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Respawn Supposedly Rejected Calls for a Female and/or Black Lead for Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (IGN)
Umbasaborne
Banned
Era rn:
But seriously cal is pretty boring, if the same character was a different race or gender, i dont think it would improve them without substantial character changes to go with it. Im fine if the next game ditches him for a woman or poc, as long as they are interesting
But seriously cal is pretty boring, if the same character was a different race or gender, i dont think it would improve them without substantial character changes to go with it. Im fine if the next game ditches him for a woman or poc, as long as they are interesting
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I like that move.
Nothing against having a female and/or black leads, but only as long as it's part of the original creative vision, and not to fit in some woke agenda.
And I think we can guess where those "request" came from, and why.
So yeah, good job Respawn, you based.
Now turn Cal into a jedi chad instead of the padawan twink he is, and we might be frens. Like imagine this lad turning into the new Kyle Katarn, that would be cool.
Nothing against having a female and/or black leads, but only as long as it's part of the original creative vision, and not to fit in some woke agenda.
And I think we can guess where those "request" came from, and why.
So yeah, good job Respawn, you based.
Now turn Cal into a jedi chad instead of the padawan twink he is, and we might be frens. Like imagine this lad turning into the new Kyle Katarn, that would be cool.
Arun1910
Member
I'm all for diversity in games, the world is a colourful place... but why does Diversity seem to just mean Black people?
Where are the Indian or Asian leeds?
I don't particularly care about the race of a character (I don't project myself on them, same as with female leeds), but diversity is not just Black people.
Where are the Indian or Asian leeds?
I don't particularly care about the race of a character (I don't project myself on them, same as with female leeds), but diversity is not just Black people.
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nush
Member
Diversity can only be chosen by this limited diverse selection.
kingfey
Banned
Its a pitty excuse, because blacks were being enslaved.
Moves like these pisses off those community. Look at halo series. That asian character is getting alot of hate. It did the opposite of what the producers were trying to achieve.
Do it like mace wondu. Make them part of the story, but not shoe horn them, because of the status quote.
Captain Toad
Banned
That don't like to be called Indians any more. Apparently, they prefer to be called Guardians.
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Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
"Diverse" means female or black. What a world.
Arun1910
Member
It's unfortunate that now whenever I hear "Diversity" it always just means "Black person" which in turn gives the impression of pandering to an audience.
And I hate that this is the impression I get... but honestly, where is the diversity in the diversity!
I'm a British Indian, non religious, not having brown protagonists doesn't bug me as like i mentioned, I don't project myself onto characters, I treat stories in games as characters stories and not mine.
However just always hearing people in uproar about a lack of black protagonists irks me because there are many other options out there.
Funnily enough I don't really see Indians or Asians make too much of a fuss about lack of their diversity in games, maybe we all just don't care as much lol. But it would be nice every now and again.
The_hunter
Member
The game evokes the fantasy of being luke skywalker. Kal is an awesome character.
kingfey
Banned
People have nothing to do. Its time for some nonsense words, which doesnt make a sense at all.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
I enjoyed Fallen Order quite a bit and thought all the actors did their jobs very well, however the main protagonist was for all intents and purposes a very cookie-cutter character that could have been played by either a female or male of any race and it would not have changed my experience/perception of the game.
anthony2690
Member
Slightly off topic, has anyone played Raji: An Ancient Epic?
Been debating grabbing it a few times, as I quite like the Indian theme as it's something a little different from the usual.
Arun1910
Member
Ironically If you replaced 'female' with 'male' your comment would actually be more true.
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EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Trilla and the second sisters had a chess match with the main character.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Never mind racial groups skewed to half way around the world.
Where's all the Latino characters? A good chunk of games are made in the US where there's lots of Latin American folks.
Yet some reason in gaming, devs barely even make characters based on people right in their backyard.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Jedi: Fallen Order had an incredibly diverse cast.
Cameron Monaghan, who portrays the cookie-cutter Cal, does an incredible Joker in the show 'Gotham'. So it’s a shame that the direction and writing in Jedi: Fallen Order, didn’t elevate Cal into something more compelling. I found the supporting cast to be more interesting than him.
