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[Bladelaw]

I'm going to miss 5 coin dungeons...tamas any time I need to burn stam, EKMD if I need XP, Rogues for MP.

I did a little looking and we should be due for awoken Raph in the next week or two depending on how long they stretch out the current crop of evos. I think we're just missing the Norns and Sonias now right?

I picked up raph's mats just so I wouldn't need to later, you'll need Ras and Athena to do it so if you see Ras pop up in the next week or so it might be wise to pick her up.

 

[Aesnath]

I miscalculated the damage multiplier of LHeraDra+LMeta, thanks for catching my mistake.

Your last paragraph is exactly how Red Myr's full activation works. The same guy also posted an earlier video showing a solo A3 clear with LheraDra.

Well, even a blind squirrel gets an acorn from time to time. They seem to prefer to add damage to the top end rather than make things better at the bottom.

I don't necessarily think RMyr is bad, but she certainly is going to have an exacting playstyle. It is a bit like Rei Myr in that it sounds good on paper, but is likely too easy to screw up to be worth the trouble. And, unlike Rei Myr, you may lose too much damage to be worth it if you pair with a 7x6 lead (something like 102x damage with Diabolos); on the other hand, if your whole team has TPA and 7c, it could be good, but I'm not sure it is worth the effort compared to other Diabolos pairings.

I'm going to miss 5 coin dungeons...tamas any time I need to burn stam, EKMD if I need XP, Rogues for MP.

I did a little looking and we should be due for awoken Raph in the next week or two depending on how long they stretch out the current crop of evos. I think we're just missing the Norns and Sonias now right?

I picked up raph's mats just so I wouldn't need to later, you'll need Ras and Athena to do it so if you see Ras pop up in the next week or so it might be wise to pick her up.

It really feels like they are sort of holding back the follow-up-attack awakening units. I mean, I assumed that I'd have access to momiji and the 5* Norns, but they have held both back noticeably.

I honestly haven't found the time to use the 5c dungeons much--None of my family has been too interested in them and you run out of stamina very fast running tamas on your own.

 

[Quantum]

question:

would it make sense to issue a device change code every two weeks and keep it in a secure location in case you are concerned about accidental loss damage of your phone?

it seems a logical way around Gungho refusing to create an account system.

 

[bjork]

Just made Reincarnate Karin, when did she become a thing?

Also is Awoken Liu Bei the choice version of him, or should I go up another tier?

 

[Bladelaw]

Just made Reincarnate Karin, when did she become a thing?

Also is Awoken Liu Bei the choice version of him, or should I go up another tier?

Karin is pretty new, right before the Bride REM.

Awoken is still the preferred form to avoid annoying light absorbs while farming.
If you have
1 Liu Bei Awaken,
2 Liu Bei, 1 awoken and 1 Reincarnated.
3 Liu Bei, awoken, reincarnated, and killer form (G/L)

is the current conventional wisdom.

 

[Bladelaw]

Paimon and Gremory ults were announced

https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndD...d_gremory_split_ults/?st=j66gowqm&sh=0ff7f422

it's not so much a sub/lead version as a offense/defense kind of thing, the big deal is Paimon gets a Follow Up Attack awakening on one ult.

Also trap carnival incoming focusing on the most popular assist monsters.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Good thing I rolled hard and succeeded in getting my Indras and Orochis in the last PCGF.

Just beat 3p Arena with randoms. I didn't bring an answer for the Trons so I'm glad one of the others did.

 

[Aesnath]

Paimon and Gremory ults were announced

https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndD...d_gremory_split_ults/?st=j66gowqm&sh=0ff7f422

it's not so much a sub/lead version as a offense/defense kind of thing, the big deal is Paimon gets a Follow Up Attack awakening on one ult.

Also trap carnival incoming focusing on the most popular assist monsters.

I've spent some time thinking about it and I suspect that the "sub" Gremory is much better than the "lead." At this point in the game her baseline 144x mulitplier isn't as hot as it used to be. However, stacking rows, it can do significant damage. Moreover, the full 50% shield is one of the things that she needed most. She still has to deal with the limitation of needing constant active skill use (and the demands of heartcross meaning she can't just have low value, repeatable actives), but she really seems solid. The tankiness of Myr along with respectable damage.

