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Report: RTX 5090 Priced at $1999

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
3080 that was 2x power of PS5 was 700$ MSRP (of course not to be find in stores but still). 3090 was 2x the price of 3080 for like 20% more performance?
No, it isn’t. It’s 80% faster. DF calculated the 4070S to be 2x the PS5’s performance and it’s faster than the 3080.

Regardless, those days are over. 4080 came out at freakin’ $1200.
 

Senua

Member
No, it isn’t. It’s 80% faster. DF calculated the 4070S to be 2x the PS5’s performance and it’s faster than the 3080.

Regardless, those days are over. 4080 came out at freakin’ $1200.
4080 super was a step in the right direction, but all rumours seem to point the 5080beingt even higher priced than the 4080.

Maybe the 5070 TI will be a better buy
 

Bojji

Member
No, it isn’t. It’s 80% faster. DF calculated the 4070S to be 2x the PS5’s performance and it’s faster than the 3080.

Regardless, those days are over. 4080 came out at freakin’ $1200.

That's why I didn't mention xx80 series when talking about xx90 series. Nvidia went nuts with it, and then AMD almost matched their price. How they even hope to compete?
 

Hohenheim

Member
It's been a mosh of PC, consoles and handhelds since the dawn of time for me and I see no reason to stop gaming on all 3.

Nvidia surely won't stop me.
Same here. I enjoy gaming, and it's my main hobby. Hobbies cost money.
Good thing about gaming as a hobby is that it doesn't have to be very expensive. It CAN be very expensive if you want the very best quality and/or every game day 1.
No need for folks to be mad at people who invest more in their hobby.
Does watch collectors get mad when fellow collectors get expensive watches? Or does hunters get mad at fellow hunters when they get the premium equipment?
It's all a bit silly this stuff.
 

Hohenheim

Member
If these clowns for once didn't go out and instantly buy them then Nvidia would have a very big problem on their hands. The prices would come down but no they love handing over their cash and yet have that audacity to call out PS5 gamers for paying $699 for an enthusiast product. I hope Nvidia keep on raping them and doubling the costs. It's what they deserve.
Isn't this a bit harsh, mr. Wick?
Some people want the best option, and something to best possible accomply the new 4k 240hz OLED monitors. Is the 90-card not the best option? Will anything less do the new monitors justice in new demanding games the next couple of years?
This doesn't make them clowns.
Is the gains small compared to what you pay? Sure. But it's like that when it comes to high end stuff. Calling the folks who want these cards clowns seem a bit silly.
It's not like 2000 bucks is a gigantic fortune for many.

I definitly see the aggressive price increases as a negative thing (obviously), but it's not something to lose sleep over. Compared to lots of other hobbyes, gaming is still quite cheap.
 
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Hohenheim

Member
you could build an entire 4070 build for that price. Nvidia, please stop. Just.... stop.
To quote one of the all time greats, Morrisey: is it really so strange?
I mean, yeah a 4070 rig is miles apart from a 5090. Of course the prices will be miles apart.
 
you could build an entire 4070 build for that price. Nvidia, please stop. Just.... stop.
You could get a lot more than a 4070. You could get a 4080 Super build easily.

I was able to put together a quick and dirty 4080S/7800x3d/32gb ddr5/ 2tb gen 4 ssd at microcenter only so not even shopping around for lower prices all in at $2100 plus tax. I could easily get it down under $2K with like 5 minutes work.

That’s a whole extremely capable PC for the price of a single component and without DF 400% zooms and looking at your FPS counter more then your game you wouldn’t notice a difference.
 
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Hohenheim

Member
You could get a lot more than a 4070. You could get a 4080 Super build easily.

I was able to put together a quick and dirty 4080S/7800x3d/32gb ddr5/ 2tb gen 4 ssd at microcenter only so not even shopping around for lower prices all in at $2100 plus tax. I could easily get it down under $2K with like 5 minutes work.

That’s a whole extremely capable PC for the price of a single component and without DF 400% zooms and looking at your FPS counter more then your game you wouldn’t notice a difference.
Would this rig max out the new 4K 240hz Oled monitors with settings on max?
Because that's what buyers of the 5090 probably want.
Nothing wrong about wanting that!
 
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John Wick

Member
I think that if you build a PC with a 5090 it will still beat the PS6. It's a good investment for the future.
Hmmm? A $600-700 console vs $2000 GPU. I think any idiot paying that price would expect it to beat the PS6. It's not like they are in the same ball park for price and GPU silicon.
 