The character that stole the show for me was Trilla:
Played by Elizabeth Grullon:
Cameron Monaghan, who portrays the cookie-cutter Cal, does an incredible Joker in the show 'Gotham'. So it’s a shame that the direction and writing in Jedi: Fallen Order, didn’t elevate Cal into something more compelling. I found the supporting cast to be more interesting than him.
The character that stole the show for me was Trilla:
Played by Elizabeth Grullon:
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SlimeGooGoo
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Excellent point. What's a game with a Latino/Hispanic/Mexican protagonist? Just Cause?
Fuz
Banned
Can't we have a Sardinian protagonist?
We never had one! WHERE'S THE DIVERSITY? WHERE'S THE INCLUSIVITY?
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tommib
Banned
Shadows of the Damned. The Evil Within. Scarface.
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I Master l
Banned
I've seen an intervew with ex Respawn developer ''he is at Infinty Ward now'' and they ask him about changing the
sex of captain price and he seems to be confused from the question ..i am sure Respawn didn't refuse but they have
their reasons
sex of captain price and he seems to be confused from the question ..i am sure Respawn didn't refuse but they have
their reasons
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
As long as that character is as cute and attractive as this beauty....
sarcasm alert
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Who knows. That Gears female character is Latino, and there will be more, but given how many Latinos there are in the US, they are right there with Native and East Indians for disproportionately low representation. Although I'm sure you get a bunch of Spanish speaking people in games involving drug busts or street thuggery.
Amazing thing too is when you look at every corporate photo (which game studios love doing in the US), it's almost all white people. You get a small number of Asians, but probably 90% white. Somehow these heavily white skewed American studios seem to sure have a lot of knowledge how to make Black characters in games, yet Asians, Latinos, and Native and East Indians are barely shown. I'll give them credit, Arabs get their fair share on stage.... as shooter villain terrorists.
Funny enough you never see Japanese companies do that corporate PR shot in the lobby of their office.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
That's funny I thought about that one afterwards. Voiced by a white dude though lol
chillbrah
Neo Member
did they just assume Cal's gender??
kingfey
Banned
She is beautiful. any 30+ dudes would like to go on a date with her.As long as that character is as cute and attractive as this beauty....
sarcasm alert
AmuroChan
Member
Miles Morales.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Ah. I thought he was black. He certainly presents that way.
Jesus christ she's mentally unhinged.How do these snowflakes cope with life? I heard somewhere that nothing is too trivial to offend social justice warriors. No wonder she’s a former employee. These companies need to keep these crazies out.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Yes because we're tired of all the male red heads we see in games...oh wait...
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Thank god there were people in management to shoot this idea down, the game was enough of a dumpster fire as it was in the state it released in.
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AmuroChan
Member
His skin color is black, but his ethnicity is Puerto Rican hispanic.
Queue "In the arrrrms of an angel" song.
Everyday hundreds of gaming "journalists" are being forced to scavenge and find stories, the problem is right now there just aren't any stories, so they have to resort to making "news" out of nothing....
For just pennies a day you can subscribe to whatever vapid paid version of the gaming website and you can help to partially feed one of these starving journos.
All the while the camera is cutting from one guy starching his head to another lady with thinking face, to another person and a few of them are crying as the AD goes on, they start clawing at their skin, one is about to cut themselves.
Everyday hundreds of gaming "journalists" are being forced to scavenge and find stories, the problem is right now there just aren't any stories, so they have to resort to making "news" out of nothing....
For just pennies a day you can subscribe to whatever vapid paid version of the gaming website and you can help to partially feed one of these starving journos.
All the while the camera is cutting from one guy starching his head to another lady with thinking face, to another person and a few of them are crying as the AD goes on, they start clawing at their skin, one is about to cut themselves.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Normally I would say get bent, but the white male lead was crap. Would have been a better game with just about any other lead.
Fbh
Gold Member
It's pretty ridiculous that they have to give a justification for having a white male character.
"Why wasn't the main character black or female?"
"Because we didn't fucking want to make them that way".
That should be all there is to it.
I agree Cal was rather bland but that was because of the writing, not because of his race or gender.
"Why wasn't the main character black or female?"
"Because we didn't fucking want to make them that way".
That should be all there is to it.
I agree Cal was rather bland but that was because of the writing, not because of his race or gender.
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