GuitarAtomik
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Remote Play Thread: Play PS4 games on Vita/VitaTV via WiFi at home or away
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autoduelist
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Is anyone playing Wasteland via remote play? Looking for feedback.
Negotiator
Member
Has anyone posted router bandwidth stats with various settings (from 360p/30fps to 720p/60fps)? Does Sony use variable bitrate?
I want to know many Mbps of upload you need to stream (Remote Play/Share Play) without hiccups in 720p60...
I want to know many Mbps of upload you need to stream (Remote Play/Share Play) without hiccups in 720p60...
Vita Remote Play just got a nice positive article from The Verge. Reviewer of Fallout 4 praised the game as having one of the better customized control schemes on Vita [made by same dev who did Destiny Vita controls].
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/9/9695630/fallout-4-remote-play-vita-parents
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/9/9695630/fallout-4-remote-play-vita-parents
FadgewackeR
Neo Member
Did you ever get this working by changing the HDPC and 60 fps the way? I've the exact issues you had (.5 sec input lag) and it's so as I don't use my PSTV. My vita has always been perfect.
Just played it on my Vita last night and the controls are indeed excellent.
FadgewackeR
Neo Member
Thanks!!! I've finally managed to get the PSTV to remote play without controller input lag, for anyone that's interested, here's my exact set up:
PS4 Hard wired to router.
PS4 in DMZ with static IP.
HDCP turned OFF on PS4
Remote Play Direct Connect turned OFF.
PSTV hard wired via home plugs.
PSTV wifi power save setting disabled (I know I'm wired, but hey..)
On the PSTV PS4 link app, before you connect, go to the options (in app) and select high quality stream content. This will disable video recording while playing, but crucially makes things playable.
Image enhancement options on the upstairs TV (the remote one) minimised.
SUCCESS!!! PSTV is now worth something to me again. Steps 6 and 7 have also been applied to my Vita and the performance (which was always good) has also been improved.
PS4 Hard wired to router.
PS4 in DMZ with static IP.
HDCP turned OFF on PS4
Remote Play Direct Connect turned OFF.
PSTV hard wired via home plugs.
PSTV wifi power save setting disabled (I know I'm wired, but hey..)
On the PSTV PS4 link app, before you connect, go to the options (in app) and select high quality stream content. This will disable video recording while playing, but crucially makes things playable.
Image enhancement options on the upstairs TV (the remote one) minimised.
SUCCESS!!! PSTV is now worth something to me again. Steps 6 and 7 have also been applied to my Vita and the performance (which was always good) has also been improved.
If anyone has the ps2 star wars games that came with the BF bundle could you check if remote play works for them?
EDIT: nvm it works:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186093437&postcount=570
Also has anyone's connection on the Vita automatically switch between direct ps4 to wifi and back again? Mine does that sometimes.
EDIT: nvm it works:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186093437&postcount=570
Also has anyone's connection on the Vita automatically switch between direct ps4 to wifi and back again? Mine does that sometimes.
Boss Man
Member
I've been having an issue lately with remote play.
If I log into the PS4 from remote play and the PS4 was rested on Netflix, I'm stuck. The (PS4) PS button does nothing. So now my PS4 is just on while I'm out of town for the weekend sittin there stuck.
It used to be that you could hit the PS button and get rid of netflix, right? That's also what the message on screen indicates, tells me to use the PS button. Not sure what is up. Did they break this with an update or something?
If I log into the PS4 from remote play and the PS4 was rested on Netflix, I'm stuck. The (PS4) PS button does nothing. So now my PS4 is just on while I'm out of town for the weekend sittin there stuck.
It used to be that you could hit the PS button and get rid of netflix, right? That's also what the message on screen indicates, tells me to use the PS button. Not sure what is up. Did they break this with an update or something?
I used those in my old apartment to great effect, and in my new apartment they don't seem to work. I mean, the connection still works it's just that remote play didn't. Weird. YMMV indeed, probably depends on how your house is wired.
Just a reminder: A good router makes a BIG difference.
