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[Amir0x]

"It's a great game. Screw the fact that it isn't super flashy in graphics, the game is FUN (and its music rules)"

I think its bland and overrated personally, plus you can play a java version of the game online for free .

Are you really suggesting that the horrific java version is at all a decent indication of what to expect from Lumines? I'm just trying to fathom that line of thinking and what it takes to come to such an absurd conclusion.

I think it's safe to assume Lumines IS a great game and that most people agree with that assessment. Unless you truly made your decision on its quality based on a super bad version of the title on Java... to which I say :lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

"It's a great game. Screw the fact that it isn't super flashy in graphics, the game is FUN (and its music rules)"

I think its bland and overrated personally, plus you can play a java version of the game online for free .

Serious question-- where? I would love to test-drive.

 

[Soul4ger]

Overrated? Yes. Bland? Not exactly. The game definitely has character, and great presentation quality. It's just not something I can see playing for more than a couple weeks, for bursts at a time. I hope I'm wrong though. To be fair, I've only briefly played it. Didn't seem like it was worth $50. It's easier to swallow at $40. Should've been $30.

 

[Bristow]

I own four NDS games: Mario 64, Feel the Magic, Wario, and Yoshi and there's nothing else on the system that interests me until Metroid.

There's alot of good DS games coming out between now and Metroid's release.

 

[Amir0x]

I should have worded it differently. I meant you could play Fusion and Black on PS2 which look better and most likely play alot better on the PS2's Dualshock controller. Yes, I understand they are new games in the series and are portable, but they aren't games that scream originality and make you want to put down $250 on a new system.

People are going nuts like they are completely new games that we haven't already been playing for 4 years. Again, I'm not trying to say someone shouldn't be excited for these particular games, but they don't exactly warrant a 'best launch lineup' ever IMO.

Good ol' reviewer recently summed up the truth about the issue perfectly, and it just so happens to fit this scenario well.

My favorite thing about [Title] is that it reminded me why I like to play games. Many developers spend the bulk of their energy coming up with ways to make their games different, to do something innovative. But that's the wrong focus. The bulk of your energy should be focused on making the game good. Who cares if you've provided me with a new move that no gaming character has ever executed before if it's wrapped up in crappy gameplay and a half-assed story? People do not play games because they break new ground. People play games because they are fun. And fun is [Title]'s greatest strength.

And this is what the good PSP games do. They are FUN, and it's not because of any asserted originality.

 

[sonycowboy]

PSP's launch line-up is rivaling the DC's for best of all time, so some of the post-launch drought can be forgiven, but good god... I was looking at release dates, and there's virtually NOTHING of merit coming out May through all summer.

Advent Shadow isn't until August... GTA is rumored for summer. Death Jr. is spring and Hot Shots Golf is June. Thats literally everything post-launch worth paying attention to until fall.

Still, with at least 6 good, quality launch opions depending on your taste, the drought it easily forgiven. It'll still be interesting to see if the PSP is still selling out in June without any big software to push it...

That's every launch of every system ever released. Look at the 4-5 months once:

1) The PS2 launched
2) The GBA launched
3) The GCN launched
4) The Xbox launched
5) The DS launched.

There is a certain pattern here, no?

Only the PSP has alot of great titles vs just a couple. I think the PSP is in a slightly better place given that we'll be hitting the fall and get a new wave of content much sooner than most systems did at that point in their lives.

Also, as you've said we've got a good number of titles that will be released after the launch window with Hot Shots Golf, GTA, Midnight Club, & Death Junior.

E3 should be very interesting for the PSP and I think Sony's going to look both good and bad. Good because their going to

a) Show the PS3 for the first time and it will be impressive with some tech demos and a TON of 3rd party promises

b) Show a tremendous fall PS2 lineup with SOCOM 3, FFXII, DW VIII, Black, RE4, and most likely a buttload of not-yet announced games.

c) Show the PSP lineup. Ubi has already let out that Splinter Cell, Prince of Persia, ; Eidos Tomb Raider; Sony SOCOM, maybe Getaway & probably some platforming goodness; EA another 9 or so titles; etc, etc;

They're going to be spreading themselves THICK, but will probably leave the Xbox360 as being the single most hyped machine as Microsoft is singly and completely focused on it.

