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Prospero

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I watched Terminator 2 this weekend for the first time in several years, and it took me back to summer 1991. Nowadays hype for movies is something we're used to, to the point where we (especially people who hang out online) pretty much expect it for most big-budget films--in fact, it seems like every summer blockbuster gets so much hype that none of them end up standing out from each other in the end. But there was nothing like the hype for Terminator 2 in my memory. You would think that the prints of the film were being hand-delivered to the theaters by Jesus Christ Himself.

Oh my God--the movie's going to have a new song by Guns' 'n' Roses.

Oh my God--rumor is that it's the most expensive movie ever made. There are chase scenes where they destroyed, like, one hundred cars or something.

Oh my God--I heard that Schwarzenegger is the good guy this time, and the villain is even more badass than the one in the original Terminator.

Oh my God--there's going to be a new kind of visual effect in the movie that we've never seen before, called "morphing." They use computers to do it!! It takes, like, six months to finish a single shot, but it looks real. (And six months later "morphing" was in every single movie and TV show that could come up with a pretext for including it.)

Oh my God--that woman from Beauty and the Beast is in it, and now she's totally ripped.

The friend of mine that I watched the movie with was just a little too young to have been subjected to all of that, so whenever she saw the T-1000 transform his hands into knives or shapeshift or whatever, she would just shrug and wonder what the big deal is. I said, "You don't understand! Whenever you see something like that, you should be thinking--holy shit! It's morphing! I've never seen that before!"

P.S. A note about the DVD--I watched the Artisan T2 Ultimate Edition DVD that came out several years ago, in the special metal box (but it's two DVD-9s, not a single DVD-18). With respect to audio and video quality, that's still one of the best DVDs I own, even measured against my most recent purchases. The video is especially unbelievable.

P.P.S. "I know now why you cry. But it is something I can never do."
 
I went and saw it three times the first month it came out. I never do that with movies.

One of my favorite scenes was the Sarah Connor "dream sequence". Where the world gets nuked, and her body gets fried while holding onto a fence. Very powerful images.
 
Just heard the Guns N Roses song on the radio on the way to work "You Could Be Mine"

and it got me pumped to watch T2 in a few weeks when my wife and kids go to Michigan for the week... NICE!

I love that movie... it is in my Top 10 and maybe Top 5...
 
Also saw it in theaters a couple of times.

My brother back then had a laserdisc player so when it came out on that 6 months later, it was a big deal. The year before that, we had gotten Total Recall and it was just an excuse to turn the volume up and just listen to explosions and gun fires in crystal clarity. The special edition of T2 Laserdisc was also a carbon copy of the DVD you refered to in terms of features.
 
One of my favourite movies of all time. Just perfect mix of action, story and characters you actually care about.

It's funny to see the Sega arcade games in the movie now. "Slightly" dated ;)
 
I actually saw this movie while on vacation at the beach. Normally I would never go to the movies while at the beach but it rained one day and that was pretty much all that there was to do. I'm glad I saw it in the theater and not at home.

T2 instantly became one of my favorite movies of all time and I've probably watched it dozens of times in subsequent years. I used to like it more than T1 but after watching T1 again a few times I actually like it better than the second one now.

And lets not even talk about T3. After T1 and T2, T3 was a complete and utter disappointment to me because they decided to re-write certain aspects of the story (John's age in T2 and a bunch of other things that drove me nuts when I watched it), they cut away from a lot of the TX's kills, and it didn't even have the freaking Terminator theme until the credits
 
I have to say that I don't think we'll ever again see the same kind of anticipation for a movie that Prospero described -- there's too much of a media barrage for any major movie these days...
 
My favourite movie of all time.

When the T800 & T1000 meet up for the first time, tussle, then the chase.... what a rocking scene.

Own multiple versions on DVD, holding off on the PSP version. HD and Blue Ray Hell Yes !

"I need a vacation"
 
The best part of T2 is when he takes the grenade launcher and tries to gib his adversary in the chest. The T1000 just stands there and looks at him. Total badass sequence.
 
Terminator 2 was an event for my friends and me. I remember there was a "sneak preview advance screening" the day before it officially opened (Thursday night at 10pm) So we ended up watching Terminator 1 on VHS in the morning, went over to the theater at fucking 1 pm and lined up for the movie so we could be first in line. We waited 9 damn hours in line, but it was fun.

Ah back in the day when I had nothing to do...
 
