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Relationship-GAF: please help, this girl is driving me crazy

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Agentnibs

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I need help guys...kinda long so cliffs are at the bottom

So a little back story, I met this girl about a year and half ago at work(let’s call her Susan). We hit it off and after a few months we started seeing each other more and more. Slowly we became friends with benefits but over time it definitely evolved into an actual relationship. Now I’ll be the first to admit that we’ve always had a strange relationship. For a long time I was trying to get over my ex of 5 years, and a lot of the time it wasn’t so fun for Susan. But she stuck around, and no matter what I was still with her almost every day. I want to just say that it wasn’t always easy for us, but for the vast majority of the time it was really good.

Now here’s where things get squirrely. After having been together for about 8 months, she goes out to party in November and meets this guy(We’ll call him Bill). At first it’s no big deal, at this point in time we’re seeing each other maybe 5 days a week and she’s spending the night almost every night. So the next day she tells me what happened and I was cool with it. I told her it was good she had a nice time and maybe next time we can all go out together. She agrees and we don’t really talk much about it after that. So as time goes on I’m still seeing her daily but I notice she’s texting a lot, and a few time I catch her taking photos to snapchat. At this point it’s been about a month and I still haven’t met this person, and it didn’t really bug me to much but over time the texting felt like it was getting excessive. Not to mention rude, that she’s chatting with someone else while she’s spending time with me. I tell her about this, and she tells me she didn’t realize what she was doing and apologized. After that she kind of stopped but I knew she was still friends with the guy.

This happens for the rest of December, and after about two months of having been going through this I tell her that it’s annoying that I still haven’t met him and it’s starting to bug me. She tells me she’s sorry and we make up, but still nothing really changes. At this point I’ve learned that she’s been hanging out with him and some of his other friends when she’s not with me. It naturally makes me nervous.

In January, she goes through a meltdown. She told me that when she visited her parents they got on her for being a “disappointment”. She tells me this and then vanishes for two weeks, and when she returns she tells me about her plan. Her plan is nothing major and all it involves is her eating well, exercising, getting a new job, and going back to school. All really normal stuff, so I was happy for her. But then she tells me that because of this new plan she can’t see me as much. It hurt, but I trusted her and wanted the best for her so I told her I understood and that even though we would see each other less, we would still be together. So that went on for a bit until I started to notice that on the days she said she couldn’t see me, she was spending it with him. To her defense it was rarely just him, it was usually a group of people, but still it didn’t make me feel good. I confront her about it and I tell her that what she’s doing isn’t cool, I tell her I love her and I want to be with her but what she’s doing is putting me in bad place. She again says she’s sorry and agrees to work on it and so we make up and make plans for future dates.

The dates however are different, and things don’t feel the same as before. It’s also getting harder to see her, as every time I ask she has plans to do something. This only gets worse when I realize that she’s again spending more time with others. I confront her about it and ask her if something is going on. She tells me no, that they’re just friends. she gets really mad at me for accusing her and barely speaks to me for two weeks. So things are not well. and two weeks later she comes over to talk. We’re trying to figure out what’s going on, I tell her all sorts of things but eventually we agree that we’re still dating. We kiss and makeup and go on our way.

Things are still weird though, and it’s hard to talk her now. Everything starts to feel very tense but we both hold on. I make plans to see her the day after valentine’s day(because she hates valentine’s day. In her defense this was true the year before too), I even get her flowers, which she really likes and then she starts telling me about her week. She’s talking like she has nothing to hide and starts telling me about how her friend spent the night the day before valentine’s day(they had a party and he slept downstairs) and that she woke up to the smell of burning waffles. So they have waffles in the morning and then he leaves, but a few hours later he comes back and literally picks her up over his shoulder and made her go to the grocery store with him. It turns out he leaves again to spend the day with another girl, but it still makes me uncomfortable. Not wanting to ruin the day just as it started, we leave to go to Austin for our date. On the way I ask again to meet her friends, they sound nice and it can be a lot of fun. But this makes her angry and she bottles up and tells me we’ve talked about this before.

