Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.

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I imagine it is exaggerated a bit, but honestly I think we are in for a very good first year of the NX, Nintendo hasn't made many Wii U games the last couple years, almost everything was out-sourced iirc, and some Wii U games have moved to NX. I think you'll see a lot of stuff that will make the argument that she is right, but if you think it will match quantity, I imagine you'll be disappointed, though it could come pretty close if NX is also absorbing 3DS development.

Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, and two Star Fox games is significant Nintendo internal development even with moving several things to NX.
 
Super metal Dave first video since his break is Xenoblade Chronicles X in 4K.

He's teasing nx having 4K output support. Sony and Xbox releasing their iterations to combat Nintendo confirmed, fam.

:p
I know it's a joke post, but i just think 4K is so unnecessary right now.

Imo, there should be a gen where we get 1080p/60fps on a regular basis even with games with high graphical fidelity and effects first, before we move on to another resolution standard.
 
I think NX will be 14nm and was originally going to launch in 2017. (The following is my view of events leading up to NX launch in 2016)

Thinking back to 2014, Nintendo was confident that they could turn around Wii U sales, they had just launched Mario 3D World and was looking at Mario Kart 7 and Smash 4 Wii U to "save" the Wii U. Their E3 was huge and they had momentum going into the holiday, during fall 2014 they started hardware development of the NX, at this point they figured they would keep Wii U for 3 more years and launch NX in 2017, so they picked technologies that would be ready in 2017, Nintendo uses withered technology anyways and this was a safe bet for them.

Holiday 2014 killed the Wii U. The big indicator is E3 2015, they clearly were moving away from Wii U, yes they launched Splatoon, but they didn't expect it to be a huge hit that it ended up being, Mario Maker a clear system seller was also not something Nintendo really believed in at first, they just couldn't bet on the Wii U anymore. Even Miyamoto was stunned by the low sales of the Wii U sighting that it has never been that bad.

A tough choice had to be made, the promise Nintendo made in Holiday 2014 about Zelda had to be broken, Starfox Zero is to save face with fans, but most content has already been moved over to NX.

Zelda was probably delayed for NX launch, though it might have been delayed out of 2015 anyways, considering that Zelda titles almost always are. They took their time to add voice acting and a female version of Link, not to mention that they probably spent the extra year polishing the hell out of the game. Anyways...

So holiday 2014 happens, Nintendo realizes that Wii U can't be saved, they change their gameplan, they can't support Wii U 5 years with 3DS's falling sales, they will have to push back Zelda and move up software development of NX titles for launch, they have to port Wii U games to NX and extent Wii U's software with DLC through it's biggest games. Splatoon, Smash, Mario Maker all get longer DLC support than originally planned (IMO)

Because of this change to NX's launch date (Yes I don't think mid 2014 Nintendo thought they would launch NX by the end of 2016) NX carries more modern technology than we are probably use to seeing from Nintendo, because it is a year earlier than originally planned. I think 14nm, Polaris, LPDDR4 256bit (136gb/s I think) are all very possible with NX and it actually makes more sense considering the context above.
I doubt it, especially in the case of Smash & Splatoon. I've made my point about Smash numerous times, but most of the support Splatoon is getting now is minor. It's likely that most of the new ideas are being saved for the sequel.

I know it's a joke post, but i just think 4K is so unnecessary right now.

Imo, there should be a gen where we get 1080p/60fps on a regular basis even with games with high graphical fidelity and effects first, before we move on to another resolution standard.
I think he meant output for stuff like Netflix.
 
Look, Nintendo's games don't mean much at all. They aren't system sellers to any large degree if the console sucks. Just look at Wii U. If they were it'd be in a MUCH better position than it is.

Relying on their own software for a new console is just stupid. Sure they need some, but more than that they need third party big games to really make a splash. If they're happy to just be a 20 million selling platform holder then sure, stay with your own titles mainly.


Yeah that's not hard.

3rd party games are only system sellers on the market leader. Just ask XB1 why 3rd parties aren't selling as well on their platform, it is literally selling based on exclusives, timed exclusives and the xbox branding, and even then it isn't enough for Microsoft. It would be even worse of a system seller on Nintendo's platform.

