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Resident Evil Community |OT2| Best Fans Ever!
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Nemesis_
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I don't know what it is about Revelations but they just feel so cheap and generic to me. Revelations 2 was a step in the right direction.
I think it really highlights how much I loved the characters from the original games. Resident Evil Revelations had Chris and Jill but they've never really been my favourites - and the ones they introduced are all fucking god awful.
Revelations 2 was alright with it's weird and kooky female villain but she felt criminally underutilised after the big reveal.
I understand they're smaller budget but I feel like their clashing ideals - to provide the "best of both worlds" backfires. A jack of all trades, master of none kind of situation?
I wish I could like them. I liked them when I first played them, but repeat plays just were shit for me.
Revelations 2 > Revelations though. That awful Terragrigia shit :| :| :| :|
I think it really highlights how much I loved the characters from the original games. Resident Evil Revelations had Chris and Jill but they've never really been my favourites - and the ones they introduced are all fucking god awful.
Revelations 2 was alright with it's weird and kooky female villain but she felt criminally underutilised after the big reveal.
I understand they're smaller budget but I feel like their clashing ideals - to provide the "best of both worlds" backfires. A jack of all trades, master of none kind of situation?
I wish I could like them. I liked them when I first played them, but repeat plays just were shit for me.
Revelations 2 > Revelations though. That awful Terragrigia shit :| :| :| :|
I like RER2, too, but I don't understand the hate for RER1.
RER1 doesn't feel "cheap." Quite the opposite. I'm playing it right now and I keep marveling over how this was a portable title, because it feels like it has some of the best production values in the series. The set design, the music, the atmosphere and attention to detail, even the strong theming of the creatures and the use of Dante's Inferno as a framing device. It feels like an MGS title in terms of plot complexity at times. So many characters and organizations, flashbacks and flash-forwards, parallel stories, conspiracies, double agents, triple agents, etc. It feels like they went all-out. It definitely has a bigger budget than RER2, and frankly it feels more expensive than RE5 (aside from the character models in cutscenes being less impressive).
And the pacing is on point, with so many great set-pieces. Something Revelations does very well is it telegraphs upcoming dangers, like
the Ooze wandering past the shelves and crawling through the ductwork at the start
Scagdead's "Mayday, mayday,"
Rachael's "Found you,"
invisible Hunters knocking over Quint
dual Scagdeads pounding on the door.
I'm also finding myself impressed with some of the puzzles. They're simple but more involving than comparative titles in the series (i.e. action RE). Like the wire-crossing puzzles and the whole labyrinth in the engine room where you turn off the steam pipes in the right order to open the way forward. You have to keep your bearings and revisit areas in the right order.
Probably the best part is the propulsive sense of momentum, though. Right now,
Chris and Jessica just realized they were duped into visiting the wrong ship, and now Jill and Parker are swimming through a flooded engine room from one air pocket to the next
we need to rescue this person, the ship is flooding, a satellite is going to destroy us, etc
Don't understand the negativity.
Speaking of puzzles, I found the factory episode of Revelations 2 to be pretty good in that regard. Of course, they were all pretty simple, but the key thing at the end of the (exploding) factory and the gravestone area were effective more in terms of how they affected the pacing. And despite really not having much of a chance of inducing failure, the laser room where you had to follow the invisible footsteps helped invoke a surprising amount of tension, certainly moreso than other laser rooms in the series.
Resident Evil. Biohazard is far too on-the-nose for me. Resident Evil is more ambiguous in its meaning and sounds more intriguing.
kamineko
Does his best thinking in the flying car
I'm afraid we are the minority opinion there, unfortunately. RIP OG Chris
Regarding the first revelations, I understand the criticism, though I enjoyed it. I feel it is better as a handheld game. It really shines when taken in small bites, and was a great change of pace for the 3ds.
I thought the Terragrigia sections were pretty dumb, though, and in general enemies/bosses seemed too spongy.
Raid mode seemed like a welcome addition, though.
It was a promising start to what is shaping up to be a great series in its own right. Rev 2 was a much better main game, and the improvements to Raid were great, though I think they messed up the higher difficulties. After a certain point, there's no real motivation to go on, IMO
badcrumble
Member
To be fair, Biohazard is a much better descriptor of the series, especially since RE1 is really the only one at all that is largely about a single home.
Don't have a problem with the name Resident Evil, though, and it's what I'm used to.