Bojji

Member
Hmmm? A $600-700 console vs $2000 GPU. I think any idiot paying that price would expect it to beat the PS6. It's not like they are in the same ball park for price and GPU silicon.

You can get GPU for 550$ that will beat pro (or lower counting Radeons).
 

Zathalus

Member
What are you talking about? The tariffs will increase costs for American retail companies. Those costs will be passed on to the consumer in America. This has nothing to do with what is banned in China. Do you understand what the tariff increases actually mean? It's an increase on stuff coming into America. That you will have to pay.
I’m not sure how much GPUs will be affected. The chip itself is from Taiwan, the GDDR from Korea, and the assembly is done in places like Vietnam or Taiwan. Some of the PCB components may come from China but the bulk of the GPU is from other countries. Now if the proposed tariffs get expanded to include those other countries then the bill will certainly go up.
 
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I’m not sure how much GPUs will be affected. The chip itself is from Taiwan, the GDDR from Korea, and the assembly is done in places like Vietnam or Taiwan. Some of the PCB components may come from China but the bulk of the GPU is from other countries. Now if the proposed tariffs get expanded to include those other countries then the bill will certainly go up.

I believe some boards are assembled in China. Obviously the 5090 won't be. So the tariffs shouldn't impact the 5090 at all.

Question I have is whether the 5080 will also be banned in China.
 

Hohenheim

Member
I see that the 4090's are selling for quite high prices now, after being discontinued. Can't believe anyone paying such prices now, when the sucessor is just around the corner. But hey, a few less to "compete" with to get that 5090 at launch!
 

BlackTron

Member
I see that the 4090's are selling for quite high prices now, after being discontinued. Can't believe anyone paying such prices now, when the sucessor is just around the corner. But hey, a few less to "compete" with to get that 5090 at launch!

It's weird to me that gaming is a big enough deal for all this. Nvidia could release an excellent card, and then just for the lulz to troll people with small dicks, release another one with 10% more perf for 2x the price, and people would fight over it. What they actually do isn't that far from this, but people get blinded by having THE BEST.

At least when people fought over say, N64 systems, it was to get your foot in the door playing 3D Mario at all for the first time ever. Now we fight for the privilege to spend ten N64s just to add a few frames to a cross gen game we already played, or a hero shooter.

Why? I'm losing respect for gamers, just like Nvidia is.

Edit: It's sad how much money has been blown making people salty over RT
 
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Hohenheim

Member
Nvidia could release an excellent card, and then just for the lulz to troll people with small dicks, release another one with 10% more perf for 2x the price, and people would fight over it. What they actually do isn't that far from this, but people get blinded by having THE BEST.
I totally get your point, but the difference in specs from the 5080 to 5090 is yuuuge.
For everyone who wants to game on the newer 4K Oled 240hz monitors and enjoy the new and upcoming games in full glory, the 5090 is the obvious choice.
But of course you don't NEED to experience games like that in order to have a great time.

It's a choice, and for lots of folks it's a easy choice in order to get the most out of all the time spent playing games.

Now, if Nvidia actually launches a 5090 TI with 10% improvements within the next 1,5 year, i'll be curious to see how many 5090 owners who will upgrade and not wait for the 6000-series. I definitely would not upgrade to such a card late into the gen.
 

SweetTooth

Gold Member
I'm not going out on a limb when I say that in terms of value determined by price/performance, the 5090 will offer a much higher value in terms of $ per TF than the PS5 Pro will
Yeah, thats true when you soldered off the GPU portion of the APU on PS5Pro and ignore everything else
 

BlackTron

Member
I totally get your point, but the difference in specs from the 5080 to 5090 is yuuuge.
For everyone who wants to game on the newer 4K Oled 240hz monitors and enjoy the new and upcoming games in full glory, the 5090 is the obvious choice.
But of course you don't NEED to experience games like that in order to have a great time.

It's a choice, and for lots of folks it's a easy choice in order to get the most out of all the time spent playing games.

Now, if Nvidia actually launches a 5090 TI with 10% improvements within the next 1,5 year, i'll be curious to see how many 5090 owners who will upgrade and not wait for the 6000-series. I definitely would not upgrade to such a card late into the gen.

Yeah I recognize that, and I'm not saying everyone who wants a 90 series "has a small dick", but if you're getting into a bidding war for a 4090 with 50s around the corner, I mean what?

All I'm saying is, there seems to be something driving this, something mental, beyond just playing a video game. Are there really that many people who want to game at 240hz on a new TV to create this demand, that Nvidia can just sit back and watch us kill each other?