If I didn’t mention it before, she’s flat out refused to let me meet her friends. Sometimes it’s a weak excuse and then sometimes it’s just a flat out no. She tells me it’s for two reasons, the first is because she’s worried how I might react because she has a flirty relationship with him and others, and the second is because in her past relationships their friends always sided with her ex, leaving her alone. So she didn’t feel comfortable mixing her romantic relationship, with her platonic ones.

This infuriates me because it’s so shady. We fight on the way to Austin. I ask again, and she tells me that nothing is going on. Anyway things settle for a bit, and I still wanted to make the best of day so we continue the date. But as it’s going on I feel more and more drained, because all she has to talk about is him. By the end of the date I’ve all but given up. I’m an emotional wreck and she can see it, so we try to leave. But we end up just sitting in my car for about 3 hours where we just kinda look at each other and talk. Eventually I just explode and just let her have it, I tell her about how shitty she’s been, how suspicious this looks, how wrong it is for her to treat me this way…it just goes on and on. It gets so bad that I pull out of the parking lot without looking and smash my car on a pillar. It was just cosmetic damage so I drive away pissed. We check it out after a few minutes, and when I see it I just lose it. She ends up telling me that shes really sorry, and that she has been a complete asshole to me the last two months. She says she never should of gotten mad at me before, and that I have every right to hate her.

During the drive back it becomes pretty clear that things are over. We’re essentially saying our goodbyes all the way until we pull into her drive way. But before she gets up to leave she grabs my hand and places it on her face and just looks at me. Sad stuff is being said and then we kiss. We kiss for a while…and just before she leaves she tells me “talk to you tomorrow okay?”.

Things are very confusing. I ended going home for the next two days and skip work. I decide to bring my family dog with me to keep me company as I’m a wreck. We don’t talk all week until the next Saturday when I show up at her work to ask her to meet me on Monday so we can clarify things. She agreed to come.

Over the weekend my friends come to visit me, we go out one night and when we return around 2am I find my dog outside. Something’s wrong, she looks fine but she won’t get up. After picking her up and bringing her inside its apparent something happened. I run upstairs and see that the blinds in my window are torn and the window screen has a hole in it. Yes, she fell out of my window. When I took her to the vet they told me her back was broken, and that they needed to wait till the morning to see if anything could be done.

Needless to say I was a fucking mess, I called Susan around 4 in the morning telling her what happened, I asked if I could come over and she said yes. I proceeded to have a panic attack for the next 2 hours before we dozed off for a bit. In the morning I get a call from the vet telling me they had to put her down. Susan had to drive me home that morning but she didn’t stick around, as soon as she dropped me off she left. It was a terrible day.

I skip work again, and just drive for hours before returning home. Originally I asked if she would come over that Monday, so I ask again if she still would. So she came over and we talked, I told her about what happened and after sometime talked about what happened the week before. She was just silent and stared at me, after a while I said something along the lines of this is weird. At which point she jumped up next to me and says “I don’t care if it’s weird” and hugged me which led to her kissing me. We ended up doing that for a long time, so much so that clothes were coming off but we didn’t have sex. Eventually she has to leave so I walk her out and she kisses me good night and tells me she’ll talk to me soon.

It was just nice to have her care about me. The next week passes and not much changes, I text her and she hardly responds, and when I ask to see her she says she has plans. So the next Monday I call her to tell her that I’m done, I give up and can’t do this anymore. It felt like it took her by surprise and at the end of the call she asks me if she can come over the next day. I was pretty surprised, but GAF you gotta understand that I really love this girl and I really want things to work, so I said yes even though I feel like nothing was going to change.