Prospero said:
P.S. A note about the DVD--I watched the Artisan T2 Ultimate Edition DVD that came out several years ago, in the special metal box (but it's two DVD-9s, not a single DVD-18). With respect to audio and video quality, that's still one of the best DVDs I own, even measured against my most recent purchases. The video is especially unbelievable.



You should really get the Extreme Edition of T2, then. The new transfer is a lot better than the one on the Ultimate Edition, even though it was good for it's time.
 
Now that I think about it, there's probably no movie that I've watched more times than T2, what on my own, what with friends, sometimes few times over with same friends so that we can make jokes, find goofs, enjoy details in effects, etc.

Oh my God--there's going to be a new kind of visual effect in the movie that we've never seen before, called "morphing." They use computers to do it!! It takes, like, six months to finish a single shot, but it looks real. (And six months later "morphing" was in every single movie and TV show that could come up with a pretext for including it.)
To this day, effects in T2 have to be some of the most well thought and visceral. So many movies felt into the trap of having just eye candy, but the eye candy in T1000 made sense and was used for a good measure and with interesting ideas.

Also, off topic, but am I the only one who thinks that to this day the face morphing sequence from Michael Jackson's "Black or White" video was never even matched, much less bested?
 
Aww hells yeah! T2 rocked back then and I can't change the channel whenever they're showing it on television.

I'd say T2 was Cameron's best movie, and Arnold's best role.
 
Yeah, Terminator 1 remains better in my eyes, but Terminator 2 is still a hell of a movie...just a different kind of movie.
 
Marconelly said:
To this day, effects in T2 have to be some of the most well thought and visceral. So many movies felt into the trap of having just eye candy, but the eye candy in T1000 made sense and was used for a good measure and with interesting ideas.

Yeah, the thing that makes the visual effects work in T2 is that (a) they're always essential to the story and (b) Cameron didn't use post-production effects unless he absolutely couldn't do it any other way. He didn't CG the melted bits of the T1000 coming back together after it was hit with liquid nitrogen, because he could just do the same thing with drops of mercury and show the footage in reverse. He didn't use miniatures when he could send a real tractor trailer cab flying off a bridge. I look at chase scenes in films like Matrix Reloaded, and it makes me miss that kind of action filmmaking.
 
I heard that James Cameron said that T4's going to make even less logical sense than the first 3 movies combined. Can't wait.

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At the beginning of the movie when the T800 steps on the skull and looks around was some badass shit.
 
Jeffahn said:
I heard that James Cameron said that T4's going to make even less logical sense than the first 3 movies combined. Can't wait.

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Link? Haven't seen any such thing, though you may be right.

Anyway, there's been very little word about T4 lately... it was originally planned for summer '06, but is now reportedly planned for 2007 or 2008. None of the T3 cast is returning (well, except maybe Arnold, though I'm kind of doubtful about that). Kurt Wimmer (Equilibrium) was supposedly being considered to direct, but I have no idea if that was true.
 
I literally walked all the way to the mall by myself to see it on opening day, cause back then my mother always waited at least until the beginning of the 2nd week after a movie's release to take me.

The coolest thing was that by Christmas that same year, Terminator 2 toys started to come out.
 
Sapienshomo said:
There wasn't a film I watched on VHS more. It's probably the most re-watchable film I've ever seen.

Same here. The classic in my eyes from my childhood. Just delivered on absolutely everything, and as a series, T1 and T2 were as good as any 2 movies in a franchise ever. Then they had to ruin the unblemished legacy.
 
Funny, I just watched this today for the first time in years. I think it was the best watch-through I've had of it, too. I really love that movie, Robert Patrick is such a badass. And Budnick!
 
Saw it opening night with a friend and his mother. First movie I had ever been to where people actually sat on the floor to watch it (sold out showing.)
 
The first post summed it up, there just is no comparison nowadays to the anticipation that led up to T2 being released. My friends and I were in in Jr. High and followed every magazine feature, MTV preview, taped the GnR video, the whole nine yards. In the pre-internet days, you either taped the trailers off TV or bought up the magazines with features on T2 if you wanted every tidbit of pre-release hype.

