Lionel Richie
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Man I'm seeing so many posts I want to reply to on this thread and I can't focus on a single one lol. Let me just say I absolutely LOVE this thread.
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Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)
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LooseGoose818
Banned
Eolz
You got permabanned from ResetERA because they're trying to cover their tracks. Even if you yourself are into pedophilia, the fact you were involved in a discussion surrounding it was enough for them to want to purge you and your friends, because they don't want the spotlight on them to expose the real pedophiles. Best-case scenario, too. Worst-case is, of course, all ya'll creepy pedos.
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Ellis
Member
Anyone been archiving Era, or their posts before this purging ?
cormack12
Gold Member
I know the main eyes here are going to be on the screengrabs and the staff at era but I think it's going to be very interesting to see how those journalists and devs with connections with the site adhere to their journalistic principles and reporting guidelines in light of this. I'm talking about the residents Schrier and Klepek, and those EA devs on the site and people like EZA. It's going to look very problematic and damning considering the way they report on other controversies......and what about the other influencer's that lance the boil of controversy like the Jim Sterlings of this world?
www.vice.com
kotaku.com
I think this will be the response, which ironically will just add fuel to the 'cover up' fire.
For those coming to post their version of events, I think they should be heard and respected. Ultimately, no-one is mobilising big campaigns or doxxing anyone, this is more of a
moment. The case has been put to the court of public opinion, I hope they are as understanding and impartial as they were to all the other people Era put in the dock.
THQ Nordic's 'Apology' Over 8chan Incident Isn't Worthy of Forgiveness
This isn't the bare minimum. The bare minimum involves disclosing steps on how you plan to regain trust.
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Video Game Publisher Apologizes After Hosting AMA On 8Chan
Edgy marketing decisions have a way of blowing up in companies’ faces, but rarely do they so immediately and spectacularly detonate like this: THQ Nordic, publisher of games like Darksiders III, decided to host an AMA on 8chan, an image board notorious for everything from Gamergate ties to...
kotaku.com
I think this will be the response, which ironically will just add fuel to the 'cover up' fire.
For those coming to post their version of events, I think they should be heard and respected. Ultimately, no-one is mobilising big campaigns or doxxing anyone, this is more of a
moment. The case has been put to the court of public opinion, I hope they are as understanding and impartial as they were to all the other people Era put in the dock.
Tesseract
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MilkyJoe
Member
Screen caps
JordanN
Banned
" You take the Reset pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the Neogaf pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more. "
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Ryu_Joestar
Member
LooseGoose818
Banned
20-year old cheese tastes better than 10-year old cheese. Just sayin'.
Lionel Richie
Member
What happened to listen and believe? It's all fun and games to flat out say that everyone mildly associated with THQ is a pedophile and to say that PDP shot up the mosque, but to damage control this they just try to just delete everything? On the internet in current year?? They expect that to work? This is some new level of lazy authoritarianism, it's like they can't even see the irony of the situation. They probably can, but they think banning people who bring it up would be enough.
Not nearly good enough you fucks.
Texas Pride
Banned
You wrote a lot of shit but it has little substance. In the end you're deflecting the blame for the degenerate fucks with the "Neogaf" should be better spiel. Who named you our moral arbiter? And your goddamn right there's an US vs them mentality. I don't get off on children and hide under the guise of being progressive. I don't wake up looking for rage or to blame others for the failures I encounter. Those people have tricked themselves into believing their normal. They're the majority. Reality is quite different. If you don't want to post here then don't. Nobody's forcing you to participate. But don't expect sympathy from us on this matter. This isn't a joke and it personally fucking disgusts me. If proven to be fact they should all be castrated in public and branded on their foreheads so they're forever marked as the pieces of shit they are.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Enygger_Tzu
Banned
Burial or cremation?
Bigarmsbigguns
Banned
Would make sense for pedo rings to get into gaming, kids like games, after all. Controlling Moderation and Media with an iron fist also helps a lot.
Lady Bird
Matsuno's Goebbels
Well, no one said they had good taste.
Barnabot
Member
Then what you think about those "controversies"?
King of Foxes
Banned
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Rock And Roll
Member
It'll be my last post here in any case, I don't have more time to dedicate and want to log off to concentrate on other stuff. I also believe that I made my case clear as to why a lot of the things in OP concerning us, normal users, are misinterpretated. I hope everything I said was enough to clear my names to those willing to hear me out. I've also apologized for my rudeness to OP, which was one of the reason I came.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Can you link to some of the posts removed/scrubbed, or are they straight-up deleting them without a trace?
