 3d which isnt a win. the mic is inapproprite for a Handheld, but i guess thats a matter of Taste.

What a tool. Nintendogs rocks thanks, in part, to the mic. Loads more opportunities there, as well. And the DS smokes the GBA in 3D, 2D, f-cking everything.

 

[terrene]

I think the punishment for creating threads like this should be as follows:

1. Thread starter is deprived of food for a week

2. On day 8, a large breakfast is placed in the same room as the thread starter. There will be pancakes. They will be delicious. However, the breakfast is surrounded by 2 huge, muscular dudes carrying baseball bats.

3. The guards ask the thread starter which one of them is the prettiest.

4. The one who is not picked gets to beat the thread starter with their bat until they are unconscious.

5. The thread starter can eat the pancakes when they wake up.

 

[Instigator]

Punish? I should be rewarded. All the threads that are derailed by brand bickering, I offer at least one topic where the bickering is allowed. Hopefully, those people will shoot their load here, get it out of their system and leave the other threads in peace.

Now there really ought to be something done with just posting images, especially tired ones. It's as bad as catchphrases. Some people really don't know when the joke is over. These people are destined to work for Fox and keep the Simpsons running for another decade.

 

[mj1108]

Punish? I should be rewarded. All the threads that are derailed by brand bickering, I offer at least one topic where the bickering is allowed. Hopefully, those people will shoot their load here, get it out of their system and leave the other threads in peace.

Now there really ought to be something done with just posting images, especially tired ones. It's as bad as catchphrases. Some people really don't know when the joke is over. These people are destined to work for Fox and keep the Simpsons running for another decade.

You really need to be banned. Especially for starting a thread like this and ending it with "Have fun, guys". If that doesn't speak "I'm purposely trying to start a flamefest", I don't know what does.

 

[Stench]

Now there really ought to be something done with just posting images, especially tired ones. It's as bad as catchphrases. Some people really don't know when the joke is over. These people are destined to work for Fox and keep the Simpsons running for another decade.

Wait, you start a retarded thread and you act as if you're above the owls?

What the fuck?

 

[PlayStation Tree]

Innovation is the implementation of a new or significantly improved idea, good, service, process or practice which is intended to be useful.

Isn't the PSP really just a modern Turbo Express or Game Gear? The technology in the hardware may be on the cutting edge, but the idea to create a handheld using the best technology (at the time it was released) has been done before.

I guess the analog nub and optical media of the PSP are innovative, though the consensus seems to be that those innovations are not universally liked. Innovation, by it's definition, doesn't have to be good.

 

[kaching]

You really need to be banned. Especially for starting a thread like this and ending it with "Have fun, guys". If that doesn't speak "I'm purposely trying to start a flamefest", I don't know what does.

I'll take this over your low-grade heckling of the PSP in quite a few DS/PSP threads. This doesn't have to become a flamefest on the basis of the question he asked - that's determined solely by the maturity of the participants.

 

[6.8]

DS && PSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This thread

 

[Instigator]

I could post the next NDP figures and say 'have fun, guys.'

Bottomline, I didn't derail anything, insult anyone or make any utterly controversial statement that could provoke some overly sensitive folks. This is a legitimate topic. Mine. If you don't like it then have fun elsewhere. No one forced you here.

P.S. The owls pollute the entire forum and are hard to avoid. It's an old and bad joke from another forum, it's not funny yet it is repeated ad nauseum. Yes, I am above the stupid owls.

 

[terrene]

Punish? I should be rewarded. All the threads that are derailed by brand bickering, I offer at least one topic where the bickering is allowed. Hopefully, those people will shoot their load here, get it out of their system and leave the other threads in peace.

Now there really ought to be something done with just posting images, especially tired ones. It's as bad as catchphrases. Some people really don't know when the joke is over. These people are destined to work for Fox and keep the Simpsons running for another decade.

I like your posts usually, but come on. A whole thread dedicated to brand bickering?

 

[mj1108]

I'll take this over your low-grade heckling of the PSP in quite a few DS/PSP threads. This doesn't have to become a flamefest on the basis of the question he asked - that's determined solely by the maturity of the participants.

Mine is just tongue-in-cheek. I don't really mean anything by it. PSP is a great little system.

 

[Vandiger]

Punish? I should be rewarded. All the threads that are derailed by brand bickering, I offer at least one topic where the bickering is allowed. Hopefully, those people will shoot their load here, get it out of their system and leave the other threads in peace.

Now there really ought to be something done with just posting images, especially tired ones. It's as bad as catchphrases. Some people really don't know when the joke is over. These people are destined to work for Fox and keep the Simpsons running for another decade.

Whatever this is like a normal Gamefaqs BS topic. You like this type of shit fine but don't complain if someone starts thread crapping with off-topic posts or played out pictures just like your stupid "persona".

 

[KINGMOKU]

My PSP will NEVER see another game. I'm going to be hooking it up, and useing it as a movie player in my new convertable.

Pics when I'm done with the install.

 

[Instigator]

I like your posts usually, but come on. A whole thread dedicated to brand bickering?

Well, I've already admitted the potential for a flame war was high, but if this were another forum, the discussion could talk place with civility easily. As another poster pointed out, the bickering really depends on the participants.

Now to return to the topic at hand, I believe the PSP is more innovative as the hardware features it introduces (large screen, memory cards and optical media) are more likely to become the new norm in the future of portables. Innovation are pointless if they die with the system that introduced them.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Purely a hardware discussion, nothing to do with software. Which one you feel made a more worthwhile contribution to the world of portables? In an effort of concision, I've made a quick summary of innovations for both:

1. DS:

- Introduced a second screen.

- In relation to the second screen, DS obviously boasts touch and pen control, something brought over for the first time to portable gaming machines.


2. PSP:

- First portable in over 10 years to try to catch up to current console tech (though still lagging behind a bit)

- More importantly, first portable to really aspire to be more than a gaming machine which explains key features like the widescreen LCD, the optical storage media and large capacity memory cards but are still useful to gaming.

Have fun, guys.

So now the use of memory cards is innovation.

:lol