Yeah but resident also means someone who lives in a particular place, city, etc. a resident of Raccoon City, for example. That's what I mean when I say it's a bit ambiguous.
I figured they just messed up the FOV/aspect ratio due to 3DS being 15:9 (400x240). So basically, what we get on consoles & PC is a wider version i.e. 15:9 stretched to 16:9.
e.g. Top is adjusted for 15:9 (400x240), and bottom is your shots just resized (400x225)
Wow, she looks nice her.
Neff
Member
ugh
ugh
If you consider that Revelations was effectively developed twice, then maybe. Otherwise, I feel that Revelations 2 has more to show for itself.
Oh come on
ResidentDante
Member
Couldn't have said it better! Resident Evil has more mystery to it imo.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah in terms of mainline I consider both Revs and CVX somewhere at the bottom. But I see why people like them. It's also the case of where a meh Resident Evil to me is still a lot better than other games. Just at the end of the day something has to be at the bottom.
Dragon1893
Member
I thought the parts with Jill were great, hated the rest.
Rev 2 was such an immense leap forward.
I hate all the characters the game introduced and was really annoyed by
Rev 2 was such an immense leap forward.
I hate all the characters the game introduced and was really annoyed by
how they used that lame plot device of implying that they died only to later reveal that they are actually alive for every single one. Unbelievable. Not only is it terrible writing, I was actually relieved to see them die, only to be disappointed later.
I believe that's called "the Final Fantasy IV."
kamineko
Does his best thinking in the flying car
I like both. I associate "Resident Evil" with gameplay (because I live in NA and that's what I grew up with) and sometimes bad translation errors.
I associate "Biohazard" with serious discussions of canon and lore, because that is the source.
Resident Evil for sure.
"Resident Evil" because I'm just soooo used to it at this point.
"Biohazard" is good too though, the way it's said, makes me think of fast paced action and such or, I guess, a light gun game which is fitting in some instances lol. That's just me though.
Heard you guys were talking shit about Helena.
Also, The Last One over in the Julia Voth Cosplay thread delivered some greatness.
Also, The Last One over in the Julia Voth Cosplay thread delivered some greatness.
Fancy Clown
Member
#thatsmyjill
Dragon1893
Member
OH. MY. GOD.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Fixed it for you.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm gonna look into what caused Forest's death; it looks like he was killed by a crow or something!
Heard you guys were talking shit about Helena.
Also, The Last One over in the Julia Voth Cosplay thread delivered some greatness.
TAKE-A-LOOK-AT-THIS
Heard you guys were talking shit about Helena.
Also, The Last One over in the Julia Voth Cosplay thread delivered some greatness.
BARRY...WHERE'S BARRY!
So we're going to get Rebecca Chambers, Chris Redfield and Leon S Kennedy in the third CGI movie.
I knew they were making a third one but not that these guys were in it. It will be awesome to see Chris in a movie for once, only hope that Roger Craig Smith is voicing him.
http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Untitled_BIOHAZARD_film_(2017)
I knew they were making a third one but not that these guys were in it. It will be awesome to see Chris in a movie for once, only hope that Roger Craig Smith is voicing him.
http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Untitled_BIOHAZARD_film_(2017)
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Yep pretty good costly imo.
Also yeah RER1 was the game that made see the bullet sponge thing. It kinda makes sense plot wise since
Also
of RER1 made me quit playing 3DS version. Fuuuucccccckkkkkk that part in particular. I hate water levels in games in general. But that part with the 3DS controls made me rage really hard
Also yeah RER1 was the game that made see the bullet sponge thing. It kinda makes sense plot wise since
whoever was on that ship was probably experimented on and maybe they evolved?
Also
swimming portion
Dragon1893
Member
Wasn't Chris in the last one? I hated it so much I erased it from my memory. The first one was much better.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Third CG film in general is interesting. It's being made by a different studio than the first two, it's actually being made by SEGA's in-house CG studio team (they were formed by SEGA-Sammy and do all the SEGA game CG cutscene stuff, more recently has done stuff for some French CG film series), the people on-board are interesting (some kind of obscure manga writer, the director/creator of the Ju-On series, Marebito, etc., and the musician is an acclaimed musician who most famously did the music for Ghost in the Shell).
