PSP RELEASE DATE!! (24th of march)
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VictimOfGrief
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DarienA said:
I KNEW IT!
Even at 250, the PSP is still a great value. At 300 even... well... I won't push it. It's still a great value at 250.
The problem is that 250 is just too much for many people out there to justify spending on a handheld gaming device, especially the casuals. There's plenty of higher-priority things the average adult could spend 250 on aside from a game machine.
Also, I predict a lot of people hating the price point of the games at 40. Heck most gamers now are balking at the 40 buck DS games already. Many of the PSP games are just as high of quality as their console counterparts, but a lot of them just see that price and get turned off by it regardless, probably because they know they can get the home version for the same outlay.
It's gonna sell like crazy to the hardcore and there probably are enough hardcore gamers out there to sell out the first few shipments, but I guess we'll see after that how the price point affects the casual uptake.
There is nothing I spend more of my discretionary income on than games
... but I know most people out there aren't in the same boat. And I admit that I have more discretionary income that most out there but I still remember what it was like to be a gamer that couldn't afford something if it was 50 bucks more. I can't tell those people to "get another hobby" because I used to be one of them.
The problem is that 250 is just too much for many people out there to justify spending on a handheld gaming device, especially the casuals. There's plenty of higher-priority things the average adult could spend 250 on aside from a game machine.
Also, I predict a lot of people hating the price point of the games at 40. Heck most gamers now are balking at the 40 buck DS games already. Many of the PSP games are just as high of quality as their console counterparts, but a lot of them just see that price and get turned off by it regardless, probably because they know they can get the home version for the same outlay.
It's gonna sell like crazy to the hardcore and there probably are enough hardcore gamers out there to sell out the first few shipments, but I guess we'll see after that how the price point affects the casual uptake.
There is nothing I spend more of my discretionary income on than games
... but I know most people out there aren't in the same boat. And I admit that I have more discretionary income that most out there but I still remember what it was like to be a gamer that couldn't afford something if it was 50 bucks more. I can't tell those people to "get another hobby" because I used to be one of them.Mike Works
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Well the companies make next to zero money for selling consoles/handhelds (unless they sell you on a warranty), so these bundles are needed for decent profits, especially considering the average tie-in ratio for handhelds.
When it comes to profit on videogame merchandise, it usually goes like this:
Warranties > Accessories > Games > Systems
When it comes to profit on videogame merchandise, it usually goes like this:
Warranties > Accessories > Games > Systems
teruterubozu
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As long as the PSP lasts as long as my PS2 (got it at launch day and STILL no problems!) then I don't mind the $ too much. The PSP does feel a little flimsy though...
Drexon said:So atm none of the game stores are taking preorders for systems only?How am I supposed to get my system when I'm only planning on buying a big mem card first? *Fucked*
Sorry, don't want to confuse you. I was looking at EBgames and Gamestop website. In stores I believe you can preorder the system alone. Online you are forced into the bundles.
Wat the fuck, $300 canadian? Why no base unit? I don't give a shit about the Spiderman 2 UMD because I already have the DVD and I could get all the other extras for alot less than how much Sony is including them in and charging them for. So it's $300 CDN + $60 CDN I'm assuming for a game + $110 CDN for a 512 MB mem stick duo if I want to use any of the media capabilities. Fuck that.
I notice that EB has some games (Untold Legends, Mercury) listed as shipping on 3/15. Are any other stores listing PSP games for an early release? I'd love to get them and confirm that the PSP is definitely region free.
Guess I'd have to buy them online, too, since the local EBs around here tend to not sell games early when a new system comes out. When I had my Xbox PREPAID in 2001, they wouldn't let me take the games I'd paid for until launch day. :/
Guess I'd have to buy them online, too, since the local EBs around here tend to not sell games early when a new system comes out. When I had my Xbox PREPAID in 2001, they wouldn't let me take the games I'd paid for until launch day. :/
Lyte Edge said:I notice that EB has some games (Untold Legends, Mercury) listed as shipping on 3/15. Are any other stores listing PSP games for an early release? I'd love to get them and confirm that the PSP is definitely region free.
Guess I'd have to buy them online, too, since the local EBs around here tend to not sell games early when a new system comes out. When I had my Xbox PREPAID in 2001, they wouldn't let me take the games I'd paid for until launch day. :/
Yeah, that's what I would like to do. Say the games are locked and you want to get a US PSP to play some of the games. By the time you figure it out they're sold out until next shipment, which is who knows when (the PStwos were nowhere to be found).
Horwitz it's great to see you here.
