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I want some metal music, preferrably power metal. I'm not hugely well informed on the metal genre(s) of today but I'd like some suggestions.

Firstly, no screaming metal where the singer tries to sound like he's talking in tongues. Secondly, double bass drum is for pussies. I'd like something that's metal, but has a melody to it, and isn't just 5 chords played really really fast with dark lyrics and double bass drum cycling endlessly throughout the entire catalog.

How are Dragon Force, Children of Bodom, ect. ect. What are the essentials?
 
Lemurnator said:
I want some metal music, preferrably power metal. I'm not hugely well informed on the metal genre(s) of today but I'd like some suggestions.

Firstly, no screaming metal where the singer tries to sound like he's talking in tongues. Secondly, double bass drum is for pussies. I'd like something that's metal, but has a melody to it, and isn't just 5 chords played really really fast with dark lyrics and double bass drum cycling endlessly throughout the entire catalog.

How are Dragon Force, Children of Bodom, ect. ect. What are the essentials?

omg, are you fucking retarded?

you want power metal suggestions

yet you don't like double bass
 
Yes, DragonForce is beyond badass, but pretty much, you can't have Power Metal without double bass drumming. It is an essential element. It's going to be there in some capacity. Almost all "extreme metal" (Power, Death, Melodic Death, Black, Folk, etc.) has double bass in it. It's unavoidable.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
You want power metal? I'll give you some power metal.

Anything by:
Avantasia
Blind Guardian
Demons & Wizards
Dragonforce
Dream Evil
Edguy
Falconer
Firewind
Freedom Call
Hammerfall
Iced Earth
Lost Horizon
Luca Turilli
Mano-fucking-war
Rhapsody
Sonata Arctica
Stratovarius

I also like:
Ayreon / Star One/ Anything Arjen Lucassen
Crimson Glory
Elvenking
Ivory Night
Labyrinth
Leatherwolf
Nocturnal Rites
Viscious Rumors

Yes, DragonForce is beyond badass, but pretty much, you can't have Power Metal without double bass drumming. It is an essential element. It's going to be there in some capacity. Almost all "extreme metal" (Power, Death, Melodic Death, Black, Folk, etc.) has double bass in it. It's unavoidable.
uoted for truth. The double bass is one of the biggest parts of power metal
 
Ecrofirt said:
You hit the friggin jackpot with me, girl. Give me a few minutes.

Although..



*cough*

When it's the only thing used, to make the drummer sound like they have more skill than they actually have it's for pussies.

When it's used in a way that kicks ass, I'm for anything the musician can get their hands on.
 

Meier

Member
One of my best friends up at school is a huge metalhead (he lurks here actually).. you can check out his AudioScrobbler profile for suggestions: http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/logradechili/

Here's his top 10 though:
1 Amon Amarth 390
2 Monco 261
3 Dio 151
4 Suffocation 110
5 At The Gates 104
6 Amorphis 80
7 Nevermore 74
8 Behemoth 72
9 Decapitated 61
10 Malevolent Creation 48
 
I know that Iced Earth is a revolving door of band members.

Any particular albums to check out for each of the best bands listed?
 

lexy

Member
I don't know what's "cool" among the image-conscious metal crowd but Lacuna Coil seems right up your alley.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
a big band to look out for next year is Holyhell.

They opened for the Rhapsody/Manowar tour that just finished in the states, and they're phenominal.
 

FightyF

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Try out DragonForce, they have a free mp3 online from their latest CD. I love the guitar solo. Kicks so much ass.

Try The Old Dead Tree. They used double bassdrums sparingly, and there is some yelling, but hey the entire CD is dedicated to their dead drummer (the entire album was totally re-written for him before release), so it's more angry in a different sense :p

I put an mp3 on my server...it was hard to choose one "they're all soOOoo good!". Check it out...and buy their CD!! :)

The Old Dead Tree - How Could You?
 