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
This is a big-brain comment." You take the Reset pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the Neogaf pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more. "
CyberPanda
Banned
Whoa man. What a good read, I had to catch up on a lot. My heads spinning from all the recent events and comments.
Eolz
Member
Sorry, just to post this before I leave to rest for a while. Nemesis contacted me just to say that he requested his account deletion.Can you link to some of the posts removed/scrubbed, or are they straight-up deleting them without a trace?
He just wanted to clarify that, since he's seen that you were wondering why his posts were disappearing.
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Ah, I didn't expect a response, but thank you.Sorry, just to post this before I leave to rest for a while. Nemesis contacted me just to say that he requested his account deletion.
He just wanted to clarify that since he's seen that you were wondering why his posts were disappearing.
Much appreciated, Eolz.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Since my name was visible in one of the screen caps but I was never actually part of any of the conversations listed, I can provide my part for at least one segment. Looking at the entire conversation of age of consent discussion’s context, it actually was incredibly innocuous(as some have already explained) and was in part a discussion on a topic on a rape that had made news where other members in era focused more on the age than the act itself. That’s all I can parse.
However I will absolutely defend Luigiblood. He was painted as something he was not in this whole situation. You clearly see he was speaking an entirely different discussion in the screenshot, left, was @‘d a joke in French, and he had responded to that soon after during that conversation. He wasn’t saying he loved that lower age of consent. At the very least, that requires an apology. He literally had nothing to do with any of this and CelineD chose to drag him into the mud.
I’m not gonna attempt to defend anything else on this, cause that shit’s fucked. That’s all I’ll really say on it.
However I will absolutely defend Luigiblood. He was painted as something he was not in this whole situation. You clearly see he was speaking an entirely different discussion in the screenshot, left, was @‘d a joke in French, and he had responded to that soon after during that conversation. He wasn’t saying he loved that lower age of consent. At the very least, that requires an apology. He literally had nothing to do with any of this and CelineD chose to drag him into the mud.
I’m not gonna attempt to defend anything else on this, cause that shit’s fucked. That’s all I’ll really say on it.
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Ellis
Member
Of course, but only 30fps and 540p.
And with a massive PEGI 12 age rating on the case to appeal to certain folk.
Celine.D.Sykes
Member
Here's my answer to Kano (and LuigiBlood to some extent).
How can you say you're sure it's just about him though ? If I didn't post the illicit content and Casiopao comments, you'd currently try to cover his back too, just like you do for everyone else. Don't you find it weird that all those people joke about the same things, have the same conversations and all of sudden (at the surprise of no one), one of them, someone who was all your friend for a long time, spending his whole life there, is proven to be someone with some issues ? Isn't it weird that I I'm the only one who were aware of his tendency, despite being on this discord sever for two weeks and never have exchanged with him ? Yeah, I call bullshit, unless I'm the luckiest woman in the word and the best investigator you can find in the world or you're all the stupidest bunch of people on internet.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but it's also important to not push someone's luck.
So you want me to cover your tracks ? No, sorry. Maybe try to ask Resetera's admins, just to see how far their jurisdiction reach. I've heard they were willing to change your pseudo and all, just to make the case a little more confuse for everyone. Who would have thought ?
I had 4 hours to dig into that discord server and I didn't have the time to screen cap everything before getting kicked. Now, if you really condemn pedophilia what about asking Vena (?) to make the discord server public for everyone to see and dig ? You'll pretend you don't know him too, just like Casiopao ? Why didn't you searched for "vile" content on that discord before leaving ?
You realize it was a mistake because you got exposed publicly ? You had all the time to react and apologize before that. I'd be really curious to see how the discussion went and your (LordKano) reaction on that infamous discord server just after the story hit.
You want my apology ? Take it, it doesn't matter. It's not about me and people can insult me all day, for all I care. Again maybe the important thing is that this infamous server should be made public for everyone to dig and see if lucky me did find everything there was to find in the few hours I had (while discussing with Cerium, mind you). Before everything is quickly purged and put under the rugs, of course.
