Pasta la Vista
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Helldivers 2 will release the same day on PS5 and PC. Will be interesting to see how that does but I expect the numbers to be low on both.
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart peaks at less than 9k concurrent players on Steam, third worst PC launch for PlayStation game
Fabieter
Member
I think it depends on the price. I hope they won't go for anything higher than 40 bucks because it would definitely be a hard sell for their usual pricing.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I mean yeah they could do that if they had an idiot running the company. A more sensible option is if they went day and date and recieve the most sales from both platforms due to hype carrying both releases as opposed to less sales on PC 2 years later due to the hype having died down.
Even then, low PC launch sales don't mean shit. on PC it's all about the legs.
Captain Toad
Banned
How do you know that?
Sentenza
Gold Member
Counterpoint: Sony weirdos delusional that everyone is out there CRAVING their precious exclusives but it turns out that almost no one actually gives a fuck.
You can play this little game in more than one way.
Sentenza
Gold Member
I mean, they do.
There are "AA" games that outsold Sony ports. Sometimes even by significant margin.
Small indies as well.
What most PC players aren't particularly interesting in buying, on the other hand, is probably YEARS-OLD ports at full price.
It may work for Bloodborne, but Sony is being obtuse about that for some reason.
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Senua
Member
They wouldn't bother if they weren't
Infinite actually had a higher peak in June.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
$60 price is why I haven't bought it.
$40 I might have.
$40 I might have.
BusierDonkey
Member
It's an old game selling for a new game price. I have a backlog of old games on my PC already, I'll play those instead.
Also, I know I'll find this game for $20 in a year.
Also, I know I'll find this game for $20 in a year.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It's what I've said from the beginning. Launching these two years late...they gotta be cheaper Sony. Like 35 quid or 39.99 at a push.
Either that or launch day one, or at least within 6 months.
Either that or launch day one, or at least within 6 months.
ssringo
Member
Bingo. I have no problem with a years late port but, aside from very select games, I'm not paying a premium. I'll just keep waiting or simply forget about it and spend my money on something else.
6 months? Yeah, I'd still buy at full price. Once it gets to a year+ they need to start knocking off a few dollars or adding extra stuff at no cost. And "it costs time/money to port" ain't swaying me.
SantaC
Member
Exactly. Pc gamers want souls games or jrpgs.
SantaC
Member
How about getting the games that makes sense? like Demon's soul
dotnotbot
Member
I can bet my virginity that DeS isn't going to make much better numbers than this.
Captain Toad
Banned
Exactly. Which is why I said sales on PC better pick up.
Captain Toad
Banned
Win or lose, your virginity isn't going anywhere.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
The problem is the price.
Launched on PC in imperfect condition(not bad, but should be better), 25 months after the PS5 release and they expect full price? no thanks.
Launched on PC in imperfect condition(not bad, but should be better), 25 months after the PS5 release and they expect full price? no thanks.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
There's truth to that. I wish it was 39.99. Would have bought 2 copies.
StereoVsn
Member
Yep, at $40 it would sell much much better and would make more sense.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Everyone is just waiting for the nude mod.
//DEVIL//
Member
- As usuall, Sony wants to charge a full price on PC for their 2 to 3 years old games.
- They do not release the games that people want, but games didn't sell well in their system and want to sell it to PC gamers. Outside from the 6 years old GOW and spider man( which they sold very well ).
They deserve it. Hope they lost money as in devs costs is more than sales profit.
Learn how NOT to be arrogant and give the gamers want they want. They are the people that put food on your table you retarded mfers. They want GOW 2, Bloodborne, Demon souls remake,
Not a shit port like your face of the last of us and have the nerve to call it a remake or multiplatformer than is decent at best
Someone at Sony think PC gamers are blinded Sony fanboys that buy anything Sony without using their brain. Must be that idiot Jimbo
- They do not release the games that people want, but games didn't sell well in their system and want to sell it to PC gamers. Outside from the 6 years old GOW and spider man( which they sold very well ).
They deserve it. Hope they lost money as in devs costs is more than sales profit.
Learn how NOT to be arrogant and give the gamers want they want. They are the people that put food on your table you retarded mfers. They want GOW 2, Bloodborne, Demon souls remake,
Not a shit port like your face of the last of us and have the nerve to call it a remake or multiplatformer than is decent at best
Someone at Sony think PC gamers are blinded Sony fanboys that buy anything Sony without using their brain. Must be that idiot Jimbo
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kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Sony sitting on potential goldmines of Demons' Souls and Bloodborne but releases this.
It's not a bad game by any means, but does it sell a lot even on PlayStation? Especially by Sony first party standards? It's an old short single player game with a small fan base. I don't think these numbers are particularly bad all things considered.
