PUA hero to stage worlwide "neomasculinist" demonstrations/meetings in 43 countries

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It's like the difference between a platypus and a duck. The both have bills, lay eggs and live in the water. Thats true.

One is sex negative the other sex positive.
One thinks traditional 1950s relationships are morally right. The other doesn't care about relationships one way or the other.
One is about shaming promiscuous woman. The other about encouraging them.
One thinks a woman purity should be put on a pedestal. The other thinks they're just as raunchy as men.

Not the ducks and platypus I mean. The redpillers and pua.
This is a disingenuous analogy, if only because someone can absolutely be a red piller and a self-described PUA, there's definitely no mutual exclusion between the two.

If anything, the Venn diagram between PUAs, redpillers, gators and MRAs would be interesting, if predictable.

I mean, sure, you can pull a "no true PUA", and point to some chill, sex positive dude who doesn't treat women like meat, and isn't a reactionary asshole, but the reality of it is that these communities do overlap each other, and speak to the same kind of guys, resonating for the same reasons.
 
This bamboozlement is being orchestrated by a noted PUA figurehead through its own PUA site and PUA community. This is a PUA thing through and through.

MRAs, PUAs, gators and red pillers are all cut from the same cloth.

The sex positive PUAs of yore have been largely displaced by assholes like him. Easily fooled sex starved manchildren represent a tastier market than awkward but well meaning guys uncapable of finding a date. Specially in the age of Tinder.

Oh sure, theres probably overlap there. Take some lonely resentful dudes, wanting easy answers for their problems, then toss in some marketers or charismatic guys trying to make a buck.

But I can't get worked up over stuff like this. I just skimmed these posts but it all seems pretty healthy to me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/


misogynistic self-serving crap is detrimental to women regardless of the flavor


They're all misogynistic scumbags with some serious issues and could be a serious danger to others. Call them for what the are, semantics doesn't really matter when discerning a nutty steaming pile of shit from a chunky steaming pile of shit.

Yeah maybe. Curious where do these PUA stand in your eyes? https://www.reddit.com/r/fPUA
 
Oh sure, theres probably overlap there. Take some lonely resentful dudes, wanting easy answers for their problems, then toss in some marketers or charismatic guys trying to make a buck.

But I can't get worked up over stuff like this. I just skimmed these posts but it all seems pretty healthy to me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/


Yeah maybe. Curious where do these PUA stand in your eyes? https://www.reddit.com/r/fPUA


Creepy, manipulative, and sociopathy disguised as debunked evopsych and buff/debuff formulas.
 
To be fair, these crazy guys and their followers exist everywhere in the Western world. There's nothing substantially American about them.

I would disagree. The growing anger amongst white men in the US is providing a fertile recruiting ground for these groups. The social and economic factors that are influencing this anger are reasonably unique to the US.
 
This whole paragraph, man. What the fuck kind of backwards logic is this?

I mean, he's admitted to having sex with people who were too drunk to consent and even wrote of one such incident "in America, having sex with her would have been rape." (Nah, man. That's rape everywhere.) He's not actually interested in preventing rape at all. He just thinks that if a woman does anything that could be construed as interest, he should feel free to fuck her and if there was a law that warned he that he intends to do just that, no matter what she wants, these stingy bitches would stop leading him and other upstanding men on all the time.

Never again would he have to consider whether or not the rapes he gladly admits to committing would or would not be legal in America.
 
I literally just heard of this guy and his group yesterday because a lot of Canadian mayors and politicians spoke out against him possibly coming to some cities.

I mean no one I knew, no one had ever heard of him, until people speaking out against him, giving him the very publicity he seeks. The Streisand effect is real. How many people now know of this guy, what he stands for, his 'group' all because people are upset by him. This is what I hate the most about the modern media. This guy would've come and gone without anyone ACTUALLY caring. Who is this random? When I read the story, his group twitter had 10k followers, just checked now and they're upto 11.7k, I bet the more we talk about them, give them the publicity they seek to get their name out there, they'll keep growing as the few odd randoms who agree with them will find out about them and join their ranks.
 
I literally just heard of this guy and his group yesterday because a lot of Canadian mayors and politicians spoke out against him possibly coming to some cities.