I don't think this is what you're looking for, but I recall seeing a "Metal" magazine at Walmart about a year ago claiming that "The Darkness" were the return of metal. So.. there ya go. :lol



I believe in a thing called love! (I actually like that song a lot)
 
lately all that's been playing on my ipod is some Megadeth and Metallica(Master, Justice and ride the lightning), some barf(french canadian metal group) and Stratovarius, I think my metal phase ain't done so I'll check some groups on this topic.
 
The following albums from metallica are worth checking out, they have lots of melody:

-And justice for all
-Master of puppets
-Ride the lightning

You might also enjoy Megadeth, their latest album the system has failed was awesome
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Try out DragonForce, they have a free mp3 online from their latest CD. I love the guitar solo. Kicks so much ass.

Try The Old Dead Tree. They used double bassdrums sparingly, and there is some yelling, but hey the entire CD is dedicated to their dead drummer (the entire album was totally re-written for him before release), so it's more angry in a different sense :p

I put an mp3 on my server...it was hard to choose one "they're all soOOoo good!". Check it out...and buy their CD!! :)

The Old Dead Tree - How Could You?

1 minute and 19 seconds into the song is the kind of singing that I absolutely cannot stand.
 

ElyrionX

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Ecrofirt has already listed the best power metal bands around today. I personally would recommend Edguy, Rhapsody, Kamelot and Sonata Arctica.

Oh, and asking for power metal suggestions and saying things like "double bass drums is for pussies" makes you sound like some kind of retard.

Finally, Dragonforce is probably *THE* most overrated power metal band.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
ElyrionX said:
Ecrofirt has already listed the best power metal bands around today. I personally would recommend Edguy, Rhapsody, Kamelot and Sonata Arctica.

Oh, and asking for power metal suggestions and saying things like "double bass drums is for pussies" makes you sound like some kind of retard.

Finally, Dragonforce is probably *THE* most overrated power metal band.
I'm a power metal head.
 

Outlaw

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I can't beliebe no one has mentioned KAMELOT and NIGTHWISH!!! What's wrong eith you bastards!! Well, at least Stratovarius was mentioned.
 

FightyF

Banned
nitewulf said:
dragonforce's drummer died??
shit, thats the best thing they had going for them!

No The Old Dead Tree's drummer.

Speaking of...folk metal or whatever you want to call it. I ordered a couple Fintroll CDs and they've yet to come in. So hard to get I guess...

Lemurs said:
1 minute and 19 seconds into the song is the kind of singing that I absolutely cannot stand.

Yeah...I guess you said you didn't want it...but I figured the yelling to singing ratio was low enough. It's the same singer too, it's kinda freaky how he does it. Going from almost Backstreet Boy singing to the Voice of the Devil during the course of 2 syllables.
 
Since it hasn't been pointed out yet...

Lemurnator said:
Firstly, no screaming metal where the singer tries to sound like he's talking in tongues.

Okay...

Children of Bodom

Um.... Children of Bodom have death metal vocals. Which I myself am not too fond of, but CoB is a decent band regardless (some say brilliant, but whatever).

Opeth is a band you want to look into. They have death metal vocals, but IMO they're used very classy. It's almost like opera. The singer also uses clean vocals - as much as the death metal growl - which are very nice. A brilliant band that anyone interested in metal should check out.

Blind Guardian is a great band. I'd recommend Imaginations from the Other Side to start. Then go up from there, but not down; their earlier stuff didn't do much for me.
 
Ecrofirt said:
If anyone wants to know where you can get metal at the lowest price ever, let me know.

Hmm, do tell. I buy a lot from Amazon, MetalDisc.com, and eBay. Low prices would be appreciated.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
I'll list some of my favorite power metal CDs:

Avantasia
>Metal Opera Pt. 2

Blind Guardian
>Nightfall In Middle Earth

Edguy
>Hellfire Club

Falconer
>Chapters From A Vale Forelorn

Hammerfall
>Legacy Of Kings
>Renegade

Rhapsody
>Dawn Of Victory
>Symphony Of Enchanted Lands Pt. 2

There's more, but those are my favorites.