 

[Bristow]

My favorite thing about [Title] is that it reminded me why I like to play games. Many developers spend the bulk of their energy coming up with ways to make their games different, to do something innovative. But that's the wrong focus. The bulk of your energy should be focused on making the game good. Who cares if you've provided me with a new move that no gaming character has ever executed before if it's wrapped up in crappy gameplay and a half-assed story? People do not play games because they break new ground. People play games because they are fun. And fun is [Title]'s greatest strength.

I agree to an extent, but when you've been playing video games for the better part of 20 years - the tried and true formula starts to wear a bit thin.

I love video games and will most likely play them for many years to come, but I'm certainly looking for a bit more creativity and innovation in the business. A fresh coat of paint or the addition of multiplayer in a game I've played 50 times over isn't gonna cut it. It's a bit more alluring at a reduced price, but the PSP isn't exactly cheap.

 

[Pedigree Chum]

The problem with the PSP is that there are too many launch titles.

I own four NDS games: Mario 64, Feel the Magic, Wario, and Yoshi and there's nothing else on the system that interests me until Metroid.

Right now on the PSP I own Darkstalkers, Need for Speed Underground Rivals, and THUG2 Remix. On launch day I'll also have Ridge Racer, Wipeout Pure, and Twisted Metal Head On.

That's six launch titles right away and there's more I want.

After launch I plan on picking up Metal Gear AC!D, Lumines, Tiger Woods, MVP Baseball, and NFL Street.

That doesn't count the UMD movies I'm planning on getting or bigger memory sticks.

You = poor total

 

[ManaByte]

c) Show the PSP lineup. Ubi has already let out that Splinter Cell, Prince of Persia, ; Eidos Tomb Raider; Sony SOCOM, maybe Getaway & probably some platforming goodness; EA another 9 or so titles; etc, etc;

Madden is going to be a big system seller on the PSP because people will be able to buy a portable Madden that looks almost as good as the PS2 version with the possibility of online play.

 

[Jagernaut]

I should have worded it differently. I meant you could play Fusion and Black on PS2 which look better and most likely play alot better on the PS2's Dualshock controller. Yes, I understand they are new games in the series and are portable, but they aren't games that scream originality and make you want to put down $250 on a new system.

People are going nuts like they are completely new games that we haven't already been playing for 4 years. Again, I'm not trying to say someone shouldn't be excited for these particular games, but they don't exactly warrant a 'best launch lineup' ever IMO.

Fuck originality, i want fun games. To me, the PSP launch lineup looks like its full of many fun games. What system had a better launch? I can't think of any in the last few generations.

 

[Pedigree Chum]

Overrated? Yes. Bland? Not exactly. The game definitely has character, and great presentation quality. It's just not something I can see playing for more than a couple weeks, for bursts at a time. I hope I'm wrong though. To be fair, I've only briefly played it. Didn't seem like it was worth $50. It's easier to swallow at $40. Should've been $30.

Dude trust me, this game has legs. I've had it for 2 months and still play it regularily. Between challenge mode, puzzle mode and vr. CPU. There's a lot of stuff to do, and it's a ton of fun. Over time (if you give it a week or so of good play time) you learn some advanced techniques that really get you into the 'zone'...almost like a sixth sense for dropping pieces in the appropriate places. It's such an amazing game, but it effect isn't immediate...it has a slow burn quality to it.

 

[Amir0x]

I agree to an extent, but when you've been playing video games for the better part of 20 years - the tried and true formula starts to wear a bit thin.

