Revolution's keyword: "paradigm shift"

Sadly, that's just a way of putting what Nintendo have been going on about for a year now with DS and Revolution into simpler words.
 
It is going to be a shift in the example set by consoles. Sony and MS will see this and demand their next consoles be this way.
 
Mama Smurf said:
Sadly, that's just a way of putting what Nintendo have been going on about for a year now with DS and Revolution into simpler words.
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Nintendo never claimed the DS would be the new way people would handle handhelds. They've always held to their third pillar stance.
 
olimario said:
Nintendo never claimed the DS would be the new way people would handle handhelds. They've always held to their third pillar stance.
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"The Nintendo DS's greatest features are its revolutionary control schemes, such as the touch-sensitive screen and the microphone input," Iwata said during a press conference at CEATEC, a large technology conference taking place here this week. "And its other major feature is the wireless connection. With it, we're going to revolutionize the way that games are played."

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Ninte...wireless+downloading/2100-1043_3-5401982.html
 
bitwise said:
"The Nintendo DS's greatest features are its revolutionary control schemes, such as the touch-sensitive screen and the microphone input," Iwata said during a press conference at CEATEC, a large technology conference taking place here this week. "And its other major feature is the wireless connection. With it, we're going to revolutionize the way that games are played."

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Ninte...wireless+downloading/2100-1043_3-5401982.html
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your tag suits you. :lol
 
bitwise said:
"The Nintendo DS's greatest features are its revolutionary control schemes, such as the touch-sensitive screen and the microphone input," Iwata said during a press conference at CEATEC, a large technology conference taking place here this week. "And its other major feature is the wireless connection. With it, we're going to revolutionize the way that games are played."

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Ninte...wireless+downloading/2100-1043_3-5401982.html
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Wireless is revolutionary for a handheld gaming system. PSP is doing it, too. And the DS's control scheme is revolutionary. I still don't see where he says they're setting an example for handhelds to come.
 
Paradigm Shift: "Radical reconceptualization of nature of the business and the nature of the organization."

Complete change, different products, different way of doing things, new market
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Paradigm Shift: "Radical reconceptualization of nature of the business and the nature of the organization."

Complete change, different products, different way of doing things, new market
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thanks. :)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Paradigm Shift: "Radical reconceptualization of nature of the business and the nature of the organization."

Complete change, different products, different way of doing things, new market
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Sounds like Iwata read The Dilbert Future. I thought buzzwords like this were dead. Is it the 90's again already?
 
Doom_Bringer said:
so Nintendo is going in a totally new direction? Paradigm shifts are very risky.
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Please elaborate.....


Personally i think its Nintendo's last chance to get it right this time around. Open the war chest and spend Iwata, spend hell give away free consoles like MS did if you have to :lol
 
I still think that the "paradigm shift" is going to be a heavy emphasis on a variety of peripherals, and actually supporting them with more than one or two games each.
 
norinrad21 said:
Please elaborate.....


Personally i think its Nintendo's last chance to get it right this time around. Open the war chest and spend Iwata, spend hell give away free consoles like MS did if you have to :lol
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See my other post.
 
Of course, a lot of this depends on their definition of 'paradigm shift'. I've seen that term bandied around plenty of times, and mostly its corporate bullshit.

We'll see.
 
You know, I think people are just thinking too hard about what Nintendo is saying, just like they did when they started hinting at DS. Let's be realistic here.

I imagine it will carry some of the DS ideas over as well as some of the things they did with GameCube, particularly where wireless is concerned. I expect the Revolution will have Wirelss controllers and that they figured out some way to keep the rumble this time while maintaining high battery life.

Its been hinted at through DS that Data Transfer and downloads will be something DS does, I imagine DS will interact with Revolution in some ways in addition to multiplayer and download functions. Yamauchi wants Nintendo to invest and produce anime, movies with DS downloads have been mentioned. Nintendo is moving in an entertainment direction, but gaming is still the focus.