My offer still stands. If you want metal, PM me for info.
 

nitewulf

Member
lemur, go for kamelot's epica. melodious metal doesnt get much better than that. its not very hard though, not hard at all in fact, but thats probably a good thing.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
>>>Avantasia
Blind Guardian
Demons & Wizards
Dragonforce
Dream Evil
Edguy
Falconer
Firewind
Freedom Call
Hammerfall
Iced Earth
Lost Horizon
Luca Turilli
Mano-fucking-war
Rhapsody
Sonata Arctica
Stratovarius<<<

Lol, Richard Christy from the Stern show was in at least two of those bands. Demons & Wizards and Iced Earth, I think.
 
Syb said:
:D

Children of Bodom - Everytime I Die

(Pussy song name, I know)

This band confounds me. They're so fucking heavy, yet at the same time, you can't help but get a huge grin when you're listening to them. They just sound like they're having so much damned fun doing what they're doing that you seriously can't help but love it. Add to that the absolute stupidity of their lyrics, and you have a band you absolutely cannot help but love. The singer takes some getting used to, but once he "clicks" you realise his voice is perfect for the band.

Needled 24/7, Mask of Sanity....they have so many songs that are just so damned fun to listen to. I frickin love this band so much. They're technical, heavy, complex, and have a million things going on at once, but something about their music makes it immediately obvious that they're having a great time playing, and it just makes you love the music.

EDIT- Didn't finish my post before clicking submit :/


Ahhh...forgot I was supposed to be responding to the original poster =)

Opeth is a band you want to look into. They have death metal vocals, but IMO they're used very classy. It's almost like opera. The singer also uses clean vocals - as much as the death metal growl - which are very nice. A brilliant band that anyone interested in metal should check out.
Opeth is an absolutely timeless band. They're really one of the classic bands to hit the scene and should not be missed by anyone, ever, regardless of musical preference. I think "Still Life" is perhaps the greatest death metal(if you could call it that) metal album ever recorded.

{warning....long pain of salvation rambling coming up..if you already know how great this band is...skip ahead}

I really feel that you can't mention Opeth without mentioning Pain of Salvation though. Opeth is like an attempt to add a genuinely emotional aspect to metal. Pain of Salvation, is to me, and many others I know, the absolute epitomy of emotion in musical form. The two bands base their music off the idea that you really can't tell what's coming next, but I feel PoS does it to a much larger, and better executed level.

They're lead in nearly every way by their singer, Daniel Gildenlow. I'm convinced this man turns everything he touches to gold as even their poorest album (One Hour by the Concrete Lake, for me) is nothing short of a breathtaking masterpeice. Their music is emotionally engaging (listen to Remedy Lane...and realise that it is almost entirely autobiographical), intellectually engaging (listen to, and make a concerted effort to understand the concept behind BE, their latest cd. It's absolutely rediculously deep and complex...and raises many intersting ideas and concepts about religion), musically complex(Handfull of Nothing, off the previously mentioned OHBtCL, is a perfect example. Any guitarist who's tried will tell you, the chugging intro riff is about a billion times as hard to play as it sounds like it would be). Their lyrics are deep, poetic(but not overbearing), unsettling when appropriate, but never cheesy, and perfectly fit to the songs. Their music is tough to describe as it varies to a great degree from song to song. They're one of the few bands that I can genuinely say most of their songs really bare no resemblance to each other, while never sounding contrived or forced. Their albums are deep and challenging...every single one is a concept album, even their live album, which has songs from most of their other albums, is arranged in such a way that there is a faint concept running through. And I should mention that their singer has one of the versatile, powerful, dynamic, and all around incredible voices in music today. And he sounds perfect live. Get their live dvd of BE. Their singer is absolutely flawless live, unlike many other singers of the type.