Your comment "Rather, Nintendo needs to stop screwing around with hardware gimmicks and get back to making excellent software, the sort that used to embarrass competitors like Sony rather than emboldening them." should be written in stone somewhere.
Software quality is lacking from Japan all together man. Luminies and Jet Grind Radio and games like that are insignificant groans of frustration from Japan's true talented designers.
Even stuff that is huge and nearly revolutionary (Shen Mue...) has flopped so they might as well pack it up and resign to making games for their own kind and Western companies will make lots of pretty games like Mercenaries where you blow lots of stuff up.
Anyway, at least PSP has good sound and good graphics and Sony is finally letting their guard down on letting smaller developers release things like...shock gasp 2D games (as long as they are "good"). As long as they don't let too much crap through the gates.
You watch this industry for enough you will know that some things DO change, like new children growing up and not knowing who the heck Kojima and Squaresoft are will be a harsh reality for many of the otaku-bent denizens of this forum, as it is for people in their late 20s to late 30s being shocked that kids now don't know what Nintendo and Atari are.
I will be happy to see independent developers from around the world get the chance to get a leg in the industry with PSP. Independent developers pushing independent ideas will be revolutionary.
An inevitable evolution is going to be when the industry is "hollywood"-ized and big conglomorates use lots of contractors and freelancers to get stuff done. That should happen within the next 5 or 6 years.
Your comment "Rather, Nintendo needs to stop screwing around with hardware gimmicks and get back to making excellent software, the sort that used to embarrass competitors like Sony rather than emboldening them." should be written in stone somewhere.
Software quality is lacking from Japan all together man. Luminies and Jet Grind Radio and games like that are insignificant groans of frustration from Japan's true talented designers.
Even stuff that is huge and nearly revolutionary (Shen Mue...) has flopped so they might as well pack it up and resign to making games for their own kind and Western companies will make lots of pretty games like Mercenaries where you blow lots of stuff up.
Anyway, at least PSP has good sound and good graphics and Sony is finally letting their guard down on letting smaller developers release things like...shock gasp 2D games (as long as they are "good"). As long as they don't let too much crap through the gates.
You watch this industry for enough you will know that some things DO change, like new children growing up and not knowing who the heck Kojima and Squaresoft are will be a harsh reality for many of the otaku-bent denizens of this forum, as it is for people in their late 20s to late 30s being shocked that kids now don't know what Nintendo and Atari are.
I will be happy to see independent developers from around the world get the chance to get a leg in the industry with PSP. Independent developers pushing independent ideas will be revolutionary.
An inevitable evolution is going to be when the industry is "hollywood"-ized and big conglomorates use lots of contractors and freelancers to get stuff done. That should happen within the next 5 or 6 years.
I`m sure the reason for Value pack only is because they`re gonna screw Europe over as always, and give us only the remaining standard packs with no extras, no Spiderman 2 and price it at 250 euros. Wouldn`t surprise me one bit if this happens.
I`m sure they`ll release it months later here too, because they know they can get away with with. Fuckers.
I`m sure they`ll release it months later here too, because they know they can get away with with. Fuckers.
KyotoMecca
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Dsal said:
Agreed....
Dsal said:
Early adopters......... > price drop
john tv said:
I'm guessing somewhere in here.
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=30032&highlight=PSP+PRice
Some bans, perhaps?
Agent X
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The End said:
I think so, too.
A lot of people here are getting worked up over the $249 price. Keep in mind that this is a system launch, and it looks like Sony will have no problem with quickly selling their entire initial shipment to early adopters. After a few months pass and the hype dwindles down, Sony will probably phase in the basic "core system" package for about $50 less. There's no need for this package now, though.
Here's another point someone briefly touched on. For the launch, it's good to have everything focused on a single SKU, rather than offering multiple packages and having to deal with the headaches of trying to keep all of them in stock.
Again, the "core system" package will almost surely be released here in a few months anyway. It's easier to start with the "deluxe" package and then strip it down to the basics later, than it is to start with the system alone and then attempt to sell it with accessories at an increased price. Meanwhile, Sony (and retailers) can use this time period to gauge consumer interest in continually maintaining a deluxe bundle, and decide how long they want to continue producing it. If consumer reaction to the Value Pack is tepid, then Sony might decide to phase out the Value Pack early and emphasize the basic package for a lower price. Launching the system solely as a deluxe bundle gives Sony leeway to shift downward rather easily if the situation demands it.