In contrast, the "lead" split fixes almost none of Gremory's problems. 225x damage is a valuable boost in the current environment, but it comes at the cost of even less damage on a cross and the weaker shield. The only potential upside of the current 3x on active, 5x on cross arrangement is that you will have an easier time with damage absorb as 9x with active use is a good place to be and, generally, 25x is often safe as well. I'm also not sure about how her subs shift, but I feel that the loss of plum and typhon are significant, while the only gain I can think of easily is sub satsuki, if you want to go the TPA route.

Really odd decisions all around.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

I don't think you can label one or the other as sub/lead, it's more offense/defense depending on your style

 

[W-00]

EU has announced a special 10-stone REM that only contains pantheon cards with awoken forms.

There are 55 cards in it. My main wants 16 of them. My alt wants 24 of them. Alt wants to go for it, main is doubtful. At least there will be a free Rank 50 roll.

 

[Aesnath]

EU has announced a special 10-stone REM that only contains pantheon cards with awoken forms.

There are 55 cards in it. My main wants 16 of them. My alt wants 24 of them. Alt wants to go for it, main is doubtful. At least there will be a free Rank 50 roll.

I hate that it is ten stones. Feels like a lot to ask, even if you are sure to not get a silver.

 

[b33r]

Also lead Gremory changes type, which takes away plum as a sub.

 

[jiggle]

10 stone pantheons only seems like a rip off when 5star only gala only costs 5 stones

 

[divusrex]

I hate that it is ten stones. Feels like a lot to ask, even if you are sure to not get a silver.

10 stone pantheons only seems like a rip off when 5star only gala only costs 5 stones

Another comment I want to add is that 90% of that list have awoken forms that are much better than the other evolutions. Unless you already have dupes sitting around, you're essentially forced to give up the max-skilled active just to make your monster useful.

From my perspective, the only good monsters from this machine are Orochi, Indra, Okuni, and Amaterasu. This is assuming you already have at least one copy in your box, preferably the awoken/revo form.

 

[Dr_LawyerCop]

Another comment I want to add is that 90% of that list have awoken forms that are much better than the other evolutions. Unless don't have a lot of these monsters already, you're essentially forced to give up the max-skilled active just to make your monster useful.

From my perspective, the only good monsters from this machine are Orochi, Indra, Okuni, and Amaterasu. This is assuming you already have at least one copy in your box, preferably the awoken/revo form.

I completely misread this. I thought you'd get the awoken version max skilled. This is real dumb. 10 stones and no GFE, way better to roll in a good godfest. If it was an awoken form that popped out it'd at least be a good short cut for new players.

 

[b33r]

Finally got around to the OSC, took me three tries and stoned once on the last one. Worth it, got the stone back and the whale. Having to pii him will suck, but I'm sure he'll come in handy occasionally.

 

[divusrex]

I completely misread this. I thought you'd get the awoken version max skilled. This is real dumb. 10 stones and no GFE, way better to roll in a good godfest. If it was an awoken form that popped out it'd at least be a good short cut for new players.

Not your fault, it's mine. Apparently I have a mental handicap when it comes to writing posts on my phone...

I ended pulling a few more times in the bride REM and I got diamond trolled again with Wedding Bastet...on the plus side, I got Wedding Akechi. After being burned with troll diamonds I'm done with this trap machine.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Cleared my alt's first OSC with Amatsu leads. Luckily I had Drahklist so the whole dungeon was filled with stuff that made more blue orbs for me.

 

[Dr_LawyerCop]

Not your fault, it's mine. Apparently I have a mental handicap when it comes to writing posts on my phone...

I ended pulling a few more times in the bride REM and I got diamond trolled again with Wedding Bastet...on the plus side, I got Wedding Akechi. After being burned with troll diamonds I'm done with this trap machine.

Not your post but I misread the official Facebook post. I just kinda made assumptions because why would you want a max skilled card roll that you're going to just evolve and change its skill? Just a weird REM.

 

[Aesnath]

Daughter rolled some on the wedding REM today, trying, against all reason, to get a wedding gadius.

1. Sopdet
2. Ra
3. Scheat
4. Cinderella
5. Ra

Still disappointed. Kids, man.

I completely misread this. I thought you'd get the awoken version max skilled. This is real dumb. 10 stones and no GFE, way better to roll in a good godfest. If it was an awoken form that popped out it'd at least be a good short cut for new players.

