cyborgnumberblue
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Loved the first one, the atmosphere was great. Owned the second one, but never got too far in it.
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Loved the first one, the atmosphere was great. Owned the second one, but never got too far in it.
I bought the first Fear Effect but never got very far into it, I don't think I enjoyed it at the time even though I had played and loved Resident Evil. I still think it's a visually interesting title, the mix of realism and cel shading works really well and stands out more than the current look of the new remake.
It was great following this in magazines and getting hyped about it although looking back on it now I can't believe how crass some of the costumes are. I skipped the sequel because of average reviews at the time. How do you rate the sequel, BTails?
It was great following this in magazines and getting hyped about it although looking back on it now I can't believe how crass some of the costumes are. I skipped the sequel because of average reviews at the time. How do you rate the sequel, BTails?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Second one is really good -- feels more polished than the first. Pretty dark and dreary game at times, but I'm into that.
I need to rebuy the sequel sometime.
I need to rebuy the sequel sometime.
Yeah, I was a little disappointed that they're not going full cel-shading for the remake, based on the short teaser, although Hana still looks a bit more "Cartoony" than realistic, which is good.
As for Retro Helix, I remember enjoying it back in the day. It's been quite some time since I played through it, and I don't remember much other than the first few sections of the game. In my recollection, it seemed very similar to the first, maybe so much so that it got less than stellar reviews?
The second game had the obnoxious advertising campaign which played up the "Hot Lesbian Action!", whereas I seem to recall it wasn't really a huge deal outside of one or two short sequences.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Pre-ordered me a SNES mini.
Shin Johnpv
Member
Same here, managed to get one in at gamestop in-store.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
I was legit shocked at how fast it went. It was up and sold out on Best Buy Canada in about 3 mins. Even the Fire Emblem Fates Special Edition lasted about 9 mins.
davidwhangchoi
Member
sadly i missed out on all us retailers. and i was waiting at 1pm. cart jacked.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I don't think I want the SNES classic. I mean, Star Fox 2 is a super cool thing, but I think I actually have all the games I want on the real deal system. I mean, it'd be a cool tchotchke to have around, as a decoration, but that's kinda... it.
If I see one at a store, just like... out in the wild, I'll probably buy it, regardless.
If I see one at a store, just like... out in the wild, I'll probably buy it, regardless.
You shouldn't have been surprised though. We all saw that coming. Glad I got one also. Now I just need a SFC preorder when it goes up in mid-September.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Having two OEM Super Nintendo controllers to use on my Wii and Wii U is all I really want. The ability to play Star Fox 2 and some other stuff in a worse-than-on-my-actual-SNES system is just extra.
I'm actually considering maybe just selling the thing itself without the controllers lol. I bet I could get above what I paid just for that.
I agree that the two controllers in the box is the real appeal here. I felt the same way about the NES Classic.
sixteen-bit
Member
I would be happier with a complete SF2 playable on real SNES hardware than a SNES classic, tbh.
People will lobotomize a donor cart to flash this ROM onto it like they've done before.
cyborgnumberblue
Member
Maybe this was answered, but is the Star Fox 2 ROM the one that was 95% complete, then fan-patched to completion that has been pirate-able for a while, or something more refined?
Wouldn't think Argonaut themselves came back to finish that last 5%.
Wouldn't think Argonaut themselves came back to finish that last 5%.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
It is the 100% version that was never released and never leaked.
cyborgnumberblue
Member
So the version compiled from the source code of the latest build before being canceled and the version on the SNES Classic are different, then?
I was under the impression that the more complete leaked version compiled from the source code and the one on the SNES Classic stem from the same ROM image, just one patched to completion by fans, the other by Nintendo.
Sorry Doom SNES carts
Whenever I hear donor carts Madden games are the only ones that come to mind, lol.
Haha, normally. However for StarFox 2, you need a cart donor with a Super FX 2 chip on it, and people usually don't want to lobotomize copies of Yoshi's Island.