With Wi-Fi and Wireless internet hubs becoming more and more common place, Nintendo's hope for a online experiece that doesn't gouge the user for money or forces them to maintain servers is coming closer to reality. On the entertainment side, its possible that rather than play a part in the struggle between Blue Ray and HD-DVD, they'd opt for streaming media downloads and offer a service for that in anime. Streaming media is seeing great quality now and with Flash memory getting cheaper and cheaper by the day, so storage shouldn't be a big issue. Downloadable games? Probably not, but perhaps new content as well.

Finally, a more mature face on their games and some stronger 3rd party backing. I don't expect Mario, Kirby, Pikachu or Kid Link to change, but Metroid, Zelda, Star Fox, Fire Emblem and new franchises can reach an older audience with a more agressive direction of for these games, that's not really much of a stretch. As far as Mario goes, I think we're going to see more of the brand of humor Mario has seen in his RPGs.

I don't see holograms or batting my hands at a camera rather than using a controller. Touch Screens on the controllers, perhaps. Voice recognition i could see as well, but none of this crazy stuff people keep coming up with.
 
paradigm shift: "Today, we at Nintendo have decided the only way to win the console war is to put anthrax in the ventiliation system at Sony."
 
Doom_Bringer said:
so Nintendo is going in a totally new direction? Paradigm shifts are very risky.
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The original Donkey Kong was a paradigm shift. The original playstation was a paradigm shift. Cell for PS3 is a paradigm shift.
 
-SRV- said:
The original Donkey Kong was a paradigm shift. The original playstation was a paradigm shift. Cell for PS3 is a paradigm shift.
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Cell for PS3 = Reengineering

Original PSX = Paradigm shift, huge gamble for Sony

How is Donkey Kong a paradigm shift? How is any game a paradigm shift?
 
*sigh*

I don't think I'll be able to take more of this for 4 months. Game companies should just shut the fuck up until GDC or E3 or whenever the hell they plan to reveal actual info.
 
Chrono said:
*sigh*

I don't think I'll be able to take more of this for 4 months. Game companies should just shut the fuck up until GDC or E3 or whenever the hell they plan to reveal actual info.
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Amen to that. 100+ threads about every stupid PR hint that says NOTHING and speculation about retarded peripherals. Par-tay.
 
These guys are THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. They are putting thier collective SYNERGIES together to EMPOWER thier consumers.By using INTUITIVE, USER-FRIENDLY INTERFACES the EARLY-ADOPTERS will reap CUTTING EDGE technologies, and create a BUZZ among thier PEER GROUPS. They will still retain thier CORE COMPETENCY and build upon the BRANDING that has been established for decades.

ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE .... BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.


(I should be running a corporation.)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Cell for PS3 = Reengineering

Original PSX = Paradigm shift, huge gamble for Sony

How is Donkey Kong a paradigm shift? How is any game a paradigm shift?
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Cell is a paradigm shift in processing.

If you were of a decent age when DK came out, you would understand. It was a paradigm shift in gameplay.
 
-SRV- said:
Cell is a paradigm shift in processing.

If you were of a decent age when DK came out, you would understand. It was a paradigm shift in gameplay.
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Have any paradigm shifts during your 3 minute load times in KOTOR? :D
 
This is mostly just PR talk. Every time we appraoch a new generation of hardware we start to hear these kinds of buzzwords tossed around.

What would be cool this time would be if the Revolution (or PS3 for that matter) came with built in ethernet (ala Xbox) and a wireless router built in, so you could hook up your system to your broadband connection to play Revolution or PS3 games online, and then connect to the wireless router with your DS or PSP for online gaming as well. It could also be used to enhance the ways that the DS or PSP interact with the consoles. That could open up some interesting possbilities.
 
-SRV- said:
Cell for PS3 is a paradigm shift.
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How can the internal architecture of a console constitute a paradigm shift? All that matters is how it's seen from the consumers standpoint, not what's inside it. Cell is simply a cool marketing name for a processor designed for parallel computing, and it's based on the pre-existing Power architecture, too. It's nothing magical, really.