Realistically, this is one of the major problems with the nomenclature that they have decided to use for this game. Why on earth would you have a major class of evolutions be called "awoken" and a bunch of skills, that every card has, called "awakenings." It is massively confusing. I've had issues with my friends and family not understanding the difference initially, and then, not always being clear about which we are talking about.

For example: "Well everyone prefers reincarnated Haku to awoken, because she has two TPA awakenings and a seven combo awakening." That sentence can be hard to parse unless you are really up on the game.

 

[Jagernaut]

Finally got around to the OSC, took me three tries and stoned once on the last one. Worth it, got the stone back and the whale. Having to pii him will suck, but I'm sure he'll come in handy occasionally.

I beat OSC on my 2nd try with D Athena but had to stone once for a dumb mistake. I also got Whaledor. I see in PadGuide that he has his own descend so I wouldn't use piis.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Whaledon's descended only appears as a guerilla in JP during certain events, and with the skill boosts and low CD to make funny inherit teams imo it's okay to pii him up

 

[Jagernaut]

Whaledon's descended only appears as a guerilla in JP during certain events, and with the skill boosts and low CD to make funny inherit teams imo it's okay to pii him up

Ok, 15 piis is a lot though.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Ok, 15 piis is a lot though.

I mean...

 

[Jagernaut]

I don't have 15 piis in any one color. I have a lot of unopened pii dungeons but that's still a lot of rng.

 

[Aesnath]

Yeah, even though I can farm arena now, piis are still a precious commodity. I got whale last time around and will likely not skill it until I have a good reason to. I regularly use the giveaway piis as well.

 

[jiggle]

I don't have 15 piis in any one color. I have a lot of unopened pii dungeons but that's still a lot of rng.

Yeah, even though I can farm arena now, piis are still a precious commodity. I got whale last time around and will likely not skill it until I have a good reason to. I regularly use the giveaway piis as well.

There will be an event in a month or so that guarantees Pii drop from rogue dungeons!!!*



*assuming NA doesn't get screwed out of it like gatchadra events

 

[Jagernaut]

Free roll on 10 stone REM was Thor. Not a dupe so that's fine. Not pulling with real stones.

 

[shintoki]

Free roll was Persephone and decided to go with another roll for Oichi.

 

[b33r]

I got U&Y, never evolved the other I have lol. Will keep the dupe for now.

 

[W-00]

Free pull on my main was Perseus. Dupe, but at least I can waste this one's skill-ups and make him into the Awoken form. I got excited for a moment and thought 'Samurai 2 series' when I saw the diamond egg, but every egg in the machine is diamond. I pulled again and got Susano no Mikoto, which I'm more pleased about. My main now has both of the main shield inherits.

Free pull on my alt was Ra #5. That should have been the end of it, but it still wanted almost half the cards in the pool, so I gave it another go. When I saw a card with long purple hair come out I thought it was Loki and that my pull had paid off. But it was actually Lakshmi.

 

[divusrex]

The RNG gods have cursed me...my main got Isis #5 and my alt got Pandora #3

 

[bjork]

I got an Andromeda, which is cool since water is probably my best type. Don't know much about her as a unit. I'll hate giving up Mion when I get around to evolving Andromeda though, since Mion took me forever to actually finish.

 

[Kwhit10]

Got a dupe Apollo.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

I got an Andromeda, which is cool since water is probably my best type. Don't know much about her as a unit. I'll hate giving up Mion when I get around to evolving Andromeda though, since Mion took me forever to actually finish.

The requirements to evolve Mion are so crushingly difficult that GungHo made anything that needed a Mion for evolution since just require the base form (but didn't change Andromeda's r requirements for some reason)

 

[Jagernaut]

I pulled once on Bride REM today and got my first light Akechi. He has a great skill but like many collab gold eggs he needs more awakenings and a stat boost to be on par with the regular version.

 

[Negator]

I got an Andromeda in my free roll, which was one of my most wanted cards, even as a dupe. Hell, I'd spend 10 more stones right now if I knew I'd get another.

 

[Bladelaw]

Free Rolls:
Main: Artemis (dupe, might be useful)
Alt: Belial (trash AFAIK)
Wife: Oichi. So she has a viable green/dark anubis team now (Diablos, Gunma, Oichi, Ronove, Robin Hood, Anubis)

Bought a pack for my pain in the wedding REM:
Roll 1: Kano
Roll 2: PERSEPHONE
Roll 3: LAkechi!

I'm done with the wedding REM now.