She comes over and she’s acting really sweet, she tells me she misses me and starts being real flirty with me. It made me mad because I’ve been going crazy and here she is pretending like nothing is happening. To make a long story short though, we end up sleeping together. It was pretty awesome, and it was the first time we slept together in about 3 months. Soon after she says she has to leave, and around that time she starts getting all sorts of texts. I ask about it and she says that her friends are waiting for her outside her house and no one is there to let them in. It was weird; it felt like I was the other guy at that moment. She asks me to walk her out and before she gets in her car she hugs and kisses me good night.

It’s been over two weeks since that night and I haven’t seen her since. She’s actually texted me way more than before though, but that’s not really saying much. I end up getting very, very depressed. A few times I ask to see her but she’s busy like always. So this last Monday I call her, I was hoping it would be a good call but it ended up being pretty bad. For her at least, because I proceeded to spend the next 2 hours just bitching at her about how terrible she’s been to me, and how confusing she’s been. It was pretty bad. But even at the end when I started to run out of things to say she comes back to me with “I promise I’ll talk to you tomorrow”. I didn’t ask her to do that, she just did it. And when I told her not to bother she said she was going to do it anyway.

So the next day she tells me she feels terrible for how everything’s happened and how she’s acted. I’m pretty mad so I don’t really respond. The day after that I get this idea to give her one more chance, I tell her to skip her weekly swing dance to come visit me. It doesn’t sound like much I know, but this is something that she started to do regularly for months now. She goes with that guy and other people and every single time that I’ve asked to go, she would refuse. So to me it would mean a lot if she would skip this one thing to see me, which I don’t think is asking for much. I told her that if I really mattered to her and if I was really a priority she would have no issue. But she fights back and says that if she sees me all I’m going to do is get mad at her and she doesn’t want that to happen. hate to admit but that's fair. We talk for a while and I don’t even remember what I said when she suddenly asked if I want to go dancing with them.

I was stunned; I literally had no idea what to say. I just wanted to see her, but here she is inviting me to do something that I’ve never been allowed to do and meet the people that she’s refused to let me meet. And yes, he will be there.

So now I’m freaking out, the dance is later today and I’m really nervous. I have no idea what to expect. On one hand I’m worried I’ll make a scene or do something since I’ve grown to hate that guy out of jealousy. And on the other hand, I can’t help but wonder if she is really reaching out to me and trying to prove to me that she willing to try.

Also I’m terrible at dancing, and they’ve been doing this for months so I can’t compete there. I have no idea what to do or expect. Will this even change anything for me? Will it make things better or worse? Should I have just jumped ship ages ago...probably but here I am. She is the most confusing person ever; maybe I’m not helping but why even ask me to go if she really doesn’t want me around?

Tl;Dr (still long:()

-Met girL over a year ago

-Things are for the most part good. We fall in love with each other

-Meets this guy around November

-Originally no problem, but they start hanging out more and more

-She has mental breakdown, returns with a plan. Feels like I’m not a part of it but she still wants me around.

-Things change, it’s hard to see her or even talk to her. She’s spending more and more time with him and friends she met through him. She’s never lets me meet them, even after months of asking.

- Confront her about, says nothing is going on. No real proof but still so suspicious

- We keep trying to go out, but jealousy is really tough. It seems like she’s fallen for the guy but denies it multiple times. We have a really deep heart to heart, and it’s hard not believe her.

- Pretty much break up, except she kisses me right before she leaves. Took it as a goodbye. I’m devastated; went home brought family dog with me to keep me company.

- Dog jumps out of my window for no reason, breaks back and dies.

- Even more of mess, go to her for help. She helps. Week passes, she’s at my house and we end up all over each other. Another week passes, at my house again and we sleep together.

- two week pass, she’s talking to me more but it’s not a lot.

- Call her and unload everything that I’ve been feeling. She feels bad. Tells me she feels terrible for how she’s been acting.

- Decide to give her one final attempt to prove that she cares. Tell her to skip her weekly swing dance, a thing that she’s been doing for months and has refused to ever let me go. She ends up inviting me instead, and lets me meet her friends including the guy that I’ve had so many suspicions about. This will be the first time I’ve ever meet him. It’s been months.