I wired my PS4 a couple months ago, but remote play was still spotty using the default Verizon fios router. And if my wife started streaming netflix, forget about it.
I got the Netgear r6400 from best buy, and it made a HUGE difference. I was able to put the apple tv on a 5ghz channel, so theres less interference. Since the signal is so strong, I can stream high quality on both the vita AND ps TV. Very happy now and FO4 works great on remote play.
I wired my PS4 a couple months ago, but remote play was still spotty using the default Verizon fios router. And if my wife started streaming netflix, forget about it.
I got the Netgear r6400 from best buy, and it made a HUGE difference. I was able to put the apple tv on a 5ghz channel, so theres less interference. Since the signal is so strong, I can stream high quality on both the vita AND ps TV. Very happy now and FO4 works great on remote play.
Hey it's the Google router they provide customers for that Google Internet is it a pretty good router?
Sorry I forgot one number! It's the r6400 not r600
Cool, looks good. Thank you!
D'oh. I wasted a shit load of time trying to register my new PSTV to my PS4 over the internet. The whole time I thought pairing could only be done locally within the same network, so I used a VPN tunnel. Come to find on accident, you can just connect directly and pair that way. lol
Negotiator
Member
I've made some bandwidth measurements on Share Play over the internet if anyone's interested.
Router: ASUS DSL-N17U
Connection: VDSL2 50/5 (sync speed 47341 kbps/4999 kbps)
First-hop ping: 18ms (the client was within the same country to minimize latency)
Game: TLOU MP
The PS4 host is connected via Gigabit ethernet to the router/switch.
Steaming settings: Framerate High (60fps)
High resolution (720p):
Standard resolution (360p?):
Router: ASUS DSL-N17U
Connection: VDSL2 50/5 (sync speed 47341 kbps/4999 kbps)
First-hop ping: 18ms (the client was within the same country to minimize latency)
Game: TLOU MP
The PS4 host is connected via Gigabit ethernet to the router/switch.
Steaming settings: Framerate High (60fps)
High resolution (720p):
Standard resolution (360p?):
Any fix for this? Really annoying problem that seems to have been around months and no reaction from Sony? Anyone manage to fix this? Wanna access my ps4 but it's resting in netflix
DaveTheSnake
Member
Bump. After connecting the PowerLine adapters to the PS4 and Wi-Fi router, what do I connect my Vita to for Wi-fi? Do I connect to my normal Wi-Fi router, or is there a separate Wi-Fi connection to the PowerLine adapters?
eastx
Member
Remote Play with Vita worked great the first few days after I got my PS4 this month, but lately I keep getting the error "The internet connection speed is currently not strong enough to start Remote Play" on my Vita during the connection process.
I have a Netgear Nighthawk router with latest firmware, PS4 connected to networking switch via ethernet cable, Wi-Fi power saving is turned off on the Vita, Direct Connection is off on the PS4, and my router's wireless security is set to WPA2-PSK [AES] only. I also have the PSN and Remote Play ports open via Port Forwarding on the router, though disabling Port Forwarding doesn't seem to make a difference.
PS4 Internet Connection test results are all successful, with Download speed 11.8 Mbps and Upload 3.6 Mbps (which seems low compared to my PC's max of around 124 Mbps down and 11.5 Mbps up).
I'm having trouble connecting no matter where I am in the house, so the quality of the Wi-Fi signal is not a problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I have a Netgear Nighthawk router with latest firmware, PS4 connected to networking switch via ethernet cable, Wi-Fi power saving is turned off on the Vita, Direct Connection is off on the PS4, and my router's wireless security is set to WPA2-PSK [AES] only. I also have the PSN and Remote Play ports open via Port Forwarding on the router, though disabling Port Forwarding doesn't seem to make a difference.
PS4 Internet Connection test results are all successful, with Download speed 11.8 Mbps and Upload 3.6 Mbps (which seems low compared to my PC's max of around 124 Mbps down and 11.5 Mbps up).