Also had my alt buy a Rag dragon and super evo'ed it so I'd always have one available to my main. I needed to build an MHera farm team and Galv x Huntress did an admirable job. It's subject to skyfall troll on hera but a Genie inherit stops the worst offenses. Fujin and lots of Elgenubi inherits for both sides and it steam rolls through the rest of the dungeon.

@Jager Lakechi's skill is so good I don't care. I'm putting him on my LMeta ASAP. I think I can finally build a consistent LMeta A3 team now.

 

[jiggle]

I got Pandora #4 on main
Andromeda #2 on alt

I hate Andromeda
Such a PITA to awoken her

 

[Jagernaut]

Free Rolls:
Main: Artemis (dupe, might be useful)
Alt: Belial (trash AFAIK)
Wife: Oichi. So she has a viable green/dark anubis team now (Diablos, Gunma, Oichi, Ronove, Robin Hood, Anubis)

Bought a pack for my pain in the wedding REM:
Roll 1: Kano
Roll 2: PERSEPHONE
Roll 3: LAkechi!

I'm done with the wedding REM now.

Also had my alt buy a Rag dragon and super evo'ed it so I'd always have one available to my main. I needed to build an MHera farm team and Galv x Huntress did an admirable job. It's subject to skyfall troll on hera but a Genie inherit stops the worst offenses. Fujin and lots of Elgenubi inherits for both sides and it steam rolls through the rest of the dungeon.

@Jager Lakechi's skill is so good I don't care. I'm putting him on my LMeta ASAP. I think I can finally build a consistent LMeta A3 team now.

What is your LMeta team? I like her color cross playstyle, I hit 370 million team damage once with a double cross and extra light combos.

 

[Bladelaw]

What is your LMeta team? I like her color cross playstyle, I hit 370 million team damage once with a double cross and extra light combos.

Still a work in progress but:
Lmeta(lakechi), Revo Indra(Indra), Apocalypse (paladin Cecil), Allura(wedding satsuki), Revo izanagi(Hiko), Lmeta(awoken Nene). 17 dark resists across the team so I can facetank dq Hera's preemptive. All inherits are 297 and I use the maniac HP badge. Waffling on using Revo Ra over Allura with Hunk inherit to maintain true damage and a nice orb. change

 

[bjork]

The requirements to evolve Mion are so crushingly difficult that GungHo made anything that needed a Mion for evolution since just require the base form (but didn't change Andromeda's r requirements for some reason)

Is it worth going for Andromeda? I don't know what an ideal water team looks like, I've just been clearing the content I can do with my units and intermediate know-how.

 

[tiltnkirby]

Is it worth going for Andromeda? I don't know what an ideal water team looks like, I've just been clearing the content I can do with my units and intermediate know-how.

I enjoy her on my water hunter team.

 

[LiQuid!]

Pulled 5(+2 free) times on this 10 stone thing and did reeeally good dodging dupes for the most part.

Main:

Neptune
Izanagi
Meimei
Okuninushi

Alt:

Freyr
Ra
Hades (only dupe)

One of these days I'm going to need to bite the bullet and clean out my boxes. I have been seriously neglecting PAD since I had to recover my acct a couple months ago. Didn't have it in me to go and set up all my box sorting options again and since then my shit has fallen into a massive state of disrepair. Dozens of pulls not added to PADherder, hundreds of junk drops from the MonHun Collabo, countless tamas and snowglobes waiting for me to evo all my latest pulls.

 

[Giard]

Somehow I pulled two bride Eschamalis in a row... is there any point in keeping both? Not sure if she could be a good sub on her own team, or if it's worth it to use her as an assist.

 

[divusrex]

Somehow I pulled two bride Eschamalis in a row... is there any point in keeping both? Not sure if she could be a good sub on her own team, or if it's worth it to use her as an assist.

KEEP BOTH. She's a good sub not just on her own team, but for LMeta and LHeraDra (basically any light team). She's also a good inherit too...you just pulled the card that a lot of people have been dropping mad $$$ for on this wedding machine.


DO NOT SELL THE DUPE.

 

[Aesnath]

Got an Isis on my free roll. Nice, but nothing I needed, really. She seems a bit worse than Nene on Meri, and I don't have Ra Dragon.

Challenge dungeons seem pretty straightforward this time around. I don't know why, but I just feel kinda "meh" at the moment. If I'm being really honest, I think I really wanted a Yog (maybe the first card where I was actually interested in the concept), and as unreasonable as it sounds, I'm still on a bit of a down-note since I didn't draw one.

