If that's the case then they need more mainline Final Fantasy games on their system.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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If that's the case then they need more mainline Final Fantasy games on their system.
DrROBschiz
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Wiiu had a built in Mic
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Don't forget that Miitomo blocks you from using it on rooted Android phones. I guarantee you the same will be true for this app.
breveglieri
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You put the headset in your left ear and hear the game sound in mono, only in your right ear
Switch is bringing everything that made GameBoy a success, including mono audio... oh, wait
Game audio is going to be streamed to your phone separate from the image on the TV? What kind of wizard magic is being used to sync everything up with all the latency?
People need to purge this interview from their memories. Pretend it didn't happen. Just read this link.
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/
It won't make everything crystal clear, but I think people will get a better idea of what the app is for.
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/
It won't make everything crystal clear, but I think people will get a better idea of what the app is for.
Wouldn't you need a headset even if on the phone unless you're using speakerphone? And if that's the case the Switch would have been just fine using it's speakers? ��
The Online Services page to me seems more accurate in what it entails for now.
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/
Note how "Online Lobby & Voice Chat app" is separated entirely from "Online Gameplay". Unless that somehow means "randoms only", the app just seems to me as if it's their answer to party lobbies, which is in no way ideal but not anywhere near as terrible as "you need your phone to play online and that's it".
MarkMclovin
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No, it'll come from the Switch.
Is your problem with the fact you're plugging your earphones into a phone, or that fact that you might want to chat to mates, play online, hear the game audio all while outside?
Most online gaming will be done at your home. Your game volume will be coming from your TV and you chat will be, via your phone, to your earpiece. Just like the PS4.
You're picking holes in something that is barely any different that what you do now.
I will post what I posted in other thread...
Okay, anyone defending Nintendo on this needs to stop.
IT'S NOT INNOVATIVE. Because both your competitions provide smart phone apps (on top of onboard console functionality) that basically does the same thing sans voice chat.
IT'S NOT ELEGANT. Because having to juggle two devices to do the same things will never be more elegant than using just one.
Okay, anyone defending Nintendo on this needs to stop.
IT'S NOT INNOVATIVE. Because both your competitions provide smart phone apps (on top of onboard console functionality) that basically does the same thing sans voice chat.
IT'S NOT ELEGANT. Because having to juggle two devices to do the same things will never be more elegant than using just one.
moltonasty
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I love how in one of the interviews Reggie talks about the reasons the Wii U failed, and how third parties want a robust and fully featured online service, which the Wii U lacked.
Then they give us this...lol. Yeah using two devices to do what the OG Xbox could handle back in 2002 is super robust Reggie.
Then they give us this...lol. Yeah using two devices to do what the OG Xbox could handle back in 2002 is super robust Reggie.
Matchmaking is a peer-to-peer (or sometimes dedicated servers) system where the game software connects you to a random person so as to minimize lag and connectivity issues.
My Vita does it fine without a phone.
You really didnt think your shitty analogy through did you?
I'd be willing to be its the opposite that the app sends the voice chat to the Switch.
Zombie James
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Exclusive look at the first person playing Nintendo Switch online:
If only I had video editing skills.
LordOcidax
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After reading some comments... I just want to read some ideas of how this could work (Online multiplayer on the Go) without the use of an Smartphone or a exclusive sim card for the Switch.. It needs to be simple (Like undocking the Switch)... I have the feeling that when Nintendo shows a video of how this works is going to be fine. I Still dont see any problem with this....
Okami Haundo
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I really don't understand why Reggie decided to start talking about the app now. It won't be out until summer so I doubt we'll get concrete details on how that works any time soon.
Yes, and that's almost certainly not what Reggie was referring to. See the link above.
jts
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Funny, because what's at stake is that the console lacks the front end, which is handled by smart devices, rather than the infrastructure.
Did they also not want to invest in an online infrastructure for Netflix? Or maybe is this console just very barebones when it comes to the OS? Hm...
Conversely, you could boot your console, enter a game, and then just do all that in 30 seconds before you play.
DrROBschiz
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sometimes ill use my phone to tether my Vita online.
its simpler. i hit a button on my phone to make it an access point and do everything else on my vita. i can just leave my phone plugged in somewhere and not touch it
Nintendo wants you to be constantly juggling both while playing online
see the difference? you dont strip features out of the damn system and offload them to a phone
its fucking asinine
Well, I don't know, but you can control all your system when you remote play so I assume you can also use voice chat remotely. I've never done it myself though.
Ay? it's a handheld first and foremost, you may play online mostly at home, but I think a lot of other people might want to do what the system was built for.