I mean no one I knew, no one had ever heard of him, until people speaking out against him, giving him the very publicity he seeks. The Streisand effect is real. How many people now know of this guy, what he stands for, his 'group' all because people are upset by him. This is what I hate the most about the modern media. This guy would've come and gone without anyone ACTUALLY caring. Who is this random? When I read the story, his group twitter had 10k followers, just checked now and they're upto 11.7k, I bet the more we talk about them, give them the publicity they seek to get their name out there, they'll keep growing as the few odd randoms who agree with them will find out about them and join their ranks.

Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.

In this case, ignoring it potentially leads to a bunch of women getting raped by this gaggle of sociopaths.

Letting them fester and grow in silent acceptability is much worse than loudly condemning them.
 
I would disagree. The growing anger amongst white men in the US is providing a fertile recruiting ground for these groups. The social and economic factors that are influencing this anger are reasonably unique to the US.

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Take a look at the city list, it's more international than anything. Blaming global shitlord existence on white man of America is unfair, imo as a non-white American.

But on topic, I don't even know how the fuck to respond to this. Like WUT.
 
The meetups, on 6 February 2016, involve 43 countries, with a strict ban on women, homosexuals and transsexuals attending.

that's really all you need to know about this group of people and what their end goal is
 
They're apparently holding one in Vancouver and one in Surrey, close to where I live. My sister's quite upset about it.

I don't want to be anywhere near these scumsucking parasites.
 
Guess we're getting our pua/red piller/mra defender in this topic. Sex positive? Please. All of those people are anything but that.
 
Oh, Roosh. Poor oppressed Roosh

But the strangest of Roosh’s many laments comes in a post titled “Men Must Groom More Than Cats To Get Laid,” in which he complains, in all seriousness, about having to clean the shit off his own ass.

The thesis of this odd little post of his is that these days straight men, in order to appeal to women, “have to groom more than women of 30 years ago,” a sad state of affairs that he fears “must make us the most feminized men to have ever existed.”

To make his case, he presents a long list of “the acts of grooming I’ve done at least once in the past week.”

You may notice that, despite the length of the list, most of the items on it aren’t exactly onerous tasks; indeed, many are pretty much the minimum required to function in a civilized society. I’ve bolded a few of them that caught my eye.

Floss my teeth
Brush my teeth
Scrape my tongue
Gargle with mouthwash
Pluck extra long and curly eyebrow hair that began to obstruct my vision
Trim my beard
Shave my neck
Trim ear hair
Trim nose hair
Apply baking soda to arm pits
Apply and remove contact lenses
Wipe my ass thoroughly
Shower
Stroke my balls with my hand and then smell it to ensure lack of odor
Apply benzoyl peroxide to a pimple
Apply lip moisturizer
Apply face moisturizer
Remove boogers and other debris form my nose
Comb my hair
Trim my sideburns
Wash clothes
Wash penis in bathroom sink after sex
Trim my fingernails
Trim armpit air
Squeeze out blackheads on nose
Remove residual sock fiber from underneath toe nails
Remove ear wax using cotton swabs
Remove eye gunk after waking up
Dab off extra grease on forehead with napkin​

You may note that I was too lazy to re-bold the ones that Futrelle bolded; feel free to click the link if bolding interests you. In any event, I just don't know how Roosh makes it through the day, confronted with this kind of misandry. :(
 
Operation Golddust is a go. Are the nano-mites ready?

The only problem with so many in one place is figuring out what to do with them.
 
Usually I come into these threads to drop wisdom on unsuspecting AFC's, but in this case, fuck this guy, he doesn't speak for top, tier 1 operator, master pimping, super slaying, absolutely awesome PUA pimps like myself and I will actively boycott this meeting. Okay maybe not actively because that requires effort, but if I can passive aggressively sign a petition somewhere I will sign the shit out of it!
 
Oh, Roosh. Poor oppressed Roosh



You may note that I was too lazy to re-bold the ones that Futrelle bolded; feel free to click the link if bolding interests you. In any event, I just don't know how Roosh makes it through the day, confronted with this kind of misandry. :(

Hahaha! Oh my god! So basically this guy thinks sex is something the world owes him.
 
Seeing my city on his list makes me sick, I sent out a notice on facebook and called the company that owns pretty much all the nightclubs in our city and warned them about this.

What was funny was that the company had already received emails and phone calls about it and is going to be taking measures to prevent any issues.