Pedigree Chum
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Agent X said:
This post = right on the money.
mashoutposse
Ante Up
Before Sony turned everyone's expectations upside down with their Japanese launch price announcement, I called this shit nukka:
"$249 for PSP. I don't think Sony is looking to price match DS, to be quite honest. A higher price means a higher perceived value, which will help when price drops occur (and the REAL sales begin).
Since early adopters are willing to pay more, pricing as high as $300 shouldn't hurt them at all in the long run. I bet you that lots of them will be going for more than that on eBay."
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=15241&page=2&pp=50&highlight=psp
The "higher perceived value" will help Sony in the long run. PS1 didn't become a juggernaut until it was nearly half price.
I wonder if my next prediction will come true...
...I think that the fact that Sony chose to build a $300 handheld instead of a $150 one will pay dividends come two years from now when there have been a couple of pricedrops and it is priced to move. Who wouldn't want a PSP at mass market pricing?
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=15361&page=4&pp=50&highlight=psp
Damn it, I'm on point like a mothafucka
"$249 for PSP. I don't think Sony is looking to price match DS, to be quite honest. A higher price means a higher perceived value, which will help when price drops occur (and the REAL sales begin).
Since early adopters are willing to pay more, pricing as high as $300 shouldn't hurt them at all in the long run. I bet you that lots of them will be going for more than that on eBay."
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=15241&page=2&pp=50&highlight=psp
The "higher perceived value" will help Sony in the long run. PS1 didn't become a juggernaut until it was nearly half price.
I wonder if my next prediction will come true...
...I think that the fact that Sony chose to build a $300 handheld instead of a $150 one will pay dividends come two years from now when there have been a couple of pricedrops and it is priced to move. Who wouldn't want a PSP at mass market pricing?
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=15361&page=4&pp=50&highlight=psp
Damn it, I'm on point like a mothafucka
OK- I've decided I'm just going to import it. Can anyone direct me to an online site where I can buy it for a reasonable price? An earlier poster said he was able to import it for less that what the US launch is forcing upon us.
Or maybe one of your JPN GAFers can pick one up for me?
Drop me a PM, please.
Or maybe one of your JPN GAFers can pick one up for me?
Drop me a PM, please.
gamergirly
Member
With all of this America launch news, doesnt look too well for the Europe one:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...4695639_RTRIDST_0_TECH-TECH-JAPAN-SONY-DC.XML
TOKYO (Reuters) - Japanese electronics maker Sony Corp. could miss its end-March target for the European launch of its new handheld game machine PlayStation Portable (PSP), a company source told Reuters on Friday.
"There's a possibility that the launch could be delayed," the source said, adding that an announcement about the specific date would be made within the next several weeks.
This would effectively be the second time it has delayed the European launch since it originally planned to release the machine in time for Christmas last year.
Sony hopes to pose a serious challenge in the portable game market to Nintendo Co. Ltd., which helped to pioneer the format with its Game Boy products.
But Sony has fallen behind Nintendo from its launch as it began selling the PSP in Japan on Dec. 12, a week after Nintendo debuted its latest portable, Nintendo DS.
Sony plans to launch the PSP in the United States on March 24, whereas Nintendo has been selling its DS there since Dec. 2.
The source said Sony still planned to ship 3 million PSPs by March 31, but it was not sure how the distribution of those units would change if the launch in Europe was delayed.
Sony has said it expects to allocate 1 million units each to Japan, the United States and Europe.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...4695639_RTRIDST_0_TECH-TECH-JAPAN-SONY-DC.XML
TOKYO (Reuters) - Japanese electronics maker Sony Corp. could miss its end-March target for the European launch of its new handheld game machine PlayStation Portable (PSP), a company source told Reuters on Friday.
"There's a possibility that the launch could be delayed," the source said, adding that an announcement about the specific date would be made within the next several weeks.
This would effectively be the second time it has delayed the European launch since it originally planned to release the machine in time for Christmas last year.
Sony hopes to pose a serious challenge in the portable game market to Nintendo Co. Ltd., which helped to pioneer the format with its Game Boy products.
But Sony has fallen behind Nintendo from its launch as it began selling the PSP in Japan on Dec. 12, a week after Nintendo debuted its latest portable, Nintendo DS.
Sony plans to launch the PSP in the United States on March 24, whereas Nintendo has been selling its DS there since Dec. 2.
The source said Sony still planned to ship 3 million PSPs by March 31, but it was not sure how the distribution of those units would change if the launch in Europe was delayed.
Sony has said it expects to allocate 1 million units each to Japan, the United States and Europe.
mashoutposse said:
On 21 September 2004. But on 02 January 2005 you said this:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=824443&postcount=63