I'm sorry, but I call bullshit on the misinterpretation. You're just trying to cover names and clear that discord. It would have been better to advocate for that discord server to be made public if there was nothing to hide. How convenient it is you cut ties from that server... I would have asked you to dig up more content and type more common pedo keywords than I did, just to see if I'm the luckiest woman in the world or if there was more stuff to dug up. Too bad and so convenient.
There's a point you don't cover in your attempt of defending yourself. When I got kicked, I went to tell you the reason (pedo related discussion). I was trying to make you talk about it to see if there was more (since I was kicked and couldn't gather more proves). You can't pretend I didn't warn you though. I did, very clearly. Did you take the time to investigate for yourself ? No, you don't even asked me a SINGLE question about it. You just went silent about it and continued your participation in the server, until everything blew up.
Here's the proof of the discussion (you changed your pseudo, of course, but it's you) :
Just a little element I forgot to mention : LordKano was one of the few (three ?) moderators on this sales discord. He wasn't just a random user.
Me : (Got) Banned from the sales discord for exposing two/three pedos in there to Cerium.
LordKano : I saw that.
Me : Do you find it normal ? I don't. You're not one of those weird pedo, don't yout think it doesn't make sens ? (I was not convinced Kano wasn't a pedo himself, I was just trying to make him talk a little).
I went to Cerium directly, I've not published that publicly. Results : he blocks me and I'm banned from the sales server.
I've just told him it wasn't normal to let those people browse the forums, where there's potentially underage participating.
I know you're not a nasty person, so I'm asking you, how did they framed that on the discord ? (attempt of making Kano talk) ? Did those people were punished or something ?
LordKano : Sorry, I have no information on this (despite being one of the three main moderator of the server ?). I've just been informed that you've been kicked and that the decision came from above, that's all. You weren't alone by the way.
Let's make a little pause here. You're saying that Cerium wasn't involved in this discord and that ZhugeEx was just a commoner in this server ? That he just had a title for the laugh ? How is that, you, LordKano, one of the three moderator of this discord server, didn't know why and how I was kicked/banned from it, me and some others lurkers (who could have also leaked stuff) ? You said it yourself, the decision came from above. The decision came just after I went to Cerium. How isn't that a proof of Cerium or ZhugeEx involvement of shutting and locking everything down ? Who were above you exactly ? Outside of ZhugeEx and Cerium's reasons for banning me, who else had any reasons to ? Again, I call that a vast amount bullshit.
Back on the translation :
Me : Ok thanks. You're someone good. I've thought they would have talked about it publicly.
LordKano : Nope, in fact you're making me aware it was about pedo stuff.
Me : It's completely for that. It's linked to that yes (duh)
LordKano : I've just been made aware of the decision, I've no idea of the reasons.
So, someone is telling you that there's some pedo stuff on the discord you spent your entire life on. Telling you how she was banned for bringing this stuff up and you don't see a single problem in going on, participating, spending a large amount of time in it ?
Yeah, sorry if I also call bullshit on your explanations. You're just trying to back your little group of friends.
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Plus, you and Luigiblood are saying that it was all just a gross misunderstanding, right ?
Here's Luigiblood twitter account : https://twitter.com/LuigiBlood (https://archive.fo/ia4FG)
Here's an interesting quick bit :
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Quick translation from french to english of this little conversation.
- We[N]döh : Do someone knows some japanese torrent websites, made in japan ? It's not for porn, it's for putting my hands on the japanese version of Deus EX 3, lmao.
- LuigiBlood : I'm learning stuff : /wikipedia link of Perfect Dark, a japanese torrent/ (Classy name)
- We[N]döh :Those stuff are infested with Child Porn.
- A deleted tweet from LuigiBlood. (Of course)
- We[N]döh : Bah, when you type "Daft Punk", you just see stuff like "PTHC KRISTINA 8yo", you quickly understand LMAO
- LuigiBlood : personally, I go to some websites and I didn't see stuff like that...
The discussion then goes on about how LuigiBlood tell his friend he never stumble on child porn, despite his friend finding child porn content on his first try of searching for something else (Daft Punk).
How weird it is that from ALL the hundreds japanese torrent servies/websites he could have named, the first one LuigiBlood is thinking about and advising his friends to use is Perfect Dark. Everyone interested in how pedophiles operate on the net, perfectly knows that perfect dark is indeed one of the best source for vile depiction of underage children, be it simple drawings or more serious stuff. Does that prove that LuigiBlood is a pedo ? No, of course. But again, that might put a stain on the way you're all trying to frame stuff. This time, there's no MGS to hide behind.
