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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Nowhere in that article does it say or confirm that Baldur's Gate 4 is planned, they just think it's "inevitable". Larian is certainly not making it, and I can't think of any other company that would treat BG4 with love and respect. Fake ass news.
diffusionx
Gold Member
it's weird to start with 2, but I don't think the people making these decisions actually care or have any knowledge of these games
asdasdasdbb
Member
Moar Bestiality!
Angry_Megalodon
Member
They will be shit and trash, respectively.
Looking forward to the cycle of massive budget announcements, CCU watch, media and reddit cope, layoffs and finally blaming on gamers.
Woke slop, too.
Looking forward to the cycle of massive budget announcements, CCU watch, media and reddit cope, layoffs and finally blaming on gamers.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
BG2 is a near perfect game imo, so the remake'll probably ruin it.
ThisIsMyDog
Member
maybe the team that made Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader could pull it off.
Zacfoldor
Gold Member
Owlcat, but they are kneedeep in their own thing and I'm glad they aren't working with WotC.
I have no hope for BG4.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
And BG1 is super important to get you invested into the characters and it was a great game including its expansion.
Both games still mostly hold up and are amazing. It's good to see some of the OG devs are coming back but I am extremely skeptical of this being any good.
Anyways, the games are on GoG and there are a ton of mods available. So even if WotC butchers the remakes folks should still be good.
Sentenza
Member
It depends entirely on what premises that remake would be built over (what aesthetic they'd chase, what production value, how mechanically faithful to the original, etc).
For example some modders attempted to recreat BG2 on the NWN 1 and NWN 2 engines. Which I DEEPLY DESPISED.
It would be like someone proudly announcing they are remaking a Black Forest cake with turds as main ingredient.
Holammer
Member
Edwin was genderswapped by a curse in BG2 and not happy about it. There's even a voice line where he calls the player a chauvinist pig. It could be reversed in a questline.
That's whatcha get for being Lawful Evil! (it could be worse)
In a reboot he'll probably like it and be re-imagined as a saucy lady comfortable in her new skin, with some ViziePop style writing when it happens and no longer the shit-stain he was in the original.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It sure would suck if they messed up that quest. I thought it was super funny, because Edwin was the only evil character in my party and everyone else was just cranking jokes and making fun of him.
Hemingwayoffbase
Member
Two words:
Turn
Based
Turn
Based
Sentenza
Member
It was GARBAGE and a downright disrespectful level of low effort in revitalizing one of the most beloved classics of the genre.
My disappointment the moment I realized what their "remaster" amounted to was hard to overstate.
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Zathalus
Member
What was garbage about 1 and 2? I'm not talking about Siege of Dragonspear, just the touched up expansions and base games.
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bender
What time is it?
Putting aside my exhaustion of remakes, I find it to be an incredibly rare occurrence where a remake can live up to or surpass the original so I tend to lump them all into an unnecessary pile.
Generic
Member
But Baldur's Gate 3 was a massive hit?
Sentenza
Member
Anyway I don't think anyone of you need to worry.
This will be canceled in a couple years at most as EVEYTHING ELSE WoTC announced in the last five years or so.
And for context it was barely a couple of days ago that the rumor they are cancelling their plans for a BG4 started doing the rounds.
This will be canceled in a couple years at most as EVEYTHING ELSE WoTC announced in the last five years or so.
And for context it was barely a couple of days ago that the rumor they are cancelling their plans for a BG4 started doing the rounds.
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Lucifers Beard
Member
I've tried to get into BG2 a few times and ultimately the combat is just far too messy and chaotic for me. I've finished the first game, but it was a lot shorter than the second and even then I had to turn on god mode by the end because the fights were painfully frustrating to get through.
Maybe it's not for me and I can appreciate that, but I would like to play it properly at some point as I hear nothing but good things about the story. Is there a 'right way' to manage combat?
Maybe it's not for me and I can appreciate that, but I would like to play it properly at some point as I hear nothing but good things about the story. Is there a 'right way' to manage combat?