I was around 13-14 at the time, so we had my friend's older sister buy tickets for us (because in those days, the big summer action movies were usually RATED R, none of this PG-13 teenybopper crap). A 10:00PM showing on opening night at Reston Town Center, the hip spot in Northern VA at the time... The theater was packed, and one of the ushers even got up in front of the crowd like an MC presiding over a hip hop show, psyching everyone up before the movie started:

"Awwww yeah! This is it! THIS IS IT! T2 Baby! Y'all are gonna love this! I just saw it today and it's BAAAD ASS! You never gon' believe the stunts Arnold pulls off in this one! The Terminator is gonna really whup some ass!" etc.

There was a couple rows of college frat guys behind us that were cheering through the whole movie, and the whole audience applauded for little things like Arnold's name appearing on the screen. I don't think I've ever seen a theater crowd that pumped up, you'd think it was almost a concert or something.

Damn, I wish action movies were still that good...
 
One thing to notice:

The commercials and trailer for T2 spoiled what would have been a cool movie surprise.

The way the movie starts, unless you didn't know already, you'd think that Arnold was still a bad Terminator and the clean cut guy was the "good" guy from the future (or at least another bad guy). It's not until that moment in the back hallway in the mall when Arnold proves to be protecting Connor.

It would have been a cool surprise if they'd chosen to keep it secret.
 
I think they originally began hiding that secret in the teasers and then embraced the fact that he was good as drawing power. But yeah, if you could somehow keep it under wraps like a Sixth Sense secret or something, it could have been a pretty mindblowing twist and people would fall in love with Arnold all the more were the experience completely unexpected. There's never a better good guy than a bad guy gone good. Still, as a child I seen T2 first, and unknowingly to the universe, though I seen all the media blitz in fast food joints and such. Still remember it. The toys as well, had a bunch of em and thought they were so bad ass. But anyway, it was captivating the way they revealed it in slow mo. Arnold as long as I can remember was a hero to me as a kid though, so I was unsure considering how violent he was, but T1 was equally shocking with him being bad. Seen that a bit after T2 when real young and loved it as well. Now I can appreciate it more, as it is really gritty and daring. Not in the typical Hollwood action movie way either. And T2 is a mindblowing action spectacle, also not in the typical Hollywood fashion, being it destroys nearly any other. I still think they're both brilliant and nostalgiac goodness all in one package.
 
Flynn said:
It would have been a cool surprise if they'd chosen to keep it secret.

Word !

Cameron originally wanted to do this but he was getting hammered by the press saying duh its another machines kill humans movie. Causing him to say hang on we have a good terminator and theres more to this than killing.

There sure was.
 
I remember this movie well. I saw it with my mom. heh, I was 13 going on 14 back then. I had gotten all pumped for it by watching the original and explaining things to my mother who just sat confused...

A buddy of mine who had watched Predator 2 recently at the time was saying how awesome it was, and how the Predator was the most insane enemy ever. I told him to shut the hell up and watch T2 and the T-800 and T-1000. He retracted his statements and shut up pretty quick.

It also helps that that G&R song is one of my top fav's period.

It's just an awesome movie. A great time capsule of an era long gone in my life.

I want a PSP version so I can watch it on the go.
 
I never used to watch movies in theaters. Growing up, I had tons of stuff to watch on tape and on TV. T2 was the first movie I went to the theatre to see.

Edit: yes, it was an awesome movie. The one scene that always remains with me was the death of the Terminator as he committs suicide by lowering himself into the molten pit. Such a deep scene, made me question the possibility of an intelligent feeling machine.
 
Y'know, When I saw T3 (Not nearly as good, but not horrible either...) I loved that scene with the psych doctor. You know, the one who has been in all 3? :)

"You see things that can haunt you for years... Sometimes, you never get over them." Not an exact quote, because I cannot recall the exact wording, but...

It was priceless.

Then I realized, I recognized his voice. He did Sergei Gurlukovich's voice in MGS2, among many other games.

Eddie Furlong was pretty damn annoying, and I'm not just saying that cause my GF at the time had a huge crush on him when we watched it together.

The music was just perfect. Especially when the T-1000 was in pursuit.

"Have you seen this boy?"

Classic.
 
The responses in this thread is the reason why T3 is one of the worst travesties in the history of cinema.. NOBODY, 13 years from now will even remember it. Was it a bad movie? No, but so very average.. Heck, I would have lived with a flawed movie if they actually took chances with the movie..
 