I'm having trouble connecting no matter where I am in the house, so the quality of the Wi-Fi signal is not a problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Powerline adapter will only help the PS4. They are great I have a couple. I think some powerline adapters do have wifi extenders though. But yeah otherwise you connect te Vita to your wifi.
Sometimes my Vita will forget my wifi network, but still show a wifi connection icon in the menu. Usually I just have to manually reconnect to the wifi.
other suggestions I remember is I think changing your wifi signal to 5ghz? instead of the standard 2.5. To avoid interference as that is what most signals are iirc. Ive never tried this, so my details may be wrong. Also maybe try direct connection if you are close enough to the PS4.
As for my own question. How is RP on the Note 5 or S6 edge? Does the DS4 work well? Does the GCN10 work on them. I would think so as they have glass backs.
Negotiator
Member
Newer bandwidth measurements on Share Play over the internet.
Router: ASUS DSL-N17U
Connection: VDSL2 50/10 (sync speed 49999 kbps/9979 kbps)
First-hop ping: 20ms (the client was within the same country to minimize latency)
Game: TLOU MP
The PS4 host is connected via Gigabit ethernet to the router/switch.
Steaming settings: Framerate High (60fps)
High resolution (720p):
Compared to the previous connection (5 Mbps upload only), there are no compression artifacts at all (just a bit of lag). 10 Mbps upload is a must for 720p60 streaming.
Router: ASUS DSL-N17U
Connection: VDSL2 50/10 (sync speed 49999 kbps/9979 kbps)
First-hop ping: 20ms (the client was within the same country to minimize latency)
Game: TLOU MP
The PS4 host is connected via Gigabit ethernet to the router/switch.
Steaming settings: Framerate High (60fps)
High resolution (720p):
Compared to the previous connection (5 Mbps upload only), there are no compression artifacts at all (just a bit of lag). 10 Mbps upload is a must for 720p60 streaming.
Ars has said the same for PSNow. 9mbits gets the best quality preset of 720p60 and no matter how much more bandwith is present, picture quality remains the same.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Disney Infinity 3.0 plus remote play is the best. I'm Kylo Ren'in it up in the Toy Box expansion.
Negotiator
Member
Interesting. I thought PS Now was capped at 720p30/5 Mbps.
IIRC, Xbone streaming to the Windows 10 app tops out at 15 Mbps. I'm not sure if it's native 1080p60 or upscaled from 720p60.
Why can't Sony give us more encoding options? We all have plenty of LAN bandwidth (100 Mbps minimum).
ps: I can't wait for the PC Remote Play app.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
Just wanted to drop an interesting tidbit:
I've always had a great connection and quality router, but remote play at home would always work for a few minutes before severely degrading in quality before disconnecting. Over the internet? I'd be lucky if it would connect.
Since upgrading to a Vita 2000, my remote play has suddenly started working properly. I played about an hour or two of Rogue Galaxy last night while my wife played WiiU. I even took it into the bedroom and it never lost connection or lagged. I haven't upgraded my router firmware or anything either.
I'll test over the internet soon when I can find a decent connection somewhere, but for now I'm really happy that I'm able to get it functioning with quality.
I've always had a great connection and quality router, but remote play at home would always work for a few minutes before severely degrading in quality before disconnecting. Over the internet? I'd be lucky if it would connect.
Since upgrading to a Vita 2000, my remote play has suddenly started working properly. I played about an hour or two of Rogue Galaxy last night while my wife played WiiU. I even took it into the bedroom and it never lost connection or lagged. I haven't upgraded my router firmware or anything either.
I'll test over the internet soon when I can find a decent connection somewhere, but for now I'm really happy that I'm able to get it functioning with quality.
I hope this is the right thread to leave my impressions on Remote Play.
Anyway, I got a PS4 earlier this month and a Xperia Z2 exactly a year ago with the main reason being for PS4 Remote Play. So, yesterday I finally gave it a try and I was surprised with how well it worked. I had my Dualshock 4 connected to my phone via Bluetooth because we all know touchscreen sucks for most games. Both my phone and the PS4 were connected to the same Wi-Fi and it worked flawlessly. I noticed little to no lag on 720/60. The compression was not very noticeable and it looked pretty good on my phone. The game I tested was Far Cry 4 and I'm willing to try out even more games since it works so well.