I love video games and will most likely play them for many years to come, but I'm certainly looking for a bit more creativity and innovation in the business. A fresh coat of paint or the addition of multiplayer in a game I've played 50 times over isn't gonna cut it. It's a bit more alluring at a reduced price, but the PSP isn't exactly cheap.

I've been playing videogames for 20 years as well. I like original titles. But you know what I like more than original titles? Quality titles. If an original title is also quality, more for it. But there's a danger line, and it is this. Just because you make something innovative and original does not mean that "innovation" is good. It's something to remember, because it seems more like the eternal quest just to be different rather than the eternal quest to make something genuinely good. Just my two cents.


Anyway, 24.

 

[The End]

I'd imagine there are plenty of PSP and DS games being held back for an E3 debut. Let's not get too worried about either.

PoP PSP and SC PSP are just the tip of the iceberg. Many publishers plan to announce full support for the PSP at E3.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Anyway, 24.

not to derail or sound insulting, but at ~31 posts a day, I hope you get out more than I assume you do. I love videogames, grew up on them, etc, but at 21, I don't just sit in front of my tv and computer playing/talking about videogames all day. It's a great time to be a gamer for sure, but I love to play baseball, jog and go out frequently.

I'm not sure what my point is, but I just see you in every thread and finally checked your profile and was blown away by how much you post. Doesn't really effect me, so by all means do what you please, but damn.

 

[Bristow]

not to derail or sound insulting, but at ~31 posts a day, I hope you get out more than I assume you do.

Funny how you managed to do exactly that. I'm all for more posts by Amir0x a day (from whom I've seen to be a good poster on these boards) than I am from trolls who make pointless posts.

 

[aoi tsuki]

more liek for 110 dollars.

i was referring to the current price of in stock sticks. Thats the price of the 1GB off of SonyStyle. Trust me, i know the usual price, and i was tempted to jump on it, but i don't have a use for PSP video or audio at the moment. i'll wait until the 2GB MS Duos hit, so the price of the 1GB will drop.

 

[Amir0x]

not to derail or sound insulting, but at ~31 posts a day, I hope you get out more than I assume you do. I love videogames, grew up on them, etc, but at 21, I don't just sit in front of my tv and computer playing/talking about videogames all day. It's a great time to be a gamer for sure, but I love to play baseball, jog and go out frequently.

I'm not sure what my point is, but I just see you in every thread and finally checked your profile and was blown away by how much you post. Doesn't really effect me, so by all means do what you please, but damn.

I'm a geek. Duh. But I'm by no means introverted if that is what you're implying. GAF is just my current drug

 

[Guy LeDouche]

I'm a geek. Duh. But I'm by no means introverted if that is what you're implying. GAF is just my current drug

like I said, it's totally cool, I'm not one to judge. Didn't mean any harm, despite what dickweed a few posts above decided he needed to interject with.


I admire your dedication to something you obviously love

e: [/end derail] back to PSP discussion. why is it not Thursday? It's going to be a long fucking time before I feel the burn of a slow post-launch release calendar. I'll be playing Tiger Woods until GTA comes out, easily.

 

[djtiesto]

Based on the tba lineup, the DS has much more for me (Lunar, Another Code, Seiken Densetsu, Slime Morimori, Vandal Hearts, Baten Kaitos, Xenosaga, Egg Monster Heroes, and the almighty FF3j) but I'll probably get more play out of my PSP (with Lumines and Wipeout) than my DS the next few months (which I now use to play GBA games and the occasional round of Yoshi's Touch & Go)... Ys would be awesome to have portable, although I already have it for PS2 I also already have Tales of Eternia, though a re-dub and some new content could be enticing. Can't wait to see some more RPGs for PSP, any news if that Gahgrev game is coming to the US?

 

[Amir0x]

like I said, it's totally cool, I'm not one to judge. Didn't mean any harm, despite what dickweed a few posts above decided he needed to interject with. I admire your dedication to something you obviously love

I'm the first to admit I spend too much time online so it doesn't offend me so don't worry. The story, without getting too deep into it, is that my friends are all druggies and I stopped using drugs around two years ago. But because my main two friends also happen to be my roommates and the other friends I used to hang out with are still hardcore into that world it's hard to get away from it so I try to focus my attention on other aspects right now like my job and responsibilities and, ya know, my hobbies (movies and games).