Gaf, wtf is going on?
 

Akronis

Member
Leave her, bro. She isn't worth constant emotional distress. Find someone else who treats you with respect.
 

Mesoian

Member
You two are licking each other's wounds. While that's good for the short term, it's not a relationship that is ever going to go anywhere. You need to start looking elsewhere. She certainly has. It sounds like you're the side dude right now.

Sorry about your dog.
 
Get. The. Fuck. Away. From. Her.

She's NOT worth it man. Find a girl who won't give you the emotional runaround.

Sorry about your dog. :(
 
That was the most confusing, fucked up relationship I've ever read on GAF.

I would say "leave her", but from an outside view points you guys haven't even really been going out for a while now.

This shit isn't going to get better, just look at the cycle you wrote out. You need to stop seeing her, she's doing way more harm than good. She's giving you the runaround like stated above.
 
Sounds like a whole bunch of drama that you don't need.

Pretty much. Life has as much bullshit as it is. Relationships should make things better because you know you always have someone to make you feel better and vice versa. Not make your life worse, lol.
 

Marc13

Member
Deal with a months worth of heartache rather than staying in the relationship and having years worth of bullshit.
 

Agentnibs

Member
You two are licking each other's wounds. While that's good for the short term, it's not a relationship that is ever going to go anywhere. You need to start looking elsewhere. She certainly has. It sounds like you're the side dude right now.

Sorry about your dog.

I know it really kinda feels like that. there's all sorts weird bullshit things but from the sounds of (and this is from other people too) they are really just friends. Apparently he's talked about people he's gone out with in front of her. And if things really are going on why would she invite me to do this? Is it a trap?
 
You two are licking each other's wounds. While that's good for the short term, it's not a relationship that is ever going to go anywhere. You need to start looking elsewhere. She certainly has. It sounds like you're the side dude right now.

Sorry about your dog.
Wise words here, OP.
 
What's the part you need advice on here? She's getting away with everything because you let her. She doesn't invite you to things but invites some other guy every time, and you need help with this situation? lol Jesus.
 

Log4Girlz

Member
I know it really kinda feels like that. there's all sorts weird bullshit things but from the sounds of (and this is from other people too) they are really just friends. Apparently he's talked about people he's gone out with in front of her. And if things really are going on why would she invite me to do this? Is it a trap?

Don't question it, you're the side dude now move on.
 

terrisus

Member
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Mesoian

Member
I know it really kinda feels like that. there's all sorts weird bullshit things but from the sounds of (and this is from other people too) they are really just friends. Apparently he's talked about people he's gone out with in front of her. And if things really are going on why would she invite me to do this? Is it a trap?

Let's put it this way, in the immortal words of Chris Rock, "Ladies, if you have been dating a guy for 6 months, and haven't met any of his friends, you are not his girlfriend." That goes both ways.

As for why she's keeping you around, it's easier to hold onto the known then be alone and forage ahead. It's why people stay in bad relationships. In any case, she doesn't consider you to be important enough to expend the emotional energy upon, and that's poison for a relationship.

It's time to stop worrying about what she's doing and move forward because what you have with her right now is just a loop of hurt feelings and pity sex.
 

Agentnibs

Member
This is why I came to you guys, so many time I get stuck in my head and start doubting myself. Even when it's so fucking obvious. The thing is I already said I would go, and I think I really want to fucking go. I'm curious, and I feel like I need to know what's really going on. Yes, it seems obvious but there's still to much doubt in my head. Not knowing has been killing me.
 

Salamando

Member
She's been friends with this guy for five months now, doesn't spend time with you so she can hang out with him, and has refused to let you meet him until recently? And you're asking us what to do?

Bail. Bail quickly. Delete her number, and move on.
 

