It would front-load the costs of recording and localization. Nowadays a game gets a chance to recoup some money bofire the publisher localizes it. It will save money though on duplication and distribution but not so much on packaging because of all the country-specific regulatory codes and manual disclaimers.Forceatowulf said:
Resistance graphics now > E3 demo. (This is the thread of the month. Click this)
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Forceatowulf
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I feel so naive. *sigh*
There IS compression. There has to be. Let's say 3:1 compression on textures (totally random). If you need 60MB of textures in a level/scene, it will take 3x longer to load that texture into memory before it's worked on. I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt they're going with little compression.
AFAIK, game data is streamed off the disc (BR or HDD) into memory first, THEN the CPU/GPU grabs data and operates on it. To minimize the memory footprint, YOU HAVE TO USE COMPRESSION. BR won't make 512Mb magically more. So if there's 21GB of data there, you can expect that it's either laregely redundant data, or *gasp* Insomniac went sickhouse on the large pool of space they now have.
I wasn't aware that art creation was the only cost involved, but also optimization. Maybe BR means they have to optimize less to keep texture sizes down. And with the HDD offering a dynamic(?) swap file, you can no doubt stream data from both drives at once. Maybe BR filliing the swap file seamlessly while the HDD pushes data out to main memory. L1/LS -> L2 -> XDR/GDDR3 -> HDD -> BR? Random thoughts. Props to guys like Cliffy who have to read this drivel and restrain themselves from bitchslapping everyone spewing nonsense. PEACE.
AFAIK, game data is streamed off the disc (BR or HDD) into memory first, THEN the CPU/GPU grabs data and operates on it. To minimize the memory footprint, YOU HAVE TO USE COMPRESSION. BR won't make 512Mb magically more. So if there's 21GB of data there, you can expect that it's either laregely redundant data, or *gasp* Insomniac went sickhouse on the large pool of space they now have.
I wasn't aware that art creation was the only cost involved, but also optimization. Maybe BR means they have to optimize less to keep texture sizes down. And with the HDD offering a dynamic(?) swap file, you can no doubt stream data from both drives at once. Maybe BR filliing the swap file seamlessly while the HDD pushes data out to main memory. L1/LS -> L2 -> XDR/GDDR3 -> HDD -> BR? Random thoughts. Props to guys like Cliffy who have to read this drivel and restrain themselves from bitchslapping everyone spewing nonsense. PEACE.
I wonder what they are using it for. They have never implied the game to be anything but in the normal length in regards to the campaign(of course, if only game length determined that size they must have been developing it for ten years
).edit: *Reads up on speculation.* I see.
BlueTsunami
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Maybe the reason for the extra Data is because their piggy backing Halo3 on it
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BenjaminBirdie
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BlueTsunami said:
Holy cow, that would be a HUGE coup for Sony!
BlueTsunami
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BenjaminBirdie said:
Sony be dropping them bombs
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Pimpwerx said:
WHOA!!! Pimpwerx coming in with the knowledge.
Sony set up us the bomb?BlueTsunami said:
I just read most of this thread, and wow.
From resistance, to sparks, to hentai, to lord knows what else, and now to data sizes. Definetly TotM
I'd say with the data... There has to be *some* compression due to the amount of RAM the console has. Regardless of how fast the processor is or if its caching on the HDD, the RAM size and speed will still limit texture sizes. Me and my friend talked about this at work the other day.
With that said, I think they either have an incredibly large amount of redundant data (the game x2?), or needless filler junk to hype up us hardcore gamers.
And the (photoshopped) sparks look great ;P
acousticvan
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Is this new screenshot?
It looks like 4xAA to me.
It looks like 4xAA to me.
acousticvan
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From here http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=59143&page=21Wollan said:
HomerSimpson-Man
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This game looks really really smooth and prestine when it comes to image quality!
Logan Cano
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That´s a bigger version of the one we saw in that small set of screens a few days ago.
Yoboman said:
they've got a ways to go.
That's easily the most jarring thing about this games graphics. Ted price keeps emphasizing how they have normal maps on everything and for the most part the characters look like medium range poly characters with flat high-res textures applied.
The characters models in the shot above actually look normal mapped, but the ingame stuff just looks flat and featureless. Turn on the normal maps Ted!
Rice-Eater
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You're comparing a model from a newer build to the E3 build.
How about comparing these two
They look identical, except the one on top has his eyes open.
How about comparing these two
They look identical, except the one on top has his eyes open.
those two leapers look the exact same to me. put them in the same lighting, close the top one's mouth and I bet they would look the same.
Factor in the game has been getting polishing lately, better lighting, etc. And I could easily see them being the same.
Factor in the game has been getting polishing lately, better lighting, etc. And I could easily see them being the same.
And better lighting, but that would make since according to the recent dev reports.Rice-Eater said:
HomerSimpson-Man
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Kangu said:they've got a ways to go.
That's easily the most jarring thing about this games graphics. Ted price keeps emphasizing how they have normal maps on everything and for the most part the characters look like medium range poly characters with flat high-res textures applied.
The characters models in the shot above actually look normal mapped, but the ingame stuff just looks flat and featureless. Turn on the normal maps Ted!
Well, that really looks like a case of needing more specular highlights than just straight up normal maps.
momolicious
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i think they need to work on the muzzle flash effect, it looks kinda weak, and just Some textures, the rest is awesome
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parada911 said:
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I'm sure you do, yo. Yo, check dis..."
At this point, I just decided to end my life but I want to have my hands on the PS3 so decided not to and just closed out the tab in Firefox.
tahrikmili
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Well, the presentation in that hands on review sucks, but it gets the point across :lol
looks like they are the in game models indeed.
http://forums.insomniacgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=32388
http://forums.insomniacgames.com/viewtopic.php?t=32388
Mark Gonzales
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Lame. I used to hate the Wii. Now i'm thinking save 400 bucks and get better graphics than PS3.
BamYouHaveAids
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**** that. Why even buy a Wii? When you could buy a DS and have better graphics then PS3 and 360 combined!1111!11eleven!111onehundred-eleven!111!11Mark Gonzales said:
HomerSimpson-Man
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Mark Gonzales said:
You.
Stop posting.
acousticvan said:Is this new screenshot?
It looks like 4xAA to me.
I love how the Chimera looks "solid" and "whole" and its skin has that sheen of skin that isn't just "shiny" like so many other models. It looks alot better than the models we've seen in the older shots simply because of that. With it looking more realistic and whole the design doesn't even bother me as much because it just look "organic."
Oh, and they forgot to polygonize those tubes behind the chimera - I call CG.
Moderation Unlimited
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Mark Gonzales said:
Dude, what the hell happened to you? You used to just innocently post topics (albeit not good ones sometimes). But at least you didn't push your now unveiled fanboyism.
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