I stumbled upon the site that 'doosh' runs and it actually made me feel so much rage and sickness at the same time, how on earth are there people out there like that?
 
I can't seem to get DoNotLink to work on any browser, but RoK just posted that they have now cancelled the meet-ups, citing "a lack of safety or privacy". Some of them might continue, but they're now just unofficial gatherings.
 
So do these people believe that gay men choose to be gay, or simply that they are creatures fucked over by birth and worthy of pity?
 
Oh, Roosh. Poor oppressed Roosh



You may note that I was too lazy to re-bold the ones that Futrelle bolded; feel free to click the link if bolding interests you. In any event, I just don't know how Roosh makes it through the day, confronted with this kind of misandry. :(
Wow, such hardship. Or you could just be a decent person and attract a mate who likes you enough to not give a shit about lots of that stuff. My wife and I have had "just woken up, no shower, no shave, smelly breath" sex lots of times because we like and respect each other.

What I think is really funny about the whole PUA mentality, they consider themselves "alpha". I'm no PUA but I've attracted and secured a mate, impregnated her, and am now in the process of providing for a protecting my offspring. I'm the fucking alpha! My genes will continue on in this world while this fuck and those like him are genetic dead ends. They are literally failing at life.
 
Wow, such hardship. Or you could just be a decent person and attract a mate who likes you enough to not give a shit about lots of that stuff. My wife and I have had "just woken up, no shower, no shave, smelly breath" sex lots of times because we like and respect each other.

What I think is really funny about the whole PUA mentality, they consider themselves "alpha". I'm no PUA but I've attracted and secured a mate, impregnated her, and am now in the process of providing for a protecting my offspring. I'm the fucking alpha! My genes will continue on in this world while this fuck and those like him are genetic dead ends. They are literally failing at life.

You kind of make yourself sound like the description of the life of some random wild animal, it's an interesting descriptor.

Also lets not shame people for not reproducing, they ('Doosh V' followers) are failing at life for other actual reasons.
 
You kind of make yourself sound like the description of the life of some random wild animal, it's an interesting descriptor.

Also lets not shame people for not reproducing, they ('Doosh V' followers) are failing at life for other actual reasons.
I'm just mirroring their stupid use of alpha and beta male descriptors, like human relationships are akin to that of wolves or lions. I haven't read or watched much PUA stuff but the bits I have come across seemed to use those words a lot as well as "female" instead of "woman", indicating a more primal, less respect driven view of the world and the opposite sex.

The last bit was also in the same vein, at the most basic level the purpose of organic organisms is to reproduce and by not doing so they are failing. Human life and relationships are SOOO much more complex though I by no means meant to shame the childless.
 
Oh, Roosh. Poor oppressed Roosh



You may note that I was too lazy to re-bold the ones that Futrelle bolded; feel free to click the link if bolding interests you. In any event, I just don't know how Roosh makes it through the day, confronted with this kind of misandry. :(
My god. The man whines about having to wipe his ass, wash his dick, and even, gasp, apply deodorant.
 
Cancelling is so beta

I 100% guarantee this guy has had help washing his dick and wiping his ass before, likely from a woman, unless of course he was hatched fully grown from a pod
 
So do these people believe that gay men choose to be gay, or simply that they are creatures fucked over by birth and worthy of pity?

Neither. From a cursory google search they consider gay men a plague on public health, a dark omen against a nation's reproductive efficacy, ruin sports, are against gay marriage, and that they guy who caused the Philly Amtrak crash did it because he was a gay. It goes on and on.

I don't know if what their stance on the source of homosexuality in humans, but it's clear they're just homophobic fucks and it probably doesn't matter to them. I'd guess, though, that they probably believe in some sort of subconscious indoctrination theory.
 
I'm just mirroring their stupid use of alpha and beta male descriptors, like human relationships are akin to that of wolves or lions. I haven't read or watched much PUA stuff but the bits I have come across seemed to use those words a lot as well as "female" instead of "woman", indicating a more primal, less respect driven view of the world and the opposite sex.

The last bit was also in the same vein, at the most basic level the purpose of organic organisms is to reproduce and by not doing so they are failing. Human life and relationships are SOOO much more complex though I by no means meant to shame the childless.

I was hoping as such, but had to aggressively double check....just in case :O
 
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