Nintendo can support their own platform they just can't support 2. together their platforms have sold ~70 Million devices, a far cry from DS and Wii but these are in line with PS3 or 360, so if NX absorbs both platforms and offer similar library of titles to both the 3DS and Wii U, but in it's newer versions, there is no reason that Nintendo has to bow out of the market or bend to becoming a knock off of the Playstation 4. No one really wants that, not even hardcore Nintendo fans.

NX needs to simply be focused on offering an alternative to Microsoft and Sony, not 2 alternatives.
 
They would be insane to not start building upon their most social games/apps that could drive the userbase as early as possible. Did they just tease us for over a year with with the AC app on WiiU just to pull our legs? I'm guessing they might want to sneak AC into Miitomo or the other day around.

Yeah, people always go for the big fanboy favorites when speculating about upcoming Nintendo line-ups. Of course we love those games and we think they're the most natural thing.

But as you say, there will be some quirky social gaming thing coming. Maybe as you say building on the push for Miitomo.

Like "Tomodachi Life: Miitomo Madness".

Tomodachi Life has been a huge hit in Europe, one of the best sellers of its year in several countries.
 
if it's handheld + console and nintendo is pulling out all the stops (as the kids like to say), then this is a best-case scenario:

nov 2016-march 2017:
wii u/3ds-to-nx
-splatoon (with all dlc and new stages)
-super mario maker dx (with all dlc and new features)
-zelda
-super smash bros. for nx (includes all stages and features from both versions, and all dlc, plus one ore two new characters)
-pokemon sun/moon (i am not letting this one go)

first-party made for nx
-epd tokyo's new mario game
-retro studios's new game (metroid prime related)
-pikmin 4
-amiibo-based 'n-stars' game

third-party exclusive:
-sonic the hedgehog 25th anniversary (classic-style game)
-beyond good & evil 2

third-party multiplatform:
-call of duty: space cop
-skylanders: crashlanders (with exclusive amiibo content)
-nba 2k17
-deus ex: mankind divided
-mass effect andromeda
-final fantasy versus xiii
-dragon quest xi: both versions edition (japan-only)
-dragon quest x (all expansions, japan-only)
-sonic the hedgehog 25th anniversary (modern-style game)
-lego star wars rogue one
-lego dr. strange
-lego tales from minecraft
-yo-kai watch 3 (multiplatform with 3ds)

would be a decent start
I think you know what I'm gonna say.
 
I doubt it, especially in the case of Smash & Splatoon. I've made my point about Smash numerous times, but most of the support Splatoon is getting now is minor. It's likely that most of the new ideas are being saved for the sequel.

You misunderstood, I am saying Smash, Splatoon and Mario Maker were originally planned to have less DLC support than they eventually got, because Nintendo needed to prompt up the Wii U without offering those Wii U games they moved to NX, I'm saying these things already happened, and not that they are going to continue, NX launches this year as far as I can tell, so there is no need to support Wii U much longer after E3, and I'm a Wii U owner.
 
I think he meant output for stuff like Netflix.
Yeah, sure, maybe i should have be more clear in my post. I have my serious doubts that Nintendo pulls out a device with 4K rendering of the games, or at least i hope so, i'd like to keep the console sub-700 bucks if possible. :)

And even for streaming, it's not necessary. At least not for Nintendos system. Can't see the thing having Bluray or even UHD Bluray playback, and they should really get their game business back running first, and think about what output resolution for streaming to add with the next system.
 
I know it's a joke post, but i just think 4K is so unnecessary right now.

Imo, there should be a gen where we get 1080p/60fps on a regular basis even with games with high graphical fidelity and effects first, before we move on to another resolution standard.
Lucky for us, most of Nintendo's IP's run at 60fps except for Zelda and Xenoblade.

So this nx gen will likely be 1080p60 for lots of games, but I doubt the third party games will aim for that even if the nx is hypothetically more powerful than PS4/XB1
 
Super metal Dave first video since his break is Xenoblade Chronicles X in 4K.