Meatfist

Member
Move on, I don't know if you're a side dude or what but you don't have 100% commitment from her and you shouldn't really settle with anything less. Sorry about your dog :(
 
Worst part of the story was your dog. Sorry :(

Second worst part was 3 months of no sex. Seriously, time to man up and leave her. She has all the power and only keeps you around because she gets all the emotional love from you without giving up any physical love. Terrible imbalance that works for her and not for you.
 

Agentnibs

Member
Yeah, thanks by the way about my dog. Her name was gypsy and she was beautiful. I have no idea why she did that. It literally felt like God was picking on me at that point. Things got really dark for a while..
 
This is why I came to you guys, so many time I get stuck in my head and start doubting myself. Even when it's so fucking obvious. The thing is I already said I would go, and I think I really want to fucking go. I'm curious, and I feel like I need to know what's really going on. Yes, it seems obvious but there's still to much doubt in my head. Not knowing has been killing me.
You realise they put away murderers without the guilty admitting to the fact they did it, you can do the same without her telling you directly she's been banging the other guy for the past 5 months. ..
 

lydia

Neo Member
Sounds like you're both scared of breaking up in case it goes back to how it was before she met this guy etc but it won't.

Break up. You'll both feel better for it (eventually).

Sorry about your dog.
 

Maximo

Member
So much Drama it's not worth it man, relationships have their ups and downs by this is ridiculous levels. Idk what to say that hasn't already been said in this thread before, GAF is usually right.
 
Yeah, thanks by the way about my dog. Her name was gypsy and she was beautiful. I have no idea why she did that. It literally felt like God was picking on me at that point. Things got really dark for a while..
Dogs do that. Sometimes they have separation anxiety when you aren't there, or they get scared by something, or they want to go outside to catch something, and they'll rip through mesh screens to get out.

At my last apartment, I had a dog break through a window mesh and fall some 20 feet, onto concrete. Luckily for us, he was (somehow) completely fine after that, but I make sure all windows are closed now when I go out.
 

Palpable

Member
If you're not her first choice, then don't bother. It seems like she is split between you and this guy. That should never happen. If you are not her #1 by a long shot, then forget her.

I know that is not easy. I'm learning this the hard way, still. My ex left me for another guy and blames me as the bad guy for her leaving, says our relationship was bad (it wasn't), and she refuses to talk to me anymore. It's the worst pain in the entire world, but I suppose I'm getting used to it.

Fact of the matter is that if you're not her first, then why bother?
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
I'm usually against the default GAF relationship advice but this is definitely one where the common wisdom prevails.

I'll be gentle and say you're putting in way more than you're getting back, and that's no fair. Don't be ok with it, you've tried to change it and you haven't. Move on. It's not easy but you must. Love and learn man.

Deeply sorry about the dog. That's the real heartbreaker here. :(
 

stn

Member
I stopped reading halfway through because I decided it was just too much, it was just heart-wrenching to read. Dude, stop torturing yourself. You have to respect yourself more in situations like these. Believe me when I say I understand its hard when you like someone. Lots of us have been there, man. But you've been treated like shit for a long time and yet you just allowed it to happen. Do you want to be with someone who treats you like shit? There are many things that can be said but I'll just say this: move on. In answering your questions...

1.Will this even change anything for me?
Nope.

2.Will it make things better or worse?
Worse. Just wait.

3.She is the most confusing person ever; maybe I’m not helping but why even ask me to go if she really doesn’t want me around?
She's not confusing, you're just constantly pressing and making her feel guilty. She doesn't want you there.

Anything less than you not going to that dance and I'm gonna say its all one big fail. Please don't go, for the love of fuck.
 

Arcadius

Banned
Straight up made me cry. You seem like a really good guy, but this girl your with, my oh my. I wish you the best of luck in future relationships, you need a woman who can care for you as you care for them.

Really sorry about your dog.

A lot of emotional wreckage has been upon you, slayed me to read it all.
 

Ishida

Banned
BAIL.

Believe me. Bail NOW. I've been there before with the whole "friend" thing (And in my case, a new "friend", among other things...).