 

[Bladelaw]

Couple more pulls on the Bride REM because I can't learn apparently:
Lilith,
Cinderella,
Bride Eschamali!

And now I'm really really done. Bride Escha fills a lot of gaps for the light teams I'm working on (while also being a hell of a lead in her own right). Arondight/Ameno is probably the best home I have for her as a sub. I might use her straight up or as an inherit on LMeta. Her HP is lower than I'd like but she ups the team's low end (non-cross) damage by a significant amount. This team doesn't have much issue with top end damage.

As a lead I never bothered looking into the A1 speed clear template since I never thought I'd roll her. Does anyone have a link or a team comp? Work is a bit restrictive in my searches.

 

[divusrex]

Couple more pulls on the Bride REM because I can't learn apparently:
Lilith,
Cinderella,
Bride Eschamali!

And now I'm really really done. Bride Escha fills a lot of gaps for the light teams I'm working on (while also being a hell of a lead in her own right). Arondight/Ameno is probably the best home I have for her as a sub. I might use her straight up or as an inherit on LMeta. Her HP is lower than I'd like but she ups the team's low end (non-cross) damage by a significant amount. This team doesn't have much issue with top end damage.

As a lead I never bothered looking into the A1 speed clear template since I never thought I'd roll her. Does anyone have a link or a team comp? Work is a bit restrictive in my searches.

Congrats on the pull, I'm quite jealous of you. I don't know how to read kanji, but I've found two A1 clear videos. I don't think they count as speed clears though...

From what I've seen, you need to have a few subs with high RCV and orb changers to combo with. Wukong, Revo Venus, Revo Amaterasu, Apocalypse, Revo Apollo, Alcyone, and Ana Valk would work. Basically any light God/Machine card should do the trick as long as you can shore up the RCV weakness.

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Another team template

 

[Bladelaw]

Congrats on the pull, I'm quite jealous of you. I don't know how to read kanji, but I've found two A1 clear videos. I don't think they count as speed clears though...

From what I've seen, you need to have a few subs with high RCV and orb changers to combo with. Wukong, Revo Venus, Revo Amaterasu, Apocalypse, Revo Apollo, Alcyone, and Ana Valk would work. Basically any light God/Machine card should do the trick as long as you can shore up the RCV weakness.

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Another team template

I played around with a few team ideas. The A1 Yomidra speed farm works pretty much identically here with enough low end damage to play around sopdet and have an inherit for Parvati. I also tried a couple more standard builds. Whenever I have a bindable lead with defensive components tied to the leaderskill I feel compelled to have a hard bind clear. Three ideas bouncing around:
Team 1: Never ending skyfall
Wescha
Revo Apollo
Allura
L/B Lmeta (Awoken Nene)
Super Wukong
Wescha
The idea here is you can have unlimited light skyfall at the cost of hearts. Wukong is there for emergency heartmaking and Lmeta is for bindclear and a combo board with Wukong. Works fine but RCV is still on the low end and move time is rough for combo shields. The maniac badge for either fixes the problem well enough for me so it's more of a which one is more applicable to a dungeon. Arena I'd probably use the RCV badge and let skyfall save me if I screw up.

Team 2: Guard Break
Wescha
Allura
Revo Indra
Alcyone (or L/B Apollo)
Revo Sakuya
Wescha
Not sure how useful guard break is on a Wescha team but I thought I'd put it together. The advantages here are any activation + guard break will sweep a high defense floor, There's enough move time to make the rainbow + 5 match, RCV isn't much worse than the other options. Downside is so many heart breakers, Wescha's damage is probably good enough for any defense check barring the 3p Arena Metatrons

Team 3: Jack of all trades
Wescha (Saria)
L/B Lmeta (Awoken Nene)
Revo Indra (Indra)
Super Wukong (Super Wukong)
Revo Venus (Lakechi)
Wescha
This team can handle almost anything. RCV is enough to not require the badge so I can run TE. The only thing I'd like is a delay and a fujin-like. I can use an off color inherit I guess but the light delay options are real sad. 5 of 7 inheritable delays are collab only, two of those 5 are the same monster just the uevo'd form. The only perpetually available inheritable delays are Light Wee Jas and Sagirinokami. Sagirinokami is nice for the team because it delays and enhances light orbs. Revo Venus seems like the best home for a fujin/Hiko.