One thing though, they can be, at first, a VERY tough pill to swallow. They are not a band that has a tendency to jump out and grab you at first. When I first discovered them about a year ago(they were actually reccomended to me....someone told me "They are to Prog-Metal what Opeth are to Death metal"....this is a description that after thinking about it, I would agree with whole heartedly)...when I first started listening to them, I recognized they were talented, and doing something different, but it didn't really grab me. Nevertheless, I like talent, so I kept it in my cd player. Somewhere around last august it hit me that I had a new favorite band. I immediately ordered most of their cd's (I still have 2 to get), and one of which, Remedy Lane, has since become, unquestionably, my favorite album in the history of music. It is a touching story that revolves primarily around the singer's childhood, and a short time he spent in Budapest(Hungary) a few years ago. It is very personaly, very honest, and absolutely gut-wrenchingly emotional at times. Songs like "Rope Ends" and the closing track "Beyond the Pale" are absolutely devastating.

I'm going to stop. I'd love to go on about how absolutely mind blowingly incredible this band is, but every time I do, it seems to fall on deaf ears. If you what I've said interests anyone at all though, I would reccomend starting out with "The Perfect Element pt.1" as the starting point for getting into the band. It's the "most accesible" cd they have(still quite tough to swallow at first...but the melodies are most obvious on this cd), and has the most typical story(although it's not really very typical). Give it a shot before taking on Remedy Lane, as Remedy Lane will undoubtedly take soem time to digest. This band will sink it's teeth into you if you let, and I wholly reccomend that you do.

{end of pain of salvation ramble}


As far as purely Power Metal though, I'd say Iced Earth, Kamelot, and Dragon Force are good places to start. Dragon Forces singer is incredibly annoying IMO, but their music is ace.
 
I cannot believe there's been no mention of Gamma Ray or Helloween!!

It is absolutely essential to hear these two bands. Most recommend the old stuff, but I actually prefer the newer material with these two. You can't go wrong with:

Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out In Space (quite possibly my favorite PM album)
Gamma Ray - Powerplant (extremely close second)

Helloween - The Dark Ride
Helloween - Rabbit Don't Come Easy
 

Diablos

Member
Listen to In Flames. They rock.

hXc_thugg said:
Xiu Xiu is metal. So fucking metal. Listen to Xiu Xiu.

You're joking, right? Xiu Xiu is overpassionate indie gloom and doom pop sugar coated with extremely sensitive overdramatic vocals. Love or hate it, but it's not metal. I personally can't stand Xiu Xiu, but as White Man said, they aren't for everyone.
 
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Must listen from Savatage:

Power of the Night
24 Hours Ago
Legions
Hall of the Mountain King
Gutter Ballet

Must listen to from Racer X:

Frenzy
Street Lethal
Scarified <--- Dear GOD...
Viking Kong
Godzilla (cover of BOC's)
 
Error Macro said:
I cannot believe there's been no mention of Gamma Ray or Helloween!!

It is absolutely essential to hear these two bands. Most recommend the old stuff, but I actually prefer the newer material with these two. You can't go wrong with:

Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out In Space (quite possibly my favorite PM album)
Gamma Ray - Powerplant (extremely close second)

Helloween - The Dark Ride
Helloween - Rabbit Don't Come Easy

Damnit...I was going to say Gamma Ray, also. Why did I not say Gamma Ray. Argh.

I've never listened to Helloween though, but I know enough to know that is a problem I should correct soon.
 
Lemurnator said:
Any particular albums to check out for each of the best bands listed?

Here is a list of bands I enjoy and catchy tunes that could help you get into the genre.