Yeah. It leads to NOWHERE good for you.

It will drain you, weaken you and eventually harm you. The girl will make you wait, she will give you non-answers, hide information from you or just plain lie.

Look for a girl who is emotionally stable and mature. You deserve better. I had to learn it the hard way. There are PLENTY of great girls out there who are willing to commit to a good, mature and serious relationship. Don't waste your time, energy and feelings on someone who keeps fucking up things and asking for forgiveness time and time again.

Cheer up, bro. Check GAF's advice and move on. You will be a lot happier later, I guarantee.
 

McLovin

Member
Sounds like she broke up with you when she made that plan. Why would you want to be with a cheater anyway? Move on dude.
 

Kyne

Member
Sorry about your dog.

Yeah, this girl has been cheating on you for months. Sorry mate.

Unfortunately you won't listen to 99.99% of the posts here and you'll still go, get hurt, do the dance (metaphorically) and then you'll be back within a couple of months/years with a post of how things are finally over and you admit GAF was right.

or you can listen to us, NOT go tonight, and cut off ALL contact.
 

Grzi

Member
You're a good guy, she's immature, those two don't mesh well.

If you can't be a dick towards her (and you shouldn't try to be something you're not), which is most likely the way to make yourself interesting to her, leave her. You'll find a mature girl who won't take advantage of you being a good guy and consider that a weakness, which this chick obviously does. Respect yourself more, and don't worry, a lot of people go through this kind of relationship.

Sorry about the dog.
 

SpyGuy239

Member
BAIL.

Believe me. Bail NOW. I've been there before with the whole "friend" thing (And in my case, a new "friend", among other things...).

Yeah. It leads to NOWHERE good for you.

It will drain you, weaken you and eventually harm you. The girl will make you wait, she will give you non-answers, hide information from you or just plain lie.

Look for a girl who is emotionally stable and mature. You deserve better. I had to learn it the hard way. There are PLENTY of great girls out there who are willing to commit to a good, mature and serious relationship. Don't waste your time, energy and feelings on someone who keeps fucking up things and asking for forgiveness time and time again.

Cheer up, bro. Check GAF's advice and move on. You will be a lot happier later, I guarantee.

SOLID ADVICE. I WOULD TAKE IT.
 

Ishida

Banned
Sorry about your dog.

Yeah, this girl has been cheating on you for months. Sorry mate.

Unfortunately you won't listen to 99.99% of the posts here and you'll still go, get hurt, do the dance (metaphorically) and then you'll be back within a couple of months/years with a post of how things are finally over and you admit GAF was right.

or you can listen to us, NOT go tonight, and cut off ALL contact.

This.

I normally don't listen to GAF's opinions either, but Relationship-GAF seems to have a pretty amazing record, and I can join in with the consensus of ditching her and moving on.
 

Agentnibs

Member
Damn it you guys, I think these things but it's really nice to hear other people say it. I have to go to therapy today, and I know I shouldn't but I really want to go To the dance.

Its probably not going to change anything, but I want to see it with my own eyes. I want to meet this dude and see what he's all about. I'm angry, sometimes I want to fight.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
A) Sounds like she's torn and doesn't know what to do, or

B) That she wants to be with "Bill" but doesn't want to be the one to break up with you (for her own ego / self-pity), and is doing what she can to get you to break up with her, so she can have a "clear conscience" with a healthy does of denial.

Regardless of what you do; just take care of yourself, and realize you can't predict or control anything beyond just yourself and your actions.
 

stn

Member
Its probably not going to change anything, but I want to see it with my own eyes. I want to meet this dude and see what he's all about. I'm angry, sometimes I want to fight.
Don't be stupid, man. You have everyone here telling you to bail and NOT go to the dance. Any sensible person would tell you this. What more convincing do you need? What do you want, to go fight some random guy because your ex likes him more? All that will accomplish is that one of you will get beat up. And if its you you'll just feel worse. Stop the madness, man.
 
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