They may want to hear the game audio as well as the chat
Keeping your head in the sand because of this interview isnt going to help anything when there are several other instance where Reggie, and even Nintendo's website, line up with this interview.
Read this collection of quotes Azyless posted:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228670270&postcount=3384
Duxxy3
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Happened to me too.
I was so excited after that teaser video.
Then I saw the price, and lack of pack in. Then the software lineup. More and more gimmicks, again. Then the so called network.
I thought we were getting a relatively powerful handheld that could be docked. It was going to have an amazing lineup, because Nintendo abandoned the Wii U. What else would all of their developers be doing? I thought $250 was a near lock for price. Maybe a $299 deluxe bundle.
And I figured if they were offering the same shitty network that it would at least be free.
The more and more I learn about what the Switch actually is, the more disappointed I become in it.
This is quite literally an objectively worse solution than if people at least had the option to party/matchmake on the Switch itself. I can guarantee you that if this option was available, 99% of people would prefer using it over the super-awesome smartphone app solution. So when people in here say this is a dumbass idea, why are people arguing?
You'd still be able to do that if this was built into the OS. But you wouldn't have to put your earphones into your phone
How in the fuck is me having to plug my headphones+earphones while i have to put my smartphone in a area where it can decently capture my voice while playing the switch with my two hands "barely any different"? Holy shit.
You're also the one that fucking started with the bus situation to begin with if you somehow forgot that. Stop moving those goalposts.
Also this.
Because a few holdouts are praising this as a genius move. I shit you not.
breveglieri
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The flurry of bad news, terrible interviews and lack of information reminds me of the first days/weeks after XB1 was announced
And we all know how that turned out, sales wise
And we all know how that turned out, sales wise
Okami Haundo
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To be fair, we don't have details that suggest you need to constantly juggle the two. It's up to Nintendo to dispel claims that we'll need to "Switch" to our smartphone every 5 to 10 minutes to set something else up.
It still sucks though. Why should we have to juggle with our phone's battery life to play some games online?
It's not even launching with the system?! Smh
I strangely like companion apps but this should only be an option. I mean with how many people in the PSN 2FV threads saying they don't have a smartphone(You don't need a smartphone, just text messaging. PLEASE SIGN UP!!!) there are obviously a large number of people even within the bubble of Gaf that don't have them but play a lot of games.
IDK, maybe they will add on device support at some point. Not a big deal for myself though.
IDK, maybe they will add on device support at some point. Not a big deal for myself though.
What are you talking about? I'm linking to that so people get a better understanding of the service. I'm not defending anything. The very post you linked to uses information from the link I provided. Think before you post.
I mean, most of these quotes have to do with voice chat, not so much the matchmaking portion, which is still muddled.
RichiRamjag
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That doesn't bring much new info tbh.
It's a great idea as an add-on. Terrible as the primary.
Interfectum
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You are the one that posed this scenario:
No one is picking holes, you are just moving goalposts.
Also, PS4 has the functionality to pump both voice chat and game audio through the headphones if you want, which I use a lot. Docked Switch can't even do that.
breveglieri
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Welcome to my life since the Nintendo 64
moltonasty
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No voice chat until the app comes out. So if you want to voice chat while playing Mario Kart 8 online you'll be using another app or service anyway. Or, I guess just call your friend.
Elegant af.
Okami Haundo
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Nope! The "free trial" of the online service begins in March, but the app won't be out until Summer. This can mean one of two things:
- There is a way to handle chat via just the Switch itself and Reggie is doing a bad job at explaining things
- Prior to the summer, any online games won't have voice chat at all.
It could honestly see it happening either way...
Nintendo needs to let us know how things will work at launch as soon as possible. I doubt we'll see the app in March or April,.
That's not confirmed to be the case. But as stated above, Nintendo really needs to clarify this as soon as possible.
Kaiser Swayze
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So if my 9-year-old wants a Switch, he's now going to be asking fro a smart phone to go with it? Fat chance there.
RichiRamjag
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Did the Wii U version have voice chat? Not trying to be snarky, seriously would like to know.
LordOcidax
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Not even close.. XB1 news were in every big gaming sites... We didn't even see how this could work... Like i said before, we need to see this working.
It clarifies what the app is being used for, and when it will be released, which people in this thread are still currently expressing confusion about (no matchmaking without the app? the app releases when?). The point isn't to present new information, but to present the information that was muddled by this interview.
ThanksVision
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I use headphones for both in-game audio and voice chat because I don't want to bother other people in the house by playing stuff out loud on the speakers.
I've never owned a bluetooth headset, can I pair it to two separate devices and mix the audio via an app?
my god.
why am i even asking this. tf nintendo
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Nope. Well, it did, but only in lobbies.
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