More-so, the Japanese site says the third film is a 'reboot' of sorts for the CG films and seems to be trying to become more of it's own series of things while still set in the game's universe (rather than in-between game tie-ins), and mention they want to go in a more horror direction and invoke the feel of early zombie movies.
Nah, that was Leon.
Leon in Degeneration looked weird. He looked way better in Damnation.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Nah, that was Leon.
Leon in Degeneration looked weird. He looked way better in Damnation.
I see this and suddenly I randomly remember that he kinda looks like Garth Brook's ego
Chris Gaines and I cannot think of why I remember considering there's gigantic portions of the 90's I can't remember
Nah, that was Leon.
Leon in Degeneration looked weird. He looked way better in Damnation.
At least it was Leon this time and not an emotionless robot.
Jawmuncher
Member
Damnation was better than Degeneration in every way. Aside from there being no Claire.
Also I hope the next movie is called Disaster or something. So we can have the DDD Resident Evil movie collection.
Also I hope the next movie is called Disaster or something. So we can have the DDD Resident Evil movie collection.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
I'm not trying to be stupid, but is HUNK canon in the RE time line or is he just fanservice?
Had to uninstall RE5 because I've got other things to play and maybe RE4?
Had to uninstall RE5 because I've got other things to play and maybe RE4?
RE: Defenestration
RE: Desecration
RE: Determination
Etc.
HUNK is canon. He retrieved the G-Virus sample for Umbrella at the end of 2.
There's also a report written by HUNK you can read in CVX.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
I recently realized that Capcom hadn't announced a 3D Mercs port on Steam and other HD consoles.
I wonder why that is.
I wonder why that is.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Probably as Mercs 3D was made for handheld platforms, and doesn't fit as well on other platforms that already have Resident Evil 4, 5, & 6's mercenaries modes.
One can hope someday they'll make some Mercenaries exclusive game, but with more content all-around.
That would be due to TOSE. Same with CV, GS and 0. Cheap outsourcing. There is a significant gulf between CV and 3 for example in terms of quality and design. It's easy to distinguish the actual CAPCOM-made games in this series.
Damnation Leon is a jackass. The translator took a look at 4's mistranslated script and figured "so Leon's this guy who says nonsensical dumb shit trying to be funny" and ran with it. It's a native Japanese speaker trying to emulate Western humor not found in the script and it's cringey. Leon's written as a cynical guy with sardonic wit, as per his life experiences. The translators don't even have a clue about those experiences, so they just add wanton attempts of "humor" at every single opportunity they can, and it comes off as forced, inconsistent and contradictory to the character.
His most accurate localization has been in 6. That game nails his personality. 4 and Damnation make him far too upbeat and happy-go-lucky for a guy that works a job he was detained and coerced into at the threat of his and a 12 year old girl's life. His job for many years was to put his life at stake against monsters to keep himself and Sherry alive. The translators make it seem like he revels in it as if he's the superhuman and immortal Dante and not just a regular guy in a bad situation. The only reason he gets through it is because that job helped him fulfill his personal goal of destroying Umbrella, but otherwise he's a goddamn hostage.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
How much of a role did TOSE have in Revelations 2? I know they were involved in some capacity but my loose memory tells me Capcom had more hands-on with the project. Regardless, I did think Revelations 2 was a big improvement over Revelations 1 (even though I enjoyed Revelations 1 pretty well regardless, definitely had bigger faults and not the same highs as Revelations 2, though).
If they ever make a Stand-Alone Mercenaries game for not 3DS, I think they'd price it similar to how they've been pricing their spin-off titles like Revelations 2 and Umbrella Corps recently.
But if they were to do it, I would want more content than an average Mercenaries mode in a RE game (even if it uses ported stages and characters). Maybe some interesting modes and an expansion on some of the ideas in the Mercenaries Modes/Mercenary 3D.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
EDIT: Grrr, posted in the wrong thread to something resulting in a double post here. XD;
Dragon1893
Member
RE6's gameplay is too good to throw away but it doesn't fit into what I want from my RE games, so for me the ideal solution would be a standalone Mercs with RE6's combat while the main games stick to Revelations 2 style gameplay.
Can't agree with this, Damnation was complete nonsense. You're also contradicting yourself with those first 2 sentences so your opinion is invalid.
TOSE usually take charge of animation, modeling, textures, programming etc.
Jawmuncher
Member
I just added claire since I know someone would bring it up. Damnation knew what it wanted to be. Degenration I found to be a bore.