Sentenza
Member
They had hardly any meaningful improvement, not even the blandest visual upgrade or a full voice over or what else.
Not even support for higher resolutions, as they claimed the original assets were lost in a limbo and "too expensive to rework on their own".
That defeats the entire point of a remake/remaster.
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
Hated BG3 because non of the characters were likeable and the game has nasty beast shit in which is weird and disgusting even as a option. Never played BG2 but it looks more like my style, however who knows if they'll make it shit with the remake.
Sentenza
Member
Literally a "skill issue", as the kids love to say these days.
RTWP is far from my ideal style of combat, but BG1 and (ESPECIALLY) BG2 were by far some of the best exponents in the genre.
Zathalus
Member
I agree they were underwhelming, but at least the games felt the same, which at the time felt like the best we were going to get considering it was done when interest at PC RPGs like that were at an all time low.
It could be much better today, but I fear the pendulum might swing too much in the other direction.
Ziglax
Member
Beamdog 2013 remakes were serviceable although very lazy. All Beamdog added content was mid-level amateur at best.
I wouldn't mind a beautifull 2D remake, the 2001 sprites could use some help. I don't believe in a 3D remake as BG1+2 would be a game 5x bigger than BG3 in terms of content.
I wouldn't mind a beautifull 2D remake, the 2001 sprites could use some help. I don't believe in a 3D remake as BG1+2 would be a game 5x bigger than BG3 in terms of content.
Lucifers Beard
Member
I'm fully aware that it is a skill issue. I just wondered if there's a way to deal with the combat so it's easier to manage. It's just feels like a massive cluster fuck to me lol.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Not even my man Gale?
StereoVsn
Gold Member
You really have to understand how D&D 2.5 Advanced works and then how it's implemented in BG.
Also, magic including counter spells and things like trigger are crucial once you get to BG2. Once you "grok" it things become manageable and pretty damn fun.
Yeah, and there are mods to smooth things out. Added content ranged from ok to meh.
I don't mind the Beamdog releases as they are for the most part non offensive (again, skipping extra content).
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uncreativename
Member
I played BG2 so much back in the day my parents had to hide the discs from me until I did my homework a couple of times lol.
So when the Beamdog versions came out I hated all their changes, except that they got multiplayer working again. Still a bad way to play those games, get the GOG original versions instead.
And any remake'll probably be so much worse
. Zero hype from me.
So when the Beamdog versions came out I hated all their changes, except that they got multiplayer working again. Still a bad way to play those games, get the GOG original versions instead.
And any remake'll probably be so much worse
. Zero hype from me.
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DarkStream
Member
Top 3 RPG, easy.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
IIRC those games let you tweak the difficulty, no?
In any case, I had some trouble as well since it was my first D&D based CRPG. Dedicating some time to read the spell descriptions helped a lot.
uncreativename
Member
Lucifers Beard
iirc you can set it to turn-based. It makes everything take waaay longer, but it might help?Also yeah, there are difficulty settings hidden in the menus.
If you tried to jump right into BG2, I recommend starting with BG1 instead, because not only is the story connected, you get to start from the basics and learn how it all works naturally instead of starting with a bajillion spells you don't understand.
e: oh nevermind, you already played the first one. Yeah idunno. They're not easy games, you really need to read and think a lot about your strategies, especially once it becomes mostly wizard duels.
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uncreativename
Member
Getting the fireball at the end of BG1 and taking out entire rooms of monsters in one shot is still one of the awesomest things in any game ever :]
Trying to think of any tips... Oh, one of the big ones I remember is that the Paladin version of Dispel Magic is extremely powerful, more powerful than the mage version at the same level, so if you can handle having a goodie goodie in your party I recommend getting the Paladin.
Trying to think of any tips... Oh, one of the big ones I remember is that the Paladin version of Dispel Magic is extremely powerful, more powerful than the mage version at the same level, so if you can handle having a goodie goodie in your party I recommend getting the Paladin.