He's teasing nx having 4K output support. Sony and Xbox releasing their iterations to combat Nintendo confirmed, fam.

:p

We'll know in the coming months if Trev's still got it. :p
 
60fps will not be standard in the foreseeable future because regardless of power companies want to push their games visuals as far as they can go, and then a bit more.
 
Yeah, sure, maybe i should have be more clear in my post. I have my serious doubts that Nintendo pulls out a device with 4K rendering of the games, or at least i hope so, i'd like to keep the console sub-700 bucks if possible. :)

And even for streaming, it's not necessary. At least not for Nintendos system. Can't see the thing having Bluray or even UHD Bluray playback, and they should really get their game business back running first, and think about what output resolution for streaming to add with the next system.

It will almost certainly have 4k output, modern GPUs just do, the device will be powerful enough for 4k video playback as well and netflix, amazon, ect exist. As for games, if it outputs in 4k, games can be made in 4k, but I expect Nintendo to target 1080p. Some indies might go for 4k though. Again 4k is just a standard of modern technology right now, it has little to do with power.
 
Lucky for us, most of Nintendo's IP's run at 60fps except for Zelda and Xenoblade.

So this nx gen will likely be 1080p60 for lots of games, but I doubt the third party games will aim for that even if the nx is hypothetically more powerful than PS4/XB1
I have not much doubt about Nintendo reaching this performance with their own games ... Monolith might miss that though, if they go crazy with the world size again. And yes, i doubt that the 3rd push for that, at least not on a single Nintendo system.

Comes time, comes E³. This is the detail stuff i'm expecting at E³ earliest.

It will almost certainly have 4k output, modern GPUs just do, the device will be powerful enough for 4k video playback as well and netflix, amazon, ect exist. As for games, if it outputs in 4k, games can be made in 4k, but I expect Nintendo to target 1080p. Some indies might go for 4k though. Again 4k is just a standard of modern technology right now, it has little to do with power.
I'm not into GPUs and whatever feature-sets they have or what sort of changes could be made on them, but is it possible for them to go with a slighty changed GPU that doesn't offer 4K output for something else? Again, not into the hardware business.
 
You misunderstood, I am saying Smash, Splatoon and Mario Maker were originally planned to have less DLC support than they eventually got, because Nintendo needed to prompt up the Wii U without offering those Wii U games they moved to NX, I'm saying these things already happened, and not that they are going to continue, NX launches this year as far as I can tell, so there is no need to support Wii U much longer after E3, and I'm a Wii U owner.
I think Sakurai would have supported Smash with DLC regardless, & Splatoon's major DLC support time wasn't nearly as long as you'd think. As for Super Mario Maker, I don't think we've received a massive update in a while beyond new costumes & stages to go with said costumes.
 
IIRC, Golden week is a huge shopping week. I'm fairly sure last year there were significant discounts on the eShop for Golden Week. I think it would be unlikely that Nintendo would announce their next generation console in a week where they are trying to get people to spend on the current generation :P

Right, exactly. All the more indication they wouldn't announce then. (I was saying GW, like Memorial Day, would be an odd time for an announcement with people out of the office and on vacation.) By not a big news week I meant not a typical time to announce.

I can see how it might've come off as me saying "easy time to announce since nobody else will be making news," sorry for being unclear. All I actually meant was that in not being a typically big news week for the reasons of people being out of work and on vacation, it would be a potentially unusual time to make big announcements.
 
I think Sakurai would have supported Smash with DLC regardless, & Splatoon's major DLC support time wasn't nearly as long as you'd think. As for Super Mario Maker, I don't think we've received a massive update in a while beyond new costumes & stages to go with said costumes.

You have to realize that the time period I'm taking you to is like Jan 2015, before Splatoon, before Mario Maker, and before the first DLC Smash character, I don't doubt that these games would have gotten DLC, I'm saying that it wouldn't have been as much. I think Smash might have added 2 or 3 DLC characters, heck the whole voting thing was after this time, so I think that makes sense for these games.

I'm not into GPUs and whatever feature-sets they have or what sort of changes could be made on them, but is it possible for them to go with a slighty changed GPU that doesn't offer 4K output for something else? Again, not into the hardware business.

