NealMcCauley
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Going to see the 7pm showing tonight. Looking pretty damn forward to it.
Couldn't really understand what Tom Hardy was saying though.
I saw this last night and absolutely loved every second of it. An exhausting film to watch though. I think it probably helped that a few nights before I watched The Lobster, which was 40 minutes shorter, but somehow seemed like it was 2 hours longer.I fell asleep twice watching this yesterday. That's a first. I thought Leo was great but I certainly had issues with the pacing
So, I've been hearing this is pretty good. Any brief thoughts?
Yes, that's definitely why directors use one-take shots...Yep. Everything about this movie was pretentious. From Tom Hardy's pretentious accent to the director's hard on for needless one shot takes that pull you out of the movie. The cinematographer also had a field day with this movie just milking the scenery for landscape shots that add nothing to the story. Then you had DiCaprio (probably my favorite actor) eating a real bison liver for no apparent reason in easily the most pretentious acting performance since Sean Penn's performance in I am Sam. We get it Leo, you want an Oscar.
Hollywood needs to stop taking movies so seriously. We all know its fake. Adding a one shot take isnt going to make me believe that Leo really did fall off the cliff like that. Staring at the camera at the end isnt going to add anything to the movie or the character. WTF are you trying to tell us anyway? No one has any clue because no one knows wtf DiCpario wants other than revenge for his son and wife.
Yep. Everything about this movie was pretentious. From Tom Hardy's pretentious accent to the director's hard on for needless one shot takes that pull you out of the movie. The cinematographer also had a field day with this movie just milking the scenery for landscape shots that add nothing to the story. Then you had DiCaprio (probably my favorite actor) eating a real bison liver for no apparent reason in easily the most pretentious acting performance since Sean Penn's performance in I am Sam. We get it Leo, you want an Oscar.
Hollywood needs to stop taking movies so seriously. We all know its fake. Adding a one shot take isnt going to make me believe that Leo really did fall off the cliff like that. Staring at the camera at the end isnt going to add anything to the movie or the character. WTF are you trying to tell us anyway? No one has any clue because no one knows wtf DiCpario wants other than revenge for his son and wife.
I found the way the actors weren't experiencing real life and were paid to pretend to be 19th century frontiersmen to be pretty bloody pretentious. Walked out and demanded my money back.
Yes, that's definitely why directors use one-take shots...
And what exactly makes an accent "pretentious"? Half the time I see people use the word, it's like they're just throwing the word around because they think it makes their criticisms sound more intelligent
You could almost call it...pretentious
I bolded the second definition because i think thats what applies to pretty much every facet of the movie from the directing to the cinematography, acting and of course ridiculously exaggerated accents.adjective
1.
characterized by assumption of dignity or importance, especially when exaggerated or undeserved:
a pretentious, self-important waiter.
2.
making an exaggerated outward show; ostentatious.
3.
full of pretense or pretension; having no factual basis; false.
Emmanuel Lubezki is a better cinematographer than everyone else out of sheer pretension, clearly
His accent was way too thick. There is no subtlety to it. No one could understand a word he was saying. Here is the definition of Pretentious from dictionary.com.
I am not saying it's a bad film or that I didn't enjoy it. If you pull up the OT for this movie, you will see that I had a lot of nice things to say about it especially the cinematography. I am just sick of Oscar bait and this movie just felt like it was trying too hard.To the hyperbolic poster...
Eh, I think the film could of been shorter and tightened up in places and I wasn't as impressed with Leo's performance as the praise led me to believe it would be. Still thought it was a very good performance but maybe not his best. Left the theater thinking(which I rarely do) going through my head about a few actors I would of rather seen play this part.
Tom Hardy was great IMO. Probably the strongest of the bunch. Not sure I get the hate for the accent at all. Accents can be thick. You should come down here to Louisiana and I will gladly show you what real incoherent accent's are.
I thought the cinematography and the one shot takes had the opposite effect and really added weight and immersion. I probably could of substituted a few environmental shots(or shortened them) for a little more visual story telling and focus on the human aspect but that may be nitpicking. Thought the film was pretty good altogether.
Emmanuel Lubezki is a better cinematographer than everyone else out of sheer pretension, clearly
The movie has pretty cinematography but so what when it has nothing to say? What is the theme of this film? Did Dicaprio do anything in this movie other than endure physical torment to the point of parody? I guess pretty pictures, fluid one-shot camera movements and an actor who spits, convulses, moans, groans, eats a live fish and sleeps inside a horse carcass is laudable enough for 12 oscars? This movie had a paper thin script, a protagonist with no depth or characterization, a revenge story that ends in the most unimaginative and anti climatic way I can think of but it was lensed by a world class cinematographer and the shoot was grueling. So what? This movie is empty as hell
Pretty much all of this criticism is either somewhat objectively wrong or just kinda bizarre.
Most of what you complain about falls mostly or completely on the director and people outside the cinematographer.
Pretty much all of this criticism is either somewhat objectively wrong or just kinda bizarre.
Most of what you complain about falls mostly or completely on the director and people outside the cinematographer.
Objectively wrong? What's "objectively" wrong? That Dicaprio plays a full fleshed out character? That the pretty pictures didn't contextualize theme and meaning? Yes, the direction was self-aware and pretentious. That was my original point. The only aspect of the movie worthy of praise is some of the photography. Certainly not the script, story or thematic substance.
You responded to a post specifically about the cinematography and then in the same paragraph started listing problems of the film that mostly aren't responsibilities of the cinematographer then looped back with a closing statement handwaving away the good cinematography. On the one hand you concede it is quality and also say its shit.
Separating out each individual point, some are just objectively false. For instance no characterization. There absolutely was. Whether it was of high quality or not is more subjective but there was certainly characterization. The semi objective points would be no theme or meaning in the cinematography. There was. Was it the appropriate or optimal way to convey things? Maybe, maybe not.
Yes, other than avenging his son's death and being in love with a dead woman, what was the characterization on display?
Didn''t you know? That's pretentiousWhy can't a film just take moments to be purely audiovisual?
The Grey shit on this movie