Oh yeah, completely blanked on that, lol.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Guys, stop gutting Yoshi's Island carts. Star Fox runs at 3fps anyway, it's a shit game.
IrishNinja
Member
recent Game Sack on classic gaming mags was cool, man i love those things
also Fear Effect is getting remade? ...huh. never did play that one
same! between this & the GAME UK one (that says they don't ship outside of the UK?) we'll see if i end up getting shit, haha
oh man, i feel bad enough about the maddens & whatever i had used for the JRPG & such repro carts i bought years ago, SFX ones are such a waste
...unless it's Stunt Racer FX
also Fear Effect is getting remade? ...huh. never did play that one
same! between this & the GAME UK one (that says they don't ship outside of the UK?) we'll see if i end up getting shit, haha
oh man, i feel bad enough about the maddens & whatever i had used for the JRPG & such repro carts i bought years ago, SFX ones are such a waste
...unless it's Stunt Racer FX
PumpkinSpice
Banned
The leaked version wasn't the latest before being cancelled.
EDIT: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/star-fox-2-programmer-on-snes-classic-release-its-bloody-awesome
The leaked one was from an almost final build, and was patched by fans to get it working 100%. But the game was gold, passed QA and was ready for production when Nintendo decided not to release it. This is the version on the SNES mini.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-26-why-star-fox-2s-release-on-snes-mini-is-such-a-big-deal
I have a Stunt Race FX ready for it, which should be compatible. I didn't even buy it on purpose, an eBay seller sent it to me by mistake like a decade ago and let me keep it instead of the F-Zero I ordered that he sent to another person. It's only reading about Star Fox 2 and how to get a repro that I learnt that I was ready for it.
Looking at the PCB right now and I'm not eager to work on it lol. Tiny chip legs and traces
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Stunt Race FX is the biggest fucking turd. Although, I thought it was cool as hell as a kid. Especially the night level, which I spent all night playing the game to unlock, before I had to take the game back to Blockbuster.
I tried playing the game again on an emulator, once that whole thing started existing. I thought something had to be wrong. There's no way the game is this choppy. And how do I make it full screen? I realized that's just how bad that shit was and went back to playing Unreal.
cyborgnumberblue
Member
Ah, thanks guys!
Interesting developments with that game. I've played the one floating about the internet, it was a lot like Star Fox Command. Glad they decided to go with Star Fox 64 in the long run, but it's a shame the game was almost completed at the time it should have been released.
People hack Yoshi's island for its Super FX 2 when they don't have to, any Super FX chip will work (except the one in the original Star Fox, that one is crap). To quote https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=12530
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______Game______|_______PCB_______|__Rev__|_RAM__|_Battery_|_Conclusion_
Dirt Racer | SHVC-1CA0N5S-01 | GSU-1 | 256K | No | No
Dirt Trax FX | SHVC-1CA0N6S-01 | GSU-1 | 512K | No | Yes [1]
Doom | SHVC-1CB0N7S-01 | GSU-2 | 512K | No | Yes [1]
Star Fox | SHVC-1C0N5S-01 | MARIO | 256K | No | No
Stunt Race FX | SHVC-1CA6B-01 | GSU-1 | 512K | Yes | Yes
Vortex | SHVC-1CA0N5S-01 | GSU-1 | 256K | No | No
Wild Trax | SHVC-1CA6B-01 | GSU-1 | 512K | Yes | Yes
Winter Gold | ??? | GSU-2 | ??? | ??? | ??? (I've heard it works, but it's expensive)
Yoshi's Island | SHVC-1CB5B-01 | GSU-2 | 256K | Yes | No
[1] Game is playable, but it won't save high scores or Pepper coins
Also, upgrading 256K PCB's to 512K isn't hard, and it does make the game playablesixteen-bit
Member
Stunt race prolly
IrishNinja
Member
for real you could get an OG SNES & super everdrive 2 for less than what a lotta scalpers are gonna ask
i know that's not what many want but some of the more hardcore on here would have a lot more fun with that
i know that's not what many want but some of the more hardcore on here would have a lot more fun with that
D.Lo
Member
It really isn't. And I have all of the above and know what I'm doing.