Erdrick said:
Eddie Furlong was pretty damn annoying, and I'm not just saying that cause my GF at the time had a huge crush on him when we watched it together.
Yeah. I sort of like some of his scenes, but most of them he's annoying as hell. Plus, I've never seen a more womanish little boy in my life. He sounds and looks exactly like a young woman, it's really sort of amazing.
 
I actually like T3, and this was after I figured I'd hate it to death. The problem is that a good 15 to 20 minutes got dumped by the studio (much of it being future war material), just so it wouldn't be too long. I think that shortchanged both the audience and the movie itself.

I love the entire series though, and think they all compliment each other despite being very similiar but with different approaches. The original was more of a thriller, the latter was just balls out action, while the second was a perfect blend of the two with character development far better then it should've been. For a movie series, it's about as good as it gets for me...only Indiana Jones, Die Hard and The Man With No Name are at the same level.
 
Shinobi said:
I actually like T3, and this was after I figured I'd hate it to death. The problem is that a good 15 to 20 minutes got dumped by the studio (much of it being future war material), just so it wouldn't be too long. I think that shortchanged both the audience and the movie itself.

I love the entire series though, and think they all compliment each other despite being very similiar but with different approaches. The original was more of a thriller, the latter was just balls out action, while the second was a perfect blend of the two with character development far better then it should've been. For a movie series, it's about as good as it gets for me...only Indiana Jones, Die Hard and The Man With No Name are at the same level.
I don't think I could agree with this much more.
 
kpop100 said:
Even better than the Guns n' Roses song for T2 was the video for the song.

ASSESSMENT: WASTE OF AMMO

Is the T-800 assembly line sequence from the video available anywhere else, or was it shot specifically for it?
 
D2M15 said:
ASSESSMENT: WASTE OF AMMO

Is the T-800 assembly line sequence from the video available anywhere else, or was it shot specifically for it?

Was that different from the first theatrical teaser for the movie? It had an assembly line sequence that wasn't in the movie. It's on the DVD, IIRC.
 
T2 shook my world when I first saw it as a young lad (on crappy VHS too) and it has held the title of my favorite movie of all time for more than a decade afterwards... I no longer know what's my favorite movie of all time, but T2 is definitely up there.

Like someone above said, the video transfer in Extreme Edition is much better than the one on the Ultimate Edition, I own both.

T1 fucking rocks too.
 
Hell yeah! I remember seeing that at my Godfather's Pizza and thinking it looked cool, and then when I actually started playing it I was really afraid of the robots. I was such a wuss.
 
Shinobi said:
I actually like T3, and this was after I figured I'd hate it to death. The problem is that a good 15 to 20 minutes got dumped by the studio (much of it being future war material), just so it wouldn't be too long. I think that shortchanged both the audience and the movie itself.

I only saw T3 in the theater once, but I didn't think it was as bad as many say--it just wasn't as ambitious as T2 (but then again, it's hard to be that ambitious now). One reason to respect what the filmmakers did is that, while most other summer movies rely on CGI to pull off, T3 did the real thing whenever possible. That scene with the Terminator and the giant crane was much more exciting than the freeway chase in Matrix Reloaded, which came out the same year IIRC. (So what if the Wachowski Brothers built a huge road for it--most of the cars on that road were CG).

As for T3's writing--sure, it screws continuity all to hell, and sure, the characters aren't as well developed. But all it's trying to be is a balls-out action movie, and it does that well. And as much as I like T2, and I do like it a lot and think it's the best of the three movies, let's admit it--sometimes Sarah Connor's constant preaching ("YOU MEN--YOU MEN WITH YOUR GUNS AND YOU BOMBS, ETC., ETC.") can wear a little thin. T3 was no preaching, all fighting, and that's okay. If T4 ever gets made and it's no Schwarzenegger, all Future War, I'll be okay with that too.

Guzim said:
Anyone remember the arcade game? That game was badass.

I remember that game, but I preferred the T2 pinball game--I probably sank enough quarters in that in my college's Student Union to buy the machine.
 
I remember the anticipation of T2 and yeah the hype for it seemed out of this world, especially for the visual effects. I also remember taking my girlfiend who I was absolutely in love with to see it, so it'll always have a special place in my heart. However, I gotta go against the grain here and say that I don't think T2 is that great of a movie. The first Terminator was (and still is) an absolutely awesome film but the sequel(s) have always seemed like a big mess. Linda Hamilton was just incredibly annoying and by the middle of the film I was hoping that the T1000 would kill Furlong, literally.
 
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