Anyway, I got a PS4 earlier this month and a Xperia Z2 exactly a year ago with the main reason being for PS4 Remote Play. So, yesterday I finally gave it a try and I was surprised with how well it worked. I had my Dualshock 4 connected to my phone via Bluetooth because we all know touchscreen sucks for most games. Both my phone and the PS4 were connected to the same Wi-Fi and it worked flawlessly. I noticed little to no lag on 720/60. The compression was not very noticeable and it looked pretty good on my phone. The game I tested was Far Cry 4 and I'm willing to try out even more games since it works so well.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I have Direct Connect turned on my PS4. My Vita has no other Wi-Fi connections saved. I am six feet from my PS4 system.
Why is "internet speed" not good enough..?
Why is "internet speed" not good enough..?
TarpitCarnivore
Member
PowerLine adapters are entirely dependent on the circuit in the house. If you have a multi-story house where one is in the living room and the other is in a room upstairs they (likely) may not work well. When testing them the best I ever got was ~100Mbps and that was even when using them in the same exact room.
If you are a Fios subscriber I highly recommend MoCA adapters. The FiOS router has MoCA built in (For the STB) so you just need the adapters. No matter where I've placed them I've had the same speed/performance. The only way they'd work poorly is if you have splitters all over the house.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Quick PlayStation TV questions for remote play:
1) Will the Sony Gold headset work with the PlayStation TV?
2) With a PS4 controller paired to a PlayStation TV, will the motion controls work? I'm playing Until Dawn at the moment and was hoping the PS4 controller specific controls would carry over to remote play.
1) Will the Sony Gold headset work with the PlayStation TV?
2) With a PS4 controller paired to a PlayStation TV, will the motion controls work? I'm playing Until Dawn at the moment and was hoping the PS4 controller specific controls would carry over to remote play.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Always remember to have a wired connection on your ps4 and remember to disable power mode from vita for maximum wifi speed. My remote play runs smooth as usual zero probs.
Ive read and experienced that direct connect just isnt very good. Basically as far as I know. Its using the wifi of both the PS4 and the Vita, and Sony products seem to not have the best wifi components. Maybe you also have some interference on top of this.
You will most likely get better performance using network RP, while having the PS4 wired.
LordOfChaos
Member
The 720p limit was expected (it's hardware with the h.254 decoder, same as twitch streams and Vita streaming), but still a pain point as streaming 1080p to a hiDPI laptop would be sweet.
But I hope they use the possible advantage then, if games are streaming in 720p, only render in 720p, so hopefully games with framerate dips below 30/60 get smoothed out a bit. If the limit was the GPU at any rate, which many probably aren't.
Anyways...iOS streaming too?? Looking forward to some on the shitter Destiny and in bed Bloodborne.
But I hope they use the possible advantage then, if games are streaming in 720p, only render in 720p, so hopefully games with framerate dips below 30/60 get smoothed out a bit. If the limit was the GPU at any rate, which many probably aren't.
Anyways...iOS streaming too?? Looking forward to some on the shitter Destiny and in bed Bloodborne.
Tomorrow I will need to update this OP once again. Remote Play arrives to PC & Mac.
Does this mean PC's getting native Dualshock 4 drivers?
LordOfChaos
Member
Newer bandwidth measurements on Share Play over the internet.
Router: ASUS DSL-N17U
Connection: VDSL2 50/10 (sync speed 49999 kbps/9979 kbps)
First-hop ping: 20ms (the client was within the same country to minimize latency)
Game: TLOU MP
The PS4 host is connected via Gigabit ethernet to the router/switch.
Steaming settings: Framerate High (60fps)
High resolution (720p):
Compared to the previous connection (5 Mbps upload only), there are no compression artifacts at all (just a bit of lag). 10 Mbps upload is a must for 720p60 streaming.
If it's local, does upload matter? I'm guessing not as it would go straight from the PS4 to your router to your device, right?