Smoke, fire ?
Edit : fixed some typo.
How can you say you're sure it's just about him though ? If I didn't post the illicit content and Casiopao comments, you'd currently try to cover his back too, just like you do for everyone else. Don't you find it weird that all those people joke about the same things, have the same conversations and all of sudden (at the surprise of no one), one of them, someone who was all your friend for a long time, spending his whole life there, is proven to be someone with some issues ? Isn't it weird that I I'm the only one who were aware of his tendency, despite being on this discord sever for two weeks and never have exchanged with him ? Yeah, I call bullshit, unless I'm the luckiest woman in the word and the best investigator you can find in the world or you're all the stupidest bunch of people on internet.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but it's also important to not push someone's luck.
So you want me to cover your tracks ? No, sorry. Maybe try to ask Resetera's admins, just to see how far their jurisdiction reach. I've heard they were willing to change your pseudo and all, just to make the case a little more confuse for everyone. Who would have thought ?
I had 4 hours to dig into that discord server and I didn't have the time to screen cap everything before getting kicked. Now, if you really condemn pedophilia what about asking Vena (?) to make the discord server public for everyone to see and dig ? You'll pretend you don't know him too, just like Casiopao ? Why didn't you searched for "vile" content on that discord before leaving ?
You realize it was a mistake because you got exposed publicly ? You had all the time to react and apologize before that. I'd be really curious to see how the discussion went and your (LordKano) reaction on that infamous discord server just after the story hit.
You want my apology ? Take it, it doesn't matter. It's not about me and people can insult me all day, for all I care. Again maybe the important thing is that this infamous server should be made public for everyone to dig and see if lucky me did find everything there was to find in the few hours I had (while discussing with Cerium, mind you). Before everything is quickly purged and put under the rugs, of course.
I'm sorry, but I call bullshit on the misinterpretation. You're just trying to cover names and clear that discord. It would have been better to advocate for that discord server to be made public if there was nothing to hide. How convenient it is you cut ties from that server... I would have asked you to dig up more content and type more common pedo keywords than I did, just to see if I'm the luckiest woman in the world or if there was more stuff to dug up. Too bad and so convenient.
There's a point you don't cover in your attempt of defending yourself. When I got kicked, I went to tell you the reason (pedo related discussion). I was trying to make you talk about it to see if there was more (since I was kicked and couldn't gather more proves). You can't pretend I didn't warn you though. I did, very clearly. Did you take the time to investigate for yourself ? No, you don't even asked me a SINGLE question about it. You just went silent about it and continued your participation in the server, until everything blew up.
Here's the proof of the discussion (you changed your pseudo, of course, but it's you) :
Just a little element I forgot to mention : LordKano was one of the few (three ?) moderators on this sales discord. He wasn't just a random user.
Me : (Got) Banned from the sales discord for exposing two/three pedos in there to Cerium.
LordKano : I saw that.
Me : Do you find it normal ? I don't. You're not one of those weird pedo, don't yout think it doesn't make sens ? (I was not convinced Kano wasn't a pedo himself, I was just trying to make him talk a little).
I went to Cerium directly, I've not published that publicly. Results : he blocks me and I'm banned from the sales server.
I've just told him it wasn't normal to let those people browse the forums, where there's potentially underage participating.
I know you're not a nasty person, so I'm asking you, how did they framed that on the discord ? (attempt of making Kano talk) ? Did those people were punished or something ?
LordKano : Sorry, I have no information on this (despite being one of the three main moderator of the server ?). I've just been informed that you've been kicked and that the decision came from above, that's all. You weren't alone by the way.
Let's make a little pause here. You're saying that Cerium wasn't involved in this discord and that ZhugeEx was just a commoner in this server ? That he just had a title for the laugh ? How is that, you, LordKano, one of the three moderator of this discord server, didn't know why and how I was kicked/banned from it, me and some others lurkers (who could have also leaked stuff) ? You said it yourself, the decision came from above. The decision came just after I went to Cerium. How isn't that a proof of Cerium or ZhugeEx involvement of shutting and locking everything down ? Who were above you exactly ? Outside of ZhugeEx and Cerium's reasons for banning me, who else had any reasons to ? Again, I call that a vast amount bullshit.