[/end derail] back to PSP discussion. why is it not Thursday? It's going to be a long fucking time before I feel the burn of a slow post-launch release calendar. I'll be playing Tiger Woods until GTA comes out, easily.

This whole week is insane. Shit, this whole year has been insane so far.

 

[drohne]

did hideo kojima say video games were basically an ephemeral medium? a now medium? i think he's right. we're missing the point of games if we judge them on how well they age. who knows what we'll think about the psp launch software in a few years. it's amazing now. i think lumines, ridge racers, wipeout pure, and mingol portable are all pretty great, but they could easily be superceded by sequels or better technology. and i don't think that would really diminish them as games.

 

[gutter_trash]

having a fighting game right off the bat on the line-up is a plus for me on the PSP.
Also two awesome arcade styled racers like Ridge Racer and WipeOut Pure as sold me for Thursday

Darkstalkers is Capcom's "test" on the PSP to see how fighters handle on it.

i respect alot of gamers' different tastes, but I feel that the RPG take over of the GBA has made me completely turn off away from the GBA in the past two years.

PSP will fill the void for my arcade/action lust

 

[MattKeil]

I really don't understand the "BEST LUNCH EVAR!" comments about PSP. It's a bunch of sequels/ports/remakes/sports games and one truly original game that no one will buy... Lumines.

I guess if you think a system launch is great because it has a whole lot of the familiar, then it's like the awesomest thing evar. But for me, there's only one truly compelling reason to buy it.

Amen. I'm buying Lumines at launch, but I'll wait until real games are out before I drop the $200+ on the system itself. Sequels and remakes can be cool when they're improvements on their predecessors. The PSP launch lineup is like getting a bunch of Dreamcast versions of games I already own superior versions of on the PS2 and Xbox.

Plus, I know better by now than to buy Sony hardware at launch. Always wait until they change the color of the box. That means they fixed something.

 

[krypt0nian]

I've been playing videogames for 20 years as well. I like original titles. But you know what I like more than original titles? Quality titles. If an original title is also quality, more for it. But there's a danger line, and it is this. Just because you make something innovative and original does not mean that "innovation" is good. It's something to remember, because it seems more like the eternal quest just to be different rather than the eternal quest to make something genuinely good. Just my two cents.

And now my love for you has grown. Perfect wording.

 

[ManaByte]

Amen. I'm buying Lumines at launch, but I'll wait until real games are out before I drop the $200+ on the system itself. Sequels and remakes can be cool when they're improvements on their predecessors.

Ridge Racer blows away the horse shit that was R: Racing Evolution and probably is better than Ridge Racer V.

I think everyone can agree that Wipeout Pure is an improvement over Fusion.

And it's debatable, but some people may see TM: Head On and it's more TM2 gameplay an improvement over Black.

 

[Amir0x]

And now my love for you has grown. Perfect wording.

*b*

 

[kaching]

I mentioned being a little concerned about how the post-launch period was shaping up for the PSP a couple of times several weeks ago when all we knew about the launch lineup was the list of games. But now that we know that the launch 'day' 24 are really the launch period 24 (making it a little more staggered) and now that reviews and impressions have identified that at least a quarter of that lineup is good to excellent, I'm not so concerned. That'll give me plenty to play with for a few months between my personal 1st and 2nd tier picks. E3 will be just in time to gauge just how long the drought might be.

As sonycowboy pointed out, this should hardly be surprising for traditionally early adopters...or members of the gaming press *cough*. I'm not surprised that you've already got people selling off their DSes, because it just seems pathological for some people to jump on latest and greatest thing and become completely disenchanted with it as soon as it fails for a second to be the shiny bauble they were first attracted to. I'm sure the same will happen with some of the early PSP owners as well.