It's not a bad game by any means, but does it sell a lot even on PlayStation? Especially by Sony first party standards? It's an old short single player game with a small fan base. I don't think these numbers are particularly bad all things considered.
These 100 dollar 12-hour linear games Sony fans love are just not PC gamer's cup of tea
Just look at the Most Played Steam games
Its all Live Service games
Which is why I find it funny every time someone hates on Jim Ryan for trying to branch out Sony's horribly repetitive First Party output
Why would you even expect single player games to linger on a ‘Most played’ chart?
Sales or revenue should be the only metric you should use for those.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
The game is too expensive, it’s like 8-10 hours long and there isn’t much replay value. Should have been $40 even when it launches on PS5.
huh? the shockingly bad port of dark souls did better than this. Demon Souls would do well on pc. I havn't bought any of sony's pc ports yet but I would buy demon souls day 1 even at the stupid full prices release. Not sure either of us will ever be proven right or wrong though because they seem to not want to port it ever, although the kinda some what souls like remnant 2 is destroying r&c on pc sales wise.
genesisblock
Member
Old-games-nu-prices won't sit well with any customers. Unless they have a simultaneous release. They clearly don't understand how big the PC market is for games catalog.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Bb is not a big seller. I believe it did 2 million and then bottomed out. I remember buying it for $6.99 just a couple of years after launch on psn. The order was $4.99 so that should tell you that it was not a non seller despite the internet hype.
Demon souls took a full year to sell 1.3 million on ps5 to 20 million ps5 buyers. Ratchet sold 1 million in just a month. Very poor attach ratio for both but ratchet sold faster. Nixxes was already doing the Spider-Man ports and likely found it easier to port ratchet than start from scratch on another engine. Especially since they are set to work on spiderman 2 next.
People don’t understand that ds and bb were not huge sellers on ps consoles. Bb is over 8 years old and ds didn’t exactly light the charts on fire. I think sackboy over ds is a weird choice but returnal, miles, tlou, Horizon, gow and Spider-Man all make perfect sense to me. Returnal is a pc genre game that should’ve been a success but Sony didn’t realize that pc gamers don’t spend $60 on these rogue likes. Tlou was done by nd internally because they were making factions which was supposed to be a day one game on PC. And nixxes is the best porting studio porting their best selling franchise. Ratchet was a mistake and they should’ve moved on to porting Spider-Man 2 immediately last year but they probably didn’t want to risk a backlash if they got it out Day one.
ZehDon
Gold Member
Two years late and full price for a questionable port is Sony's MO at this point, but their shareholders will be fine with these kinds of failures as long as PS5 keeps printing money. However, if Microsoft ever gets its shit together and proves Xbox can make bank while launching on console and PC together, Sony's shareholders will start to question why their PC titles are failing.
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twilo99
Gold Member
but Spiderman sells like crazy..
Fess
Member
The Steam concurrent user numbers aren’t that bad for MS games with simultaneous PC and Xbox release, besides Redfall, and that’s with Gamepass eating on game sales and Windows Store version taking away some Steam sales too. Halo is like 250k and Horizon 5 80k.
I think GT7 would’ve sold like crazy with a day 1 PC release, especially if they had the VR version there too.
But we’ll never know.
Sony should get some hints on how popularity are affected with the multiplayer focused games they have planned that could come to PC same day.
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Barakov
Gold Member
I've never been more happy to be an outsider.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
That sounds quite bad to me?
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Astray
Member
Sony basically just made back the majority of the costs of porting (which are far less than the costs of developing the game). The game will have a long tail via periodic sales and key sites.
Keep in mind that they own Nixxes now, which likely means that they are paying out far less than they would have if they outsourced the project.
Senua
Member
I don't think they "need" to, they're clearly worth it for sony even with the relatively low numbers
caligula13
Gold Member
can I stream it on ge force now or on boosteroid? if yes, then I am buying the game
Luipadre
Member
Its sony. It will be 60 on PC and will be DOA day 1
Gen.Grievous
Member
Not going to make a difference. Only day 1 releases will help but that is not something Sony can do. These type of receptions will only show them it is not worth it to port them to the PC.
ZehDon
Gold Member
I believe their GaaS titles are all coming to PC day one. That shows Sony is fully capable and willing to release their titles multi-platform, like Microsoft, but they're trying to milk PlayStation gamers for every dollar, and then milk PC gamers. When push comes to shove, Sony knows PS5 alone can't guarantee their GaaS titles are successful, they need the PC players to help hit critical mass - hence their GaaS titles being treated differently.