It might actually cost them more, if the architecture has the bandwidth for 4k, but they make changes to it to remove that bandwidth, it could be a customization that costs them more than leaving it there, it shouldn't effect the price much for the console to support 4k out, and I don't see why they would remove it, I mean I think even amazon firetv supports 4k out now.
 
It's not too far fetched to be honest.

Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 is almost finished. All rumors point to Zelda coming to NX.

Retro Studio's last game was published in February 2014 right? So they probably wrapped up development on the game back in 2013. So I bet we'll see their next game release sometime in 2017.

That's already shaping up to be a pretty solid year 1 for NX.
 
If predominately handheld teams are contributing to NX (shared architecture afterall), I can see it.

Same. The handheld output from third parties (at least in Japan) has been pretty good the past decade imo.
Declined since the DS days obviously, but still alright to me
 
Still not that impressive.

So... a first year on the market with more/better games than:

Pikmin
Mario Kart
Deus Ex
3D World
Mario Maker
Xenoblade
Cpt Toad
ZombiU
NFS
Splatoon
Bayonetta
Wonderful 101
Splinter Cell
Assassins Creed
Batman
Fifa
Lego City Stories
Zelda
Call of Duty
Mass Effect
Fatal Frame
...

...woud not impress you?
 
It's not too far fetched to be honest.

Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 is almost finished. All rumors point to Zelda coming to NX.

Retro Studio's last game was published in February 2014 right? So they probably wrapped up development on the game back in 2013. So I bet we'll see their next game release sometime in 2017.

That's already shaping up to be a pretty solid year 1 for NX.
The Console Mario team is ready to show off their game, and launch wouldn't be out of the question since it has been 3 years there.

Animal Crossing could be coming in 2017

Luigi's Mansion 3 (LM2 sold almost 5 million copies) or some other next level games title is coming to NX (moved from Wii U)

Mario Kart 9 could happen in 2017... there is a lot of stuff that should be going on and that is without talking about third party exclusives, which are going to continue as far as I can tell.
 
The Console Mario team is ready to show off their game, and launch wouldn't be out of the question since it has been 3 years there.

Animal Crossing could be coming in 2017

Luigi's Mansion 3 (LM2 sold almost 5 million copies) or some other next level games title is coming to NX (moved from Wii U)

Mario Kart 9 could happen in 2017... there is a lot of stuff that should be going on and that is without talking about third party exclusives, which are going to continue as far as I can tell.

That's all I need.

I also expect Luigi's Mansion 3 to be a launch title.
 
Right, exactly. All the more indication they wouldn't announce then. (I was saying GW, like Memorial Day, would be an odd time for an announcement with people out of the office and on vacation.) By not a big news week I meant not a typical time to announce.

I can see how it might've come off as me saying "easy time to announce since nobody else will be making news," sorry for being unclear. All I actually meant was that in not being a typically big news week for the reasons of people being out of work and on vacation, it would be a potentially unusual time to make big announcements.

The timing is a litte bit strange. Im sure the main reason why they havent releaved the NX yet is the negative impact on their 3ds/wii u sales. Nintendo is a profitdriven company and wants to maximize their income.

At the same time they set the their fiscal result briefing closely to the golden week even if they could have released their financial statement in mid may. Nintendo knows they have to talk there about their future and explain the NX to their shareholders.

Thats why Im expecting a direct either this week or on the 26th.
 
It's the first console in history that will have a great&big library @ launch.
So that means he is joking or that he hates N.

Someone made a NX mockup:
https://i.imgur.com/zFJdy8f.jpg[/ur...tube.com/watch?v=fNwrw_Sh_g4&feature=youtu.be


Can we trust him?

That mock up looks awesome.
 
I really miss some co-op games, triforce is one of them that I can play on the 3ds.
Problem with triforce is that it isn't a full zelda game. It are mor challenges. I would like to have it like secret of mania, but online, so i can play it with a friend together.

Hope to see Co-op games like zelda, starfox... comming to the nx console or/and handheld.
 