 

[Shard]

Nothing could be as bad as the DS's. I had to force myself to finally get Wario Ware (glad I did).

The DS drought is STILL not as bad as the early days of the Nintendo 64.

 

[Tabris]

Nice thing about having 2 handhelds on the market now, is one can suck for releases at one time and it'll be OK cause the other handheld can cover the slack. Back and forth.

Assuming you own both.

 

[jarrod]

I guess you can call F-Zero Maximum Velocity a port too

Plenty of people did actually. And when faced with the fact that it's actually 100% new content (unlike *cough* Ridge Racers btw) the usual response was "eh, it's still practically a SNES game". :/

The DS is so bad this joke won't even fly powered by hate.

Consider the source I was responding to.

 

[chespace]

Amen. I'm buying Lumines at launch, but I'll wait until real games are out before I drop the $200+ on the system itself. Sequels and remakes can be cool when they're improvements on their predecessors. The PSP launch lineup is like getting a bunch of Dreamcast versions of games I already own superior versions of on the PS2 and Xbox.

Plus, I know better by now than to buy Sony hardware at launch. Always wait until they change the color of the box. That means they fixed something.

Just want to add that Metal Gear Ac!d is not a sequel or a remake. It is wonderful, hard as shit, deep as fuck, long as hell, and like nothing else in its genre (turn-based strategy). The localization could be better, but damn, I'm already 25 hours into the game and it just keeps upping the ante.

 

[DarienA]

Just want to add that Metal Gear Ac!d is not a sequel or a remake. It is wonderful, hard as shit, deep as fuck, long as hell, and like nothing else in its genre (turn-based strategy). The localization could be better, but damn, I'm already 25 hours into the game and it just keeps upping the ante.

You really aren't helping my 1 launch title purchase decision any easier...

 

[jarrod]

AC!D's actually my most anticipated PSP launch game. Turn based strategy >>>>>>>>>> stealth.

 

[The End]

Just want to add that Metal Gear Ac!d is not a sequel or a remake. It is wonderful, hard as shit, deep as fuck, long as hell, and like nothing else in its genre (turn-based strategy). The localization could be better, but damn, I'm already 25 hours into the game and it just keeps upping the ante.

damn you.

 

[Catchpenny]

It's a good launch, very good for a portable. I'm just tired of people insisting these games are all AAA titles or something. Lumines, Ridge Racers, Wipeout and Metal Gear Acid are to the PSP what Tekken Tag, Ridge Racer V and SSX were to the PS2. They'll all be remembered as good games, but not classics, and we'll see vastly superior games in a year or two.

If Jarrod's lists hold up, the DS has a nice summer coming up. There are a few promising titles for the PSP, too, and along with the strong launch I doubt people will be crying over a lack of content any time soon.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

This talk of MGA is really really making me want to get it. I may add a fourth game to my list.

This is getting expensive!

 

[jarrod]

I bet most of those DS titles will get pushed back, but doesn't PSP have almost more titles on launch then the DS has coming out in the summer?

What makes you say that exactly? Faith?

 

[Catchpenny]

Are you really suggesting that the horrific java version is at all a decent indication of what to expect from Lumines? I'm just trying to fathom that line of thinking and what it takes to come to such an absurd conclusion.

Yeah, when you haven't had the chance to play the retail version, judging a game by a demo sure is absurd. We should just assume that all demos are useless and not indicative of the game's worth, since it's not like companies use them to encourage purchases or anything.

Really, Lumines sounds like it's an excellent game. You could tell him that, and explain that the demo isn't a fair representation of the final game, without being an ass.

 

[chespace]

AC!D's actually my most anticipated PSP launch game. Turn based strategy >>>>>>>>>> stealth.

The most interesting thing about Ac!d is that it actually, and in some ways, brilliantly combines turn-based strategy AND stealth. Something I've not seen in any game since... well, maybe Jagged Alliance -- and that was a PC title.