The appeal of these boxes is that they are genuine official products, very nicely done, including the outer box, the unit itself, the interface, the controllers. No quirks, no hiccups.
It's very much like how I like having real games on my shelf instead of pirating them on an everdrive - playing it is the exact same experience, but owning a genuine copy and adding the physical element is probably 75% of the appeal.
If you're looking to play SNES games via hdmi, it is the better and cheaper option imo. A sd2snes won't play the Super FX games so you would still need to buy those.
IrishNinja
Member
i will never understand why a few games get such hype, where that thing plays literally everything else
you can get yoshi's island, star fox, DOOM (...) and stunt racer FX (bleh) without spending too much more if you want. just saying!
SMRPG, Yoshis Island, and Star Fox alone approach the price point of a Super Everdrive (based on recollection I haven't priced them out right now). That's why they get hype imo.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
+Mario RPG + other chip games you cant play on any flash cart at the moment and it's breaking the bank.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Eh, but it's kind the same thing as how some people wouldn't buy the Framemeister because it was fucking worthless for Chrono Cross and like two other games. When you buy some fancy retro hardware, I think there's a reasonable expectation that it just... works. Every time.
cyborgnumberblue
Member
Def not for me, but it's interesting, still.
I wonder if the spinning triforce in the opening of Link to the Past spins at the same speed as the cart version...
IrishNinja
Member
shut up nerds, FX support is a tiny amount and that's what you get for selling those carts in the day anyway
right, person i quoted was talkin bout SD2SNES though
forgot about Mario RPG, but while i'm dumping on stuff: Yoshi's Island is kinda overrated around here
i think that's kind of a dumb expectation, then
you want 100%, you play real carts, real hardware on an SD TV. if you want to play them properly upscaled/fitted to a whole other kind of display, you accept that it's a very niche desire & work with that's out there. even now, we have the OSSC for people on a budget or wanting fewer bells & whistles.
someone's gonna sort out that Rhea & other optical drive SD kits don't play a few korean games that people got exclusively from magazine ads or some shit, and that's gonna bother some folks too, even if it's not an option they really cared about.
we can bemoan these things, or celebrate a well-made flashcart that adds functions & access to like 99%+ of a given library. i'm with the latter.
right, person i quoted was talkin bout SD2SNES though
forgot about Mario RPG, but while i'm dumping on stuff: Yoshi's Island is kinda overrated around here
i think that's kind of a dumb expectation, then
you want 100%, you play real carts, real hardware on an SD TV. if you want to play them properly upscaled/fitted to a whole other kind of display, you accept that it's a very niche desire & work with that's out there. even now, we have the OSSC for people on a budget or wanting fewer bells & whistles.
someone's gonna sort out that Rhea & other optical drive SD kits don't play a few korean games that people got exclusively from magazine ads or some shit, and that's gonna bother some folks too, even if it's not an option they really cared about.
we can bemoan these things, or celebrate a well-made flashcart that adds functions & access to like 99%+ of a given library. i'm with the latter.
I can already tell you that Rhea won't let you play King of Fighters '95 and Ultraman.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Sigh, you reminded me that I don't own 95 still. I bought it on ebay and the seller put the wrong disc in the case and refunded me. It mocks me on my shelf.
RadarScope1
Member
It's gamer mentality. If it's not perfect, it's dogshit. Unless it's free. But then we'll still find something to bitch about, just not as loudly.
What's special about KOF95 that prevents it from working with Phoebe/Rhea?
RadarScope1
Member
The game was completed. They finished it. Nintendo just decided to shelve it rather than release it.