Strangely my Chromecast seems to crap out around my upload bitrate limit though, so not sure.
No, that's not happening.
LordOfChaos
Member
Ah. Wonder why?
I seem to recall some games were smoothed out when lower system resolutions were used even on consoles, so it seems possible. I think DF tested that but I don't remember.
PC already has native DS4 support, only it is done via Generic Input driver.
As for PC RP, it is most probably that Remote Play app will itself recognize DS4 and utilize touchpad correctly. I don't expect new PC driver.
Yes, PS4>Router>PC, local.
Chromecast is a dumb device, your android device is just sending it "link" to the media, and then chromecast starts streaming it from the web. Maybe they added direct device>chromecast streaming for media on your storage, but I did not follow news about that.
LordOfChaos
Member
Sorry, right, I meant to say for Plex upload specifically to it, but also to my smart TV or PS4. If things weren't dumb it would go PC - router - Chromecast/TV/PS4, but anything above my merger 5Mb upload chokes up on Plex even when it detects the PC as local. My i7 4770 should be capable of dishing out more than that.
But I guess that's a Plex thing, hopefully not a router thing (SBG6580)
Negotiator
Member
Your internet speed doesn't matter if both devices are in the same LAN.
I strongly recommend to avoid WiFi though (unless it's 5 GHz/802.11ac). Wired/Ethernet and Powerline/HomePlugs are the most reliable ones.
LordOfChaos
Member
I got a powerline kit for my PS4 on day...I think 5 (why is the wifi such shite sony)? lol. The other end would be wifi (I 90% like Apples decision to remove ethernet ports, except for when I don't), but at least I'm avoiding two hops and especially on the weakest point, on the PS4s wifi. The router to the laptop on the receiving end is generally strong and connects 70-117Mbps.
So I think/hope my PS4-powerline-router-laptop via wireless should be ok, we'll see tomorrow.
EdReedFan20
Member
I've said this before, but with the app coming to more, it bears repeating: I hope Sony adds a section to the app (if it's not there already) that allows you to use PSNow locally on your PC/Mac. If Sony wants PSNow to succeed, that is one obvious way. Right now, only users of PS4/PS3/Vita/VitaTV/Select Sony Blu-Ray Players and TV/ Select Samsung Blu-Ray Players and TV/Select Sony Android phones can utilize PSNow. With PC/Mac, that number explodes to insane amounts.
LordOfChaos
Member
I'm curious, some have said 540p was faster on the PS TV than 720p. Given that remote play on PC also describes 540P as default, does that possibly mean the Encoder is what's noticeably slower on 720p? Or was this situation because people were using the PS4s wifi, and PCs with better connections and a wired PS4 should be fine? Or was it the Vita/PS TVs decoder?
There's already hacked Vita Remote Play for Windows, so, already done, as that seems like almost what this is anyways. But if you want to use the official solution, just dual boot 10 and see if it's fine. If you like it upgrade to 10.
There's already hacked Vita Remote Play for Windows, so, already done, as that seems like almost what this is anyways. But if you want to use the official solution, just dual boot 10 and see if it's fine. If you like it upgrade to 10.
Last I checked the unofficial app cost money.
Was hoping I could use the official one to get around that.
Negotiator
Member
Does anyone know if there is any way to use a mic/headset (via mini-jack on the DS4) while being on Remote Play?
I'm leaving for a trip tomorrow and I want to play UC4 MP occasionally (if input lag is bearable, that is)...
I'm leaving for a trip tomorrow and I want to play UC4 MP occasionally (if input lag is bearable, that is)...
I own a PS4 and a PSV and I never thought of using this although I always play my Vita at home. I was just complaining about Disgaea 5 not on PSV!
Also need this for Persona 5 since I don't want to look like an otaku in my parents' eyes (they see anything anime as otaku).
Thanks OP for this incredibly informative thread!
Also need this for Persona 5 since I don't want to look like an otaku in my parents' eyes (they see anything anime as otaku).
Thanks OP for this incredibly informative thread!
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