 

[Kintaro]

I also think that asking more than $30 for Lumines is fucking insane.

I personally think asking more than $30 on ANY handheld game on ANY damn system is fucking insane.

Course, that's just my minority opinion. Next gen will suck ass for prices. =/

 

[sriyantra]

Sorry, but anyone who says the PSP launch is the 'best ever' needs to get a little perspective.

I was actually thinking it's perhaps the worst launch ever in terms of titles - only behind the 3DO, Jag and other lame attempts at upping the ante.

The fact remains, for me, that SONY has launched what is easily the best piece of hardware since the original PlayStation and there's not one frigging game that I could give a crap about. Hence I'm waiting until there are some games worth playing. And due to the way the industry is these days, I could be a waiting a long time.

Good launches were the PS1 and SFC which had games that took things up a notch. Not just rehashes of crap that's been out there a million times before.

 

[Dilbert]

The fact remains, for me, that SONY has launched what is easily the best piece of hardware since the original PlayStation and there's not one frigging game that I could give a crap about. Hence I'm waiting until there are some games worth playing.

...

Good launches were the PS1 and SFC which had games that took things up a notch. Not just rehashes of crap that's been out there a million times before.

@#%!@^%!%@^&@%&Q^&%^%#@^TQ%

Do all of you people go to the same fucking adult school class or something? It's the same talking point written differently about a million times over.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Wow, that's the first time I've heard the PS1 launch labled one of the best ever. At the time is was decent, since there were 10 titles instead ofthe usual 3-5, but those titles were a mixed bag.

SFC launch had one stellar game. That does not make a great launch, to me.

I think this continues to be a matter of not seeing the good games for all the stuff one personally doesn't care for.

PSP has 24 titles, which puts it in the top 2 for launches for numbers (I can't recall of the PS2 had 23 or 26).

PSP has games whose technical details outshine the only other competitor's (NDS).

PSP has two all-new new games in long-running and well-liked franchises (Wipeout and Twisted Metal). It has one mostly-new omnibus racer in a much-loved fanchise that has gotten rave reviews (Ridge Racer).

PSP has the most complete sports roster of any launch.

PSP has a wide variety of genres covered at launch: Fighting, racing, sports, strat/card, puzzle, car combat, 3d action, 3d adventure. Notablly missing RPG (but that's common for a launch) and platformer.

The only launches in the same league for quality, quantity or variety are Dreamcast and PS2. I'd rate it higher.

Oh, and many of these games have network play for the first time, not to mention being portable for the first time.

So yeah, this could be the best launch ever. I'll have to play the games before I make that call, but it's a contender.

 

[sonycowboy]

Sorry, but anyone who says the PSP launch is the 'best ever' needs to get a little perspective.

I was actually thinking it's perhaps the worst launch ever in terms of titles - only behind the 3DO, Jag and other lame attempts at upping the ante.

The fact remains, for me, that SONY has launched what is easily the best piece of hardware since the original PlayStation and there's not one frigging game that I could give a crap about. Hence I'm waiting until there are some games worth playing. And due to the way the industry is these days, I could be a waiting a long time.

Good launches were the PS1 and SFC which had games that took things up a notch. Not just rehashes of crap that's been out there a million times before.

:lol :lol

Do you know what handheld games looked like before the PSP came along? You can't honestly tell me that the PSP hasn't brought the market "up a notch". Hell, it's up quite a few "notches"

 

[sonycowboy]

Wow, that's the first time I've heard the PS1 launch labled one of the best ever. At the time is was decent, since there were 10 titles instead ofthe usual 3-5, but those titles were a mixed bag.

Were considered remarkable for their time, though

PSP has 24 titles, which puts it in the top 2 for launches for numbers (I can't recall of the PS2 had 23 or 26).

PS2 had 29

PSP has games whose technical details outshine the only other competitor's (NDS).

True dat.

PSP has the most complete sports roster of any launch.