Helloween
(with Michael Kiske (former singer))
Best album: Keeper of the Seven Keys Part II (perfect album to familiarize yourself with speedy melodic metal, singer is one of the best ever)
Great songs: Future World, I Want Out, Eagle Fly Free, Mankind, The Chance

(with Andi Deris (current singer))
Best album: The Time of the Oath
Great songs: I Can, Sole Survivor, The Departed

Rage
Best album: Hard to say with their great output, but Soundchaser, their last, is impeccable
Great songs: too many to list all, but Solitary Man, Days of December, Sent by the Devil, End of All Days, Back in Time, The Mirror in Your Eyes, War of Worlds, Soundchaser and Human Metal are all catchy as hell

Symphony X
Best album (to start with): The Divine Wings of Tragedy
Great songs: Again, too many to list but you can't go wrong with Of Sins and Shadows, Candlelight Fantasia, Fallen, Inferno, Communion and the Oracle, King of Terrors and A Winter's Dream - The Ascension (Part II)

Iced Earth
Best album: Something Wicked this Way Comes
Great songs: Dracula, A Question of Heaven, Melancholy, Watching Over Me, Wolf, Waterloo, I Died for You, Attila


Other highly recommended songs:

Sonata Arctica (for some reason, women always seem to LOVE this band) - Kingdom for a Heart, Sing in Silence, Mary-Lou, Broken, Replica

Sentenced - Cross My Heart and Hope to Die, Excuse Me While I Kill Myself

Angra - Nothing to Say, Silence and Distance, Carolina IV

Bruce Dickinson - The Tower, Darkside of Aquarius, Book of Thel

Blind Guardian - Noldor, Bright Eyes, The Soulforged

Kamelot - When the Lights are Down, Center of the Universe, Forever, The Black Halo, Karma

Royal Hunt - Tearing Down the World

Grave Digger (raspy vocals, but still power metal) - Baphomet, Inquisition, Lionheart

Kreator (thrash metal band made one album that fancies the melodic side of metal - here are two great tracks from this disc) - Chosen Few, Willing Spirit

Demons and Wizards - Blood on My Hands

Falconer (cheesy band warning) - Upon the Grave of Guilt, Substitutional World, Lord of the Blacksmiths (!)
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Lemurs, you haven't gotten back to me via aim yet.

I'm going to list a few good power metal songs now:
Avantasia
>The Seven Angels

Blind Guardian
>Mirror Mirror

Edguy
>Lavatory Love Machine (and I'm listing thios because of the awesome cheese factor if nothing else!)

Falsoner
>Enter The Glade

Hammerfall
>Heeding The Call
>Templars Of Steel

Rhapsody
>Dawn Of Victory
>Holy Thunderforce
>Unholy Warcry
>Guardians Of Destiny
 

blahness

Member
how's about you try something a little different

Agalloch - Pale Folklore or The Mantle

they are an awesome Doom/Folk Metal band that has great melodies

and if you want something a little more epic try

Windir - 1184 or Likferd

awesome Viking/Folk/Black Metal!!
 

nitewulf

Member
Canadian Psycho said:
Sonata Arctica (for some reason, women always seem to LOVE this band) -
because they arent that heavy, they are very melodious, and they sing power ballads. and i guess the guys are not bad looking. technically they are really really good though.
 

Polari

Member
What about Ministry?

Their later stuff is metal. They were really quite popular in the early 1990s, with one album going platinum. Check out the classic Psalm 69 if you want some speed metal, or Filth Pig if you want slower, dirgy stuff. Their last two, House of the Mole and Animositisomina are decent too. Best tracks are "Just One Fix", "Reload", "Animosity", "So What" (from their earlier, more industrial The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste, but it is more a "metal" song, not to mention a damn good one), "Impossible", "N.W.O.", "No W", "Worthless" and "What About Us?" (which they performed in the movie A.I.) Also, they get points for not writing songs about Dungeons and Dragons (unless you actually like that sort of topic in your music).

Amusingly, before they became a metal band, they were a synth pop group and the guy used to sing in a fake British accent on songs with titles like "Work for Love", "I'm Not an Effigy" (say it slowly :lol) and "I Wanted to Tell Her".
 

kablooey

Member
I find the disconnect between how silly most metal bands sound/look and how seriously they take themselves quite amusing. :D But if it's your bag, who am I to troll? Oh, too late for that I guess.
 
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