The market should be correcting for their greed, but it's just encouraging it. Affordable gaming is easy, yet everyone is clamoring over each other to drive the price of top-end gaming even higher. If everyone decided their money was worth something and just held it while gaming on something else for a while in defiance, Nvidia would add ram and lower prices in no time.
 
It's weird to me that gaming is a big enough deal for all this. Nvidia could release an excellent card, and then just for the lulz to troll people with small dicks, release another one with 10% more perf for 2x the price, and people would fight over it. What they actually do isn't that far from this, but people get blinded by having THE BEST.

At least when people fought over say, N64 systems, it was to get your foot in the door playing 3D Mario at all for the first time ever. Now we fight for the privilege to spend ten N64s just to add a few frames to a cross gen game we already played, or a hero shooter.

Why? I'm losing respect for gamers, just like Nvidia is.

Edit: It's sad how much money has been blown making people salty over RT
I'm not why you're in here screaming at people who spend $2k on a video card, if you want to go on a crusade against people buying frivolous things go after Jeff Bezos and his $200 million super yacht. Leave PC gamers alone
 

BlackTron

Member
I'm not why you're in here screaming at people who spend $2k on a video card, if you want to go on a crusade against people buying frivolous things go after Jeff Bezos and his $200 million super yacht. Leave PC gamers alone

You think I'm not a PC gamer now because of what I said?

OK lol

Edit: Also Bezos is one man and his personal spending habits aren't going to affect the supply/demand dynamics of an entire industry...he is not personally jacking up the price of super yachts for other billionaires by happily paying 400 million instead of 200, but that's what is happening in GFX cards on a massive scale.
 
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YeulEmeralda

Linux User
When I Iook at my European country our stores are filled with goods from Asia. Nobody is buying American cars, TVs, furniture or fashion. You won't find a single thing actually made in America.

The last trade war the EU had to counter with putting tariffs on Harley Davidson and Kentucky whiskey for fuck sake.
 

Kenpachii

Member
It's weird to me that gaming is a big enough deal for all this. Nvidia could release an excellent card, and then just for the lulz to troll people with small dicks, release another one with 10% more perf for 2x the price, and people would fight over it. What they actually do isn't that far from this, but people get blinded by having THE BEST.

At least when people fought over say, N64 systems, it was to get your foot in the door playing 3D Mario at all for the first time ever. Now we fight for the privilege to spend ten N64s just to add a few frames to a cross gen game we already played, or a hero shooter.

Why? I'm losing respect for gamers, just like Nvidia is.

Edit: It's sad how much money has been blown making people salty over RT

I bought a 3080 for 1200 euro's back in the crypto boom, if i could buy a 3090 founders edition i would have bought it instantly, not for the 10% performance increase but for its gigantic v-ram increase and the same price anyway. the 700 buck 3080's where basically not found anywhere in stock ever, and the 10gb on a 3080 was always going to become a issue.

The 4080 16gb was a bit better this gen around v-ram wise, but the price they asked for the card, made it simple not attractive towards higher end buyers, and people with lesser budgets where fine settling for 4070's if they didn't already had 3080's/3090's.

With the 5080 rumored to be 16gb and games demanding more and more v-ram but also performance specially with path tracing and framegen being a thing now, and who knows what else dlss 4 brings to the table, for many the 5080 simple isn't a option to consider just because of the lack of v-ram, and from what we see the 5080 is probably not going to be much more faster then a 4090. With 5080 having half the stats of a 5090, we will see a big run on the 5090 because its simple the only upgrade, or its waiting until the 6000 series to drop which could take another 2 years.

The thing is Nvidia knows what gamers want, and they exploit them to the maximum they can. Nvidia never gave a shit about gamers. The only difference is AMD is putting absolute zero effort in competing. I have no idea who the fuck wants to buy a GPU that doesn't have a AI upscaler at the bare minimum, hell even sony had to design there own AI upscaler because AMD just isn't doing it.
 

BlackTron

Member
I bought a 3080 for 1200 euro's back in the crypto boom, if i could buy a 3090 founders edition i would have bought it instantly, not for the 10% performance increase but for its gigantic v-ram increase and the same price anyway. the 700 buck 3080's where basically not found anywhere in stock ever, and the 10gb on a 3080 was always going to become a issue.

The 4080 16gb was a bit better this gen around v-ram wise, but the price they asked for the card, made it simple not attractive towards higher end buyers, and people with lesser budgets where fine settling for 4070's if they didn't already had 3080's/3090's.