No Madden is a big loss, and 989 has a lot to prove, but I haven't see many reviews besides the Soccer. There are alot, though.

Oh, and many of these games have network play for the first time, not to mention being portable for the first time.

No other system has had online titles at launch. Although, most of the games are LAN only (I know you can tunnel)

So yeah, this could be the best launch ever. I'll have to play the games before I make that call, but it's a contender.

Best launch is subjective and requires some time to pass for perspective. However, you cannot knock it. It's by far the best launch for a handheld, assuming you can allow for the fact there's no Mario or 'Nintendo magic' game available, which has been the biggest driver of handheld success in the past.

 

[Amir0x]

PSP has a wide variety of genres covered at launch: Fighting, racing, sports, strat/card, puzzle, car combat, 3d action, 3d adventure. Notablly missing RPG (but that's common for a launch) and platformer.

Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade? Ape Escape: On the Loose?

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I forgot Ape Escape. Oops!

Untold Legends is more of an adventure title, (my post mentioned 3d Adventure). Or action-RPG is you will. Still no regular RPG, was my point. Still, what system has had one at launch?

Sonycowboy-- PS1 launch's ten titles were not that exciting, for the most part. Ridge Racer and Toshinden were the standouts for graphics, but the rest were not as excitedly received (although, personally, Raiden Project was my favorite).

What I remember:

Ridge Racer
Toshinden
Rayman
Street Fighter The Movie
NBA Jam
Raiden Project
...

Um, drawing a blank on the rest. One was a weak 3D thing, as I recall.

Worth noting that Wipeout and Twisted Metal were *not* launch titles.

Anyway, *I* liked PS1's launch, but it's been eclipsed by later generations in terms of numbers and quality.

 

[Amir0x]

I forgot Ape Escape. Oops!

Untold Legends is more of an adventure title, (my post mentioned 3d Adventure). Or action-RPG is you will. Still no regular RPG, was my point. Still, what system has had one at launch?

It's an action-RPG, right, more like a Baldur's Gate or Champions of Norrath type thing. It's still an RPG, though, right?

Anyway, PS2 had Summoner at launch. That was an RPG. A decently well-written one but pretty much shite in every other way ;P

 

[evil ways]

I forgot Ape Escape. Oops!

Untold Legends is more of an adventure title, (my post mentioned 3d Adventure). Or action-RPG is you will. Still no regular RPG, was my point. Still, what system has had one at launch?

Sonycowboy-- PS1 launch's ten titles were not that exciting, for the most part. Ridge Racer and Toshinden were the standouts for graphics, but the rest were not as excitedly received (although, personally, Raiden Project was my favorite).

What I remember:

Ridge Racer
Toshinden
Rayman
Street Fighter The Movie
NBA Jam
Raiden Project
...

Um, drawing a blank on the rest. One was a weak 3D thing, as I recall.

Worth noting that Wipeout and Twisted Metal were *not* launch titles.

Anyway, *I* liked PS1's launch, but it's been eclipsed by later generations in terms of numbers and quality.

If my memory serves me correct, Wrestlemania The Arcade Game and Revolution X were also launch titles.

 

[jarrod]

SFC launch had one stellar game. That does not make a great launch, to me.

Er, both Super Mario World and F-Zero launched with SFC and both were a textbook case for "stellar game". I'd say both were more significant releases in their time than anything in PSP's solidly well rounded lineup though.... that tends to be the way it goes for handhelds though.

PSP has 24 titles, which puts it in the top 2 for launches for numbers (I can't recall of the PS2 had 23 or 26).

The Japanese GBA had 25 launch games on launch day... the US PSP has 16 last I'd checked. Covering almost all genres too from platforming to racing to RPG to adventure to simulation to SRPG to puzzle to RTS to sports to wrestling to board games and so on. There was even the Keynet education software at launch. Easily the largest and most diverse handheld launch and it was it's first region too (so no benefit of building up an import library before launch like PSP or GBA in America). Amazing.