Back on the translation :
Me : Ok thanks. You're someone good. I've thought they would have talked about it publicly.
LordKano : Nope, in fact you're making me aware it was about pedo stuff.
Me : It's completely for that. It's linked to that yes (duh)
LordKano : I've just been made aware of the decision, I've no idea of the reasons.
So, someone is telling you that there's some pedo stuff on the discord you spent your entire life on. Telling you how she was banned for bringing this stuff up and you don't see a single problem in going on, participating, spending a large amount of time in it ?
Yeah, sorry if I also call bullshit on your explanations. You're just trying to back your little group of friends.
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Plus, you and Luigiblood are saying that it was all just a gross misunderstanding, right ?
Here's Luigiblood twitter account : https://twitter.com/LuigiBlood (https://archive.fo/ia4FG)
Here's an interesting quick bit :
(
Quick translation from french to english of this little conversation.
- We[N]döh : Do someone knows some japanese torrent websites, made in japan ? It's not for porn, it's for putting my hands on the japanese version of Deus EX 3, lmao.
- LuigiBlood : I'm learning stuff : /wikipedia link of Perfect Dark, a japanese torrent/ (Classy name)
- We[N]döh :Those stuff are infested with Child Porn.
- A deleted tweet from LuigiBlood. (Of course)
- We[N]döh : Bah, when you type "Daft Punk", you just see stuff like "PTHC KRISTINA 8yo", you quickly understand LMAO
- LuigiBlood : personally, I go to some websites and I didn't see stuff like that...
The discussion then goes on about how LuigiBlood tell his friend he never stumble on child porn, despite his friend finding child porn content on his first try of searching for something else (Daft Punk).
How weird it is that from ALL the hundreds japanese torrent servies/websites he could have named, the first one LuigiBlood is thinking about and advising his friends to use is Perfect Dark. Everyone interested in how pedophiles operate on the net, perfectly knows that perfect dark is indeed one of the best source for vile depiction of underage children, be it simple drawings or more serious stuff. Does that prove that LuigiBlood is a pedo ? No, of course. But again, that might put a stain on the way you're all trying to frame stuff. This time, there's no MGS to hide behind.
Smoke, fire ?
Edit : fixed some typo.
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Ramzy
Member
The fact that y'all are spending time discussing the merits of age, consent, physical appearance of minors, and all that other shit, is reason enough to condemn the whole situation. These aren't subjects that normal well adjusted people discuss in social situations. I don't bring up loli's in casual conversation, and I don't discuss when and if it's acceptable to lust over a drawing that looks like a child, because they just aren't useful conversations that advance any topic outside of just straight up being a fucking degenerate. Do something better with your time.
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Sucks when the court of public opinion immediately decides you're guiltily doesn't it? Karma's a bitch isn't it? You and the rest of Era have done that constantly and now it's your turn to feel what that's like.
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CyberPanda
Banned
Bring the marshmallows.
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
It's always the case that those who go around laying down the law are the ones committing the crimes.
Edit: for clarity, I should say I'm speaking generally rather than about any specific users. Innocent until proven guilty.
Edit: for clarity, I should say I'm speaking generally rather than about any specific users. Innocent until proven guilty.
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SinCityAssassin
Member
The act of publicly suggesting a torrent site at random, especially just putting up a wikipedia about it, and then going oh damn the sites I’ve gone to haven’t had that does not mean fire. It means an honest mistake. Especially when you’re going back like 6 years into the past to find one incident.
Javthusiast
Banned
It was only a matter of time, lmao.
Barsinister
Banned
I feel incredibly old after reading this mess.
Celine.D.Sykes
you deserve high praise for bringing this to light.
Celine.D.Sykes
you deserve high praise for bringing this to light.
Bigarmsbigguns
Banned
Bro, you need to stop posting.
CyberPanda
Banned
Gift her another month of NeoGAF gold damn it.I feel incredibly old after reading this mess.
Michele
you.
Why not an year?
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
J-Roderton
Member
Scrubbing threads on Era now? Classic.
LooseGoose818
Banned
ZHuge blocked me on Twitter, and it's looking like his "leaks" might have been fake to garner more attention to ERA. Like his "Mario on PlayStation" crap.
CyberPanda
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