Guy's she said this exact same thing to me and several others in the convo on Twitter which was part of a bigger discussion about how Nintendo might handle their software and shared library.

I don't doubt she may also have other information, but this is more her belief and not some leak. She'll have an article up some time soon about Nintendo's software choices. It could even discuss the wrong things fans are asking for too, like a 100% shared library as it would make things redundant and boring since this isn't the disposable smartphone market.

Just to clarify, which of her Zelda and NX info is speculation and which is information that she's designating as factual?
 
Just to clarify, which of her Zelda and NX info is speculation and which is information that she's designating as factual?

I think he's referring to her statement about the NX library's first year = Wii U four year's library.
 
Mock up insinuates that the games are on carts, yes? I know that it's not real but is that feasible?
It's feasible and highly speculated to be true. It would make sharing libraries between the handheld and console possible at a physical level.
 
Mock up insinuates that the games are on carts, yes? I know that it's not real but is that feasible?

Somewhat. Flash memory is getting cheaper all the time, but certainly not cheaper than discs. But the main benefit is the loss of a disc drive, which would like take a nice chunk of cost out of the console. But this could potentially result in games being more expensive.

The whole "shared library" speculation also adds some fuel to this as well, since it would make sense for them to only rely on one media standard going forward instead of two. Also a patent was found sometime back that did not include a disc drive. So it's certainly not baseless speculation, but it could still go the other way at this point.
 
3rd party games are only system sellers on the market leader. Just ask XB1 why 3rd parties aren't selling as well on their platform, it is literally selling based on exclusives, timed exclusives and the xbox branding, and even then it isn't enough for Microsoft. It would be even worse of a system seller on Nintendo's platform.

Nintendo can support their own platform they just can't support 2. together their platforms have sold ~70 Million devices, a far cry from DS and Wii but these are in line with PS3 or 360, so if NX absorbs both platforms and offer similar library of titles to both the 3DS and Wii U, but in it's newer versions, there is no reason that Nintendo has to bow out of the market or bend to becoming a knock off of the Playstation 4. No one really wants that, not even hardcore Nintendo fans.

NX needs to simply be focused on offering an alternative to Microsoft and Sony, not 2 alternatives.

There are some third party titles that are selling equivalent or better than ps4. Family titles are doing better on the bone as well I believe.

This is because the Xbox can sell third party titles. Most Nintendo home consoles outside Wii (not handhelds) have demonstrated that third party titles don't exactly do gang busters on them. That's why that support is so low. Not silly things like power and architecture. Those are things that companies work around if they believe there is sufficient return on investment

60fps will not be standard in the foreseeable future because regardless of power companies want to push their games visuals as far as they can go, and then a bit more.

This.

Mock up insinuates that the games are on carts, yes? I know that it's not real but is that feasible?

Carts are feasible yeah

Wii U never had a new Zelda game tho. Or a Mario 64/Galaxy style game.

Those 2 Mario styles are entirely different from each other, and 3D world is much more related to galaxy than it is 64 or sunshine. But you knew that already
 
So... a first year on the market with more/better games than:

Pikmin
Mario Kart
Deus Ex
3D World
Mario Maker
Xenoblade
Cpt Toad
ZombiU
NFS
Splatoon
Bayonetta
Wonderful 101
Splinter Cell
Assassins Creed
Batman
Fifa
Lego City Stories
Zelda
Call of Duty
Mass Effect
Fatal Frame
...

...woud not impress you?

It would impress me. There was a thread some months ago about the best launch or first year line up...and I think I gave the nod to the Wii U. I know it was on a short list that I agreed with.

Edit: it was this thread:

Which console would you choose if you could only play launch titles?
 
Really, really hope so. I have the GCN launch in my memory, and LM was godly. I don't play portable games so it's been some time too. 15 years!!! I don't believe it.

Oh my, you missed out. LM2 is so much better than the first.
 
It looks more like the offspring of a Dreamcast with a (white) WiiU and a (PAL) SNES to me.

I think it looks alright but i'm no "fan" of the oversized and accentuated vent.
I am if the specs are high. I want proper cooling. I'm not gonna see the sides anyway. All that matters is the front and top to me.
 
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