With the 5080 rumored to be 16gb and games demanding more and more v-ram but also performance specially with path tracing and framegen being a thing now, and who knows what else dlss 4 brings to the table, for many the 5080 simple isn't a option to consider just because of the lack of v-ram, and from what we see the 5080 is probably not going to be much more faster then a 4090. With 5080 having half the stats of a 5090, we will see a big run on the 5090 because its simple the only upgrade, or its waiting until the 6000 series to drop which could take another 2 years.

The thing is Nvidia knows what gamers want, and they exploit them to the maximum they can. Nvidia never gave a shit about gamers. The only difference is AMD is putting absolute zero effort in competing. I have no idea who the fuck wants to buy a GPU that doesn't have a AI upscaler at the bare minimum, hell even sony had to design there own AI upscaler because AMD just isn't doing it.

Smart post and the bolded is exactly it, Nvidia is taking advantage and being manipulative.

Instead of saying "I have no choice but to be manipulated so I can play new game with vram requirements" I'll just keep squeezing as much as I can out of my 3070 and maybe even, skip a game for awhile, because I have thousands, and they're fucking with us.

I'd sooner use my backup 1060 and play GC games on a modded Wii before handing Nvidia an insane margin just to take advantage of me to play a game.

Anyway, I will eventually make a new PC, when I do, none of the brands I buy will be running a scheme and treating me like a dumbass.
 

PeteBull

Member
2k usd msrp isnt a problem imo, ppl in that price bracket can easily pay up to 3k usd anyways, problem is 600W powerdraw, i can tell u guys my 3080ti rog strix oc durning summer sounds like jet engine if i play graphically demanding game and gpu is hovering close/at 100% of its performance/powerdraw, and its barely 350W powerdraw rated.
 
If these clowns for once didn't go out and instantly buy them then Nvidia would have a very big problem on their hands. The prices would come down but no they love handing over their cash and yet have that audacity to call out PS5 gamers for paying $699 for an enthusiast product. I hope Nvidia keep on raping them and doubling the costs. It's what they deserve.
Relax dude. Mid-range cards are very capable and will last for years, and cost a lot less. If you don't need top-end, buy mid-range, simple.
 

Hohenheim

Member
2k for feeling superior and bragging rights on neogaf doesn’t seem too shabby.
Go on my dear pc gamer, bend down and take that d…. buy that sweet 5090.
I see a lot more salty comments about how stupid a 5090/4090 is, compared to folks "bragging" about having one. (Which of course is a very silly thing to "brag" about.)
Is 2k really so extreme for people who is passionate and want to enjoy their hobby in the best way possible?

Does it take away the joy of gaming for people who don't see the need for a gpu like this? Because all the salty comments sure makes it feel like it somehow does. Weird.
 

duck_sauce

Member
I see a lot more salty comments about how stupid a 5090/4090 is, compared to folks "bragging" about having one. (Which of course is a very silly thing to "brag" about.)
Is 2k really so extreme for people who is passionate and want to enjoy their hobby in the best way possible?

Does it take away the joy of gaming for people who don't see the need for a gpu like this? Because all the salty comments sure makes it feel like it somehow does. Weird.
No nothing wrong with that on a personal level. On an industry wide level I think it is problematic. Nvidia already treats its customers like milking cows. No need to show them that 2k+ are reasonable prices for gpus.
 

Hohenheim

Member
No nothing wrong with that on a personal level. On an industry wide level I think it is problematic. Nvidia already treats its customers like milking cows. No need to show them that 2k+ are reasonable prices for gpus.
Yeah, I get your point, and of course I wish the top level GPU would be cheaper, but it's not like the customers need to pay 2k+ to be able to enjoy games.
The high end model of most things tend to be quite expensive.
A friend of mine recently got a record player which cost him 7k, because he's a extreme music enthusiast and want to have a top experience.
That doesn't mean I have to spend 7k to enjoy my Miles Davis vinyl records.
I usually get the cheapest mobile phone, because with my basic use of it, it doesn't makes sense to spend 1,5k on a top pro model.
It's like this all over.
Lots of choices and price differences.
 
Would this rig max out the new 4K 240hz Oled monitors with settings on max?
Because that's what buyers of the 5090 probably want.
Nothing wrong about wanting that!
Let's not kid ourselves. Other than maybe Counter Strike or Apex Legends, even the 5090 won't be able to deliver that.
 
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