Back to Nintendo, I think too that this could be a very very risky move: they feel that to widen the market, and for gaining back a leadership position, they have to explore new ways of gaming, maybe making it more mainstream. But they don't know if people will like this: it's very risky.

Sometimes when I hear about Revolution, it remembers me when media overhyped the Segway before it was revealed, with its creator telling that it would have revolutionized the way cities were built, and similar things. Then it was revealed, it's a quite impressive device, but I don't see anyone wanting it so hardly :lol
 
Redbeard said:
I don't think the PS was a paradigm shift in itself, but rather the adoption of cheap, high capacity disc media.
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It could easily be argues that the shift toward 3D gameplay was a major paradigm shift. Sega certinaly didn't see it coming when they built the Saturn to be more of a 2D machine and tacked on 3D capabilites late in it's development cycle.

Also, it was a major rish for Sony, who at the time had no experience in the hardware sector of the game market. There was a lot of skeptism in the industry before the PS launch. And lets not forget, had Nintendo stuck to their deal with Sony and created the CD add-on for the SNES, we may not have ever seen the PS at all. :)
 
ToxicAdam said:
These guys are THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. They are putting thier collective SYNERGIES together to EMPOWER thier consumers.By using INTUITIVE, USER-FRIENDLY INTERFACES the EARLY-ADOPTERS will reap CUTTING EDGE technologies, and create a BUZZ among thier PEER GROUPS. They will still retain thier CORE COMPETENCY and build upon the BRANDING that has been established for decades.

ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE .... BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.


(I should be running a corporation.)
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You just flashed me back to so many corp meetings, and friggin corp retreats, teamwork seminars, etc.... ugh.
 
-SRV- said:
Cell is a paradigm shift in processing.

If you were of a decent age when DK came out, you would understand. It was a paradigm shift in gameplay.
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I was talking about a business/corporate point of view. A paradigm shift involves rethinking the nature of the business and the nature of the organization itself.

Cell is not a paradigm shift, Sony is not going after a new market, they are simply upgrading the hardware. The market is already there and what they are doing with PS3 is nothing radical.

I wouldn't call any software a paradigm shift.

It’s also important to note that even though paradigm shifts are incredibly risky they yield high rewards (if it works out in the end and the product is successful) :)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Cell is not a paradigm shift, Sony is not going after a new market, they are simply upgrading the hardware.
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This is not how you support your statement that Cell is not a paradigm shifts... many paradigm shifts are because a company is choosing to "upgrade" itself in some shape, form or fashion.... and cell from what has been mentioned here seems to be about just a little bit more than upgrading hardware, adding a new CPU, etc.... If Cell itself as it seems to have been defined is more of thinking in terms of distributing processing power, then that's definitely a large change in the way of thinking about how you put together your CPU's... which by definition is a paradigm shift... a change from one way of thinking to another.
 
DarienA said:
This is not how you support your statement that Cell is not a paradigm shifts... many paradigm shifts are because a company is choosing to "upgrade" itself in some shape, form or fashion.... and cell from what has been mentioned here seems to be about just a little bit more than upgrading hardware, adding a new CPU, etc....
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Personally I would call Cell a business process re-engineering rather than a paradigm shift.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
I was talking a business/corporate point of view. A paradigm shift involves rethinking the nature of the business and the nature of the organization itself.

Cell is not a paradigm shift, Sony is not going after a new market, they are simply upgrading the hardware. The market is already there and what they are doing with PS3 is nothing radical.

I wouldn't call any software a paradigm shift.

It’s also important to note that even though paradigm shifts are incredibly risky they yield high rewards (if it works out in the end and the product is successful) :)
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From a business standpoint, I agree with you, but your definition of paradigm shift is very narrow and not how it was originally applied or as it is popularly applied, at